Disney- What is the Real Reason?

[ElephantGuts]

So was H.P. Lovecraft, and a LOT of people who lived in the end of 19th century or at the beginning of 20th. Anti-semitism was HARDLY something that magically appeared in Nazi Germany in first half of 20th century.

And no, I'm not saying that it's a reasonable thing to do, to hate people because of their ancestry or skin colour. But if you're going to criticize every person from the past by today's standards... it's not going to work very well.

Read Gormourn above quote, quite frankly I couldn't say it better myself.
It's a bit of an oddity, isn't it... that people feel the need to spend time criticizing famous people
of the past because they don't match up with today's values or ideals?

Just because a lot of people hated Jews back then doesn't make it right, or make them any better people. Well, I'll admit it might make it a bit more excusable. But Jesus, people weren't that backwards a century ago.

 

[Insanum]

Disney Music for teenyboppers is basically:

Tweenies think theyre cool & Xcore, and parents know theyregood role models

Therefore, They suck too everyone else, But a parent doesnt have too worry about what theyre kid is listening too because its disney.

 

[Tyranicus]

Disney is and always has been bullshit.

 

[WorldCritic]

I want to blame Disney, especially for Disney Channel where a lot of crap got their starts.

 

[A random person]

No, Disney made their choice, they have to suffer the consequences.

Really, they've probably just realized that exaggerated teen/tween situations+family friendliness+idols=money.

 

[A random person]

I want to blame Disney, especially for Disney Channel where a lot of crap got their starts.

Gentlemen, Disney Channel is the heart of darkness here. It started out as a place where Disney cartoons aired, but the corruption rose and corrupted Disney itself. It must be destroyed. To arms, men!

 

[NeutralDrow]

Because most of their movies rip off old books gutting them and dumbing them down and in some cases they just find a 20 year old foreign film, add some Elton John music and a couple of funny animals and try to pass it off as original (Aladdin was a rip off of the Tales of the Arabian Nights and Lion King ripped off a Japanese animated film from 20 years before it, Disney is still paying court ordered royalties for that one.)

The story of Aladdin was in One Thousand and One Arabian Nights, just like The Little Mermaid, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and others were based off of European fairy tales. That's not ripping off, that's adaptation.

And considering the plots of Kimba the White Lion and The Lion King are absolutely nothing alike, and the names of the protagonists are entirely coincidental, I'm calling bullshit on that one too.

 

[Sanaj]

Spoiler

So was H.P. Lovecraft, and a LOT of people who lived in the end of 19th century or at the beginning of 20th. Anti-semitism was HARDLY something that magically appeared in Nazi Germany in first half of 20th century.

And no, I'm not saying that it's a reasonable thing to do, to hate people because of their ancestry or skin colour. But if you're going to criticize every person from the past by today's standards... it's not going to work very well.

Read Gormourn above quote, quite frankly I couldn't say it better myself.
It's a bit of an oddity, isn't it... that people feel the need to spend time criticizing famous people
of the past because they don't match up with today's values or ideals?

Just because a lot of people hated Jews back then doesn't make it right, or make them any better people. Well, I'll admit it might make it a bit more excusable. But Jesus, people weren't that backwards a century ago.

I did not mean to imply at all that it makes it right or it makes them better people.
I'm not supportive of racism and I don't want it implied that I'm a racist person.

I was trying to point out that judging events or people from the past is often unfair and biased.
It's similar to a anthropologist being ethnocentric while trying to do an impartial study of a foreign culture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism

 

[The_Deleted]

Disney Movies and Pixar are now run by John Lasseter who has a genuine love for the company going back a long time. Even though they've treated him like shit in the past.
As anyone who watches early Family Guy knows. It was all about the money and was run by money men who just made films by committee.
Lasseter is bringing it back to a studio run by artists. And story comes first.

All the HSM crap and it's ilk are started on Disney TV and is huge business. But you can't blame Lasseter for that.

Personally, I'm quite excited by this new phase in the Disney story. Disney should mean something to kids.

 

[A random person]

I want to blame Disney, especially for Disney Channel where a lot of crap got their starts.

Gentlemen, Disney Channel is the heart of darkness here. It started out as a place where Disney cartoons aired, but the corruption rose and corrupted Disney itself. It must be destroyed. To arms, men!

But then what will happen to the early-mid ninties super hero cartoons? Where will they go?

They will be given a better home, one free of the abuse of High School Musical.

 

[skcseth]

Disney will make movies catering to what they think each generation will like. Unfortunately for this generation, it's complete and total bull, completely lacking any sense of morality or coherent story telling. It's all just a dumb, mini version of the hills or other stupid crap 'adults' watch at primetime on Fox.

 

[Shapsters]

I hate them for spawning the abomination that is miley fucking cyrus.

See, why can't you just answer my question, instead of giving a one lined shitty opinion?

Edit-Do people even read OPs? Or do they see the word Disney and jump right down to the bottom so they can post mindless hate?

 

[MelziGurl]

I'm not a fan of the recent shit like Hannah Montana, Jonas Brothers or HSM to name a few. But I've always like the old Disney movies, I was raised on Disney movies and plan on having a huge collection for my future children...and of course myself. I'm not going to hate something just because I don't like what they are producing.

I don't think the fault can be placed on anyone to be honest.

 

[Marv21]

I think they are trying to appeal to everyone without actually applying satire/comedy and intelligence to many of there movies....however Pixar since Toy Story has been taking the spots for the actual good movies that SHOULD be coming out of Disney!

 

[crudus]

Sure they are doing a great job business wise and are making a mint, but it isn't the same Disney. They are copping out and settling for pop culture. The movies and other products of Disney used to transcend age. Sadly that era is dwindling. A single cartoon cannot bring Disney back to their former glory since there is a good chance they will make a sequel of it.

 

[Sewblon]

Pixar is still doing ok, I don't see why the rest of the company can't get its act together.

 

[Brett Alex]

Because Walt Disney was an anti-semitic Nazi-loving prick.

Unwarranted personal issues and opinions not related to the topic are meant to be checked at the door.

Unwarranted personal issues? Opinions not related to the topic? What? The OP asked a question and I answered it. How's that not related to the topic? And there's nothing personal about a person's recorded actions and opinions.

OPs question refers to recent Disney films ie. after the Lion King, so at most, 15 or so years in the past. 1994, lets say. Disney films/properties since 1994 are enquired about in the topic.

Walt Disney died in 1965.
That is, and my maths isn't perfect, so bear with me, but that is give or take a couple of years, about 3 decades before 1994.

Can you see why your joyful tidbit of a post might be irrelevant? And might in fact, just come across as pent up bile?

Unless it was all a scam he's actually been preserved inside a Dragoon all this time, I would say Walt Disney, the man has next to nothing to do with the OPs question.

If you want to post 1 sentence hate rants, that add nothing to the discussion, at least have a paragraph or so of reasoning, pertinent to the topic, to back it up.

Otherwise, go and make a topic about Walt Disney with the OP:

'Walt Disney was an anti-semitic Nazi-loving prick.
Discuss.'

You'll find it much more enjoyable if thats what you're looking to talk about.

Teel;Deer?
Then pretty much this:

Edit-Do people even read OPs? Or do they see the word Disney and jump right down to the bottom so they can post mindless hate?