DmC looks great, what's with all the hate?

[LazyAza]

I imagine the dmc hate stems from the fact theirs only really been one good entry in the previous series and it was last generation. Many die hard devil may cry fans have been patiently waiting for essentially "the next dmc3" and the new dmc isn't what they wanted. I too am sad that rather than try to do that capcom basically gave up and shipped the franchise over to a western studio instead.

I loved both of Ninja Theory's past games and I am looking forward to checking out new DMC but it's a shame we'll never get to see another incredibly japanese 3rd person character action game that isn't made by Platinum studios. The world needs more Bayonetta's.

 

[Pearwood]

I imagine the dmc hate stems from the fact theirs only really been one good entry in the previous series and it was last generation.

I dunno, 1 was pretty popular and really the only complaint about it is it shows its age. 4 was brilliant and the fanbase is pretty split about their favourite between 3 and 4. Most prefer 3 but there's certainly a big minority who prefer 4.

Speaking of Devil May Cry, did anyone ever say why Nero has so many Vergil references or are they just letting us draw our own conclusions on that one?

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

The new Dante looks like my evil ex boyfriend. I may buy the game just to run him into demons with scythes repeatedly.

I'm not sure I like the look of the gameplay in the new one. The old one reminded me a lot of castlevania this one just looks a bit tunnelish and hand holdy.

 

[Myndnix]

Speaking of Devil May Cry, did anyone ever say why Nero has so many Vergil references or are they just letting us draw our own conclusions on that one?

According to a developer or two, Nero is supposedly Vergil's son. Somehow. They didn't really explain it beyond that.

OT: DmC looks like it plays far too much like Heavenly Sword for my liking. I absolutely loathed Heavenly Sword's clunky as hell gameplay, so I'm dreading this game.

 

[Denamic]

Basically "CHANGE!? OH SWEET JESUS, KILL IT NOW BECAUSE IT MUST BE TERRIBLE BECAUSE ITS DIFFERENT" I guess would sum up most peoples opinions.

Change is good.
Or rather, change can be good.
Changing Dante into... that, is kinda like changing Samus into what she was in Other M.
Why change an absurd badass into a douchebag teenager incapable of wit?
Not only that, but even changing his damn face?
That is not good change.

 

[Razentsu]

It's just because new Dante looks silly. The game is looking very promising.

 

[Vault101]

to be honest the original Dante looked like more of a wanker

personally I find it silly but I can understand not liking change...because its emotional..not logical

much like I can never accept Banjo Kazooie nuts and bolts as anything other than a great big "Fuck you to the fans"

 

[Pearwood]

According to a developer or two, Nero is supposedly Vergil's son. Somehow. They didn't really explain it beyond that.

That's just boring, I'm gonna continue believing Nero is Vergil reincarnated. Don't care if that doesn't make sense, it's not as boring as "oh he's just Vergil's son".

I was under the impression that one of the DMC novels strongly implied that Nero was the result of Virgil having sex with a prostitute. Is that not true?

Ah that Vergil. Such a ladies' man... wait what? That's fucking stupid. Vergil's always been too busy making one liners to have time for whores. Unless maybe it was Bayonetta? Also, see above.

It's just because new Dante looks silly. The game is looking very promising.

Sadly the trailers and gameplay we've seen don't really match up to the standard of the other games. Too few enemies, the first boss is a third of the way through the game rather than at the end of one of the first missions and they seem worryingly proud of their new system that lets them fill the game with the fucking jumping puzzles everyone hates.

And most importantly Dante doesn't summon that little platform that changes colour depending on your weapon under him when he air hikes. I liked that little platform...

 

[Cybylt]

I agree. The platformer parts when Limbo itself is attacking you has great potential. Too bad its connected to a simplified version of DMC's intricate and hard-to-master combat system. Let's just say I hate the added Action Buttom Commands and the GET OVER HERE moves in DMC 4 and they added that in DmC Devil May Cry and Bayonetta.

Well not so much that as they took the combat right out of Lords of Shadow, which is to say it all revolves around pulling enemies to you, or pulling yourself to them.

They turned it from combo/cancel combat with a variety of weapons to floaty light attack/heavy attack nonsense with two stances(Demon and Angel) with Demon your sword turns into an axe and you pull enemies to you, generally hit harder but slower. With Angel you get a scythe and pull yourself towards them more and hit faster but weaker. It's all western hack and slash 101 stuff really.

The funny thing is that to people who aren't familiar with the series, it will bear some semblance because they ripped some of the motions(like stinger, million stab, air rave) for their combat. So when you try to argue it they'll say something like "but he just did the same move" except not really because they did it with one button as opposed to a combination.

Basically, this is to Devil May Cry what Ninja Gaiden 3 is to Ninja Gaiden.

Edit:
Let's not forget this Grade-A back story writing that definitely doesn't ooze with bad fanfic and "original content, do not steal." Not at all

"DmC?s Dante is a young man who has no respect for authority or indeed society in general. Dante knows that he is not human, but also that he is not like the demons that have tormented him throughout his life. Caught between worlds, he feels like an outcast.

Dante grew up in various institutions, orphanages, youth correction facilities and foster homes but these were mostly operated by demons and often resulted in torture and violence. Dante has therefore developed a deep hatred of demons and authority in general but tries to stay incognito. He sides with the little guy, the victims of what he sees as an unfair society."

 

[asdfen]

my 2 cent are no different from other people who have played previous DMC titles.
- I don't care that the character is different. It was different from 3 to 4. What I do have a problem with is the fact the new character is ... I don't have the right word for it plus my mother always told me say nothing if I don't have anything good to say.

- New developer is Ninja Theory ... with track record of an awful title Heavenly Sword and mediocre Enslaved: Odyssey to the West. They have another title under their belt which I haven't played. That is all of their resume. I had little trust and now that I've seen trailers no trust in their abilities to make an action game that wont suck. The most recent video showing gameplay is horrid and so is art design in my humble opinion. The recording gamespot saying that game is in Beta. You ever hear of Platinum Games creators of Bayonetta?Nihilistic Software that made Conan? Rocksteady Studios - Batman? From Software - Ninja Blade? Raven Software - X-Men Origins: Wolverine? Anyone who has at least a single action game that didn't suck balls.

- the fact that on top of it both Capcom and Ninja Theory not only disregarded all player base feedback but openly stated that they do not care does not make me feel any better

Since the game is not out it is impossible to say whatever or not it is any good but so far its aiming for a disaster. What I and most players of DMC are saying wtf are you thinking Capcom... you could have made same old DMC with little to no effort but instead ... we get this