Do games (excluding senseless ones) may increase vocabulary, maturity or intellegence?

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King Kupofried

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Just as anything else can potential lead to learning new things. Movies, Comics, Books, Radio, TV, People in general. Its about how much you actively pursue learning about the things you hear or see.
Of course if you focus on one more than the others then it will inevitably affect your growth more.

Really though I think books are much more likely to have a better impact on your vocabulary and general knowledge.
 

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Xaio30 said:
Not being a native English-speaker, games has been pretty much the only source for me to learn it from. Pokemon got me started. Baldurs Gate II also gave me a few challanges, especially with the riddles. :)
Kinda the same for me, all my game i had when i was a kid were only in english, so to understand them i had to look up a dictionnary. So yeah, it was a motivation to learn english.

Maturity doesnt feel related to games from my POV. But intelligence (as a broad term) and vocabulary are hand in hand with playing/understanding/mastering games.
 

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Must admit, ever since playing AssCreed 2 I've developed a much more focused intrest in reniassance art and architecture. Really must go to Florence at some point and visit Il Duomo.

May have to look for the sneaky skull button entrance too XD
 

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Supreme Commander made me choose my paths in real-life much easier, Dawn of War gave me tons of new biblical words which shouldn't be very useful but as they say, 'Knowledge is Power.'

And online games have made me more mature and careful, not to be a child or dick on the internet.

Like on Korean Maple Story, I played it when I was young and I had to adapt to doing certain things. Saying hello in English would give you a Korean-flaming so instead I had to learn more Korean!

Yes it sounds stupid but I learnt quite a few Korean sayings and words from that game.
 

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Fallout 3 taught me to read...

Not entirely true. But one of the quests introduced me to the idea of Ray Bradbury's There Will Come Soft Rains short story (in The Martian Chronicles) which lead me to the book as a whole.
And I absolutely love it.
There Will Come Soft Rains is my favorite short story (even beating Poe's The Black Cat which I also love dearly).

Mature games can open someone to not only mature subjects, but other mature media. Well written games (or at least games with a big vocabulary) can lead to the discovery of words and put those words in an understandable context.
Having a big vocabulary doesn't lead to being smarter, it just leads to better speech and writing skills as well as comprehension. ^^
Ray Bradbury is amazing. Forgot what game, but there was an allusion to Fahrenheit 451. Then, another one to The Pedestrian. I like Bradbury, and I'd never had read it if not for video games.
Games can teache words, but only in context. If it's poorly written dialogue, it's not good teaching material. games can teach you about yourself *cough extra credits *cough, and they can teach about other things. I've learned things from AC II and Brotherhood that I didn't think I found interesting. Games CAN teach.
 

Moontouched-Moogle

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Maybe not all the time, but in certain situations, yes. For instance, the Professor Layton games may increase your ability to think quickly and creatively, and maybe hone your analytical skill. Not only are the puzzles tricky, but they're also incredibly addictive, so you find yourself constantly wracking your brain to find the solution.

Maturity is probably the least likely to be increased, but a few games may help with this. Take Metal Gear solid 3. If you just go around shooting everyone in the face haphazardly like in your stereotypical FPS, you're going to quickly run out of ammo and find yourself swarmed by angry, well armed guards. After a few deaths, you may learn the value of patience, conservation of resources, timing, stealth, and even pacifism. (Especially considering The Sorrow's boss fight.) That, or you'll just keep dying frustratingly.

Another game that may help with maturity is Shin Megami Tensei. If you just go around killing demons with reckless abandon, you won't get very far. To succeed, you need their help, especially since they are capable of using magic, whereas you are not. And you can't just force them to join you, like in Pokemon. You actually have to converse with them and CONVINCE them to help you, either through negotiation, threats, bribery, or by impressing them. This may cause players to stop and think about what they're doing and what they should say, as well as potentially enriching real life conversation skills. (Although that last bit is unlikely, unless you have need of manipulating the hearts and minds of people. Maybe if you want to be a public speaker? That, or if demons suddenly take over the Earth.)

Also, all the religious, mythological, and theological references and adaptations may get you interested in their real-world counterparts.
 

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Moontouched-Moogle said:
Also, all the religious, mythological, and theological references and adaptations may get you interested in their real-world counterparts.
Age of mythology for me and age of empires definitely :)
 

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Vocabulary, not personally. My ability and willingness to devour any book you put in front of me renders that moot.

However, AoE2 gave me an interest in medieval history, Rome Total War taught me more about European geography then geography class ever did (Even if a few of the names are a couple thousand years out of date.) and various games resulted in my learning mathematics years before they ever came up in school (Taught my self algebra in Grade Six, basic trig a year later, and was able to do some Pre-calc work before hitting High School.)
 

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Vocabulary - well yeah, I kinda learned English majorly in thanks to games. Movies and other things helped but movies had subtitles and didn't require me running to get my dictionary or bothering my parents every time I wondered what the hell the quest dude wants me to do (RPG games like KOTOR 1/2 had a major role in this). I also still pick up a new word from time to time. Like dicktits! :D (but seriously, I do :p )

Maturity - depends. On the whole I can't say, it's a large medium. Are there examples within the medium that work towards it? Hell yeah. Loads of them. Moral choice games are awesome at this because they often tell you what's "ok" and what's "not ok" to do (ME2 does it in an obvious manner but even other moral choice games let you know whether you're being a douchebag or a saint). Now, whether you're smart enough to pick up some of it or not depends largely on you and your upbringing. To me, yeah, there's been several points where gaming was largely responsible for a growth in my maturity and if you count the community around it (Escapist very much included, not kissing ass, stating facts here), it had some really major (positive) effects on how I view some things.

Does that mean I don't take any immaturity from games? Of course not. But I like that side about me and it never contributes to me being a bad person, just a more fun one to a certain crowd via inside jokes and words - like dicktits!

Intelligence - I'd say yeah again. There's constant problem solving and I don't just mean the classic things. Take my English learning through gaming for example. When I was little and didn't know enough words to understand everything, I had to make sense out of entire sentences based on less than complete information. I would also quickly pick up when developers ordered the answers in a certain way (first answer good, second answer neutral, third answer bad, though usually more complicated than that), thus allowing me to pass through certain dialogues the way I wanted to without even fully knowing what I was saying and what was being said to me.

Moreover I've learned to quickly pick up on some developer habits. A scene comes to mind with me and a friend playing in WoW. We were leveling in Stranglethorn Vale and had the quest to kill the stealthing panthers. As we couldn't see them until we were close enough to be attacked, it was supposed to be a (obviously slight) challenge to find the damn things. However, knowing the general area where they hung out in, I actually didn't have any trouble literally pinpointing them down with pretty immaculate precision.

Why? Cause I played enough games (and made enough shitty maps for some games :p ) to know - developers will fill an area with mobs in these situations. If they're stealthing, just look for where there is nothing at a certain (what I'd call 'optimal') distance from the nearest creature (and possibly some bush/tree/etc. they could visually "leap" from for extra surprise element) and the damn thing's gonna be there. Look for creatures you can see then just go/attack right on the point where it's far enough for the stealthing mob to be in order to be spaced out enough.

There's a lot more examples obviously, but yeah, I'd say in general they do increase mental agility and reflexes for some situations and possibly even hand-eye coordination (though fuck me if I can play darts for shit even after 15+ years of gaming). And of course. There are always. Dicktits :D (yeah I get it's silly/immature/whatever, but just felt appropriate as a juxtaposition to the rest of the post and a bit of an ongoing joke :p )
 

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Vrach said:
(though fuck me if I can play darts for shit even after 15+ years of gaming). juxtaposition to the rest of the post and a bit of an ongoing joke :p )
Sorry I keep replying to your guy's stuff just interested but, I think that has to do more with dexterity than hand eye though :p
 

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Tiscolfo said:
Vrach said:
(though fuck me if I can play darts for shit even after 15+ years of gaming). juxtaposition to the rest of the post and a bit of an ongoing joke :p )
Sorry I keep replying to your guy's stuff just interested but, I think that has to do more with dexterity than hand eye though :p
Ya, could be, just found it funny when my mate took the piss out of me a few years back :D

We were playing darts cause the pool tables were busy or sth and after I couldn't hit shit, he just looked at me oddly saying "aren't you gamers supposed to have mad hand-eye coordination skills?!" :p
 

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Vrach said:
Tiscolfo said:
Vrach said:
(though fuck me if I can play darts for shit even after 15+ years of gaming). juxtaposition to the rest of the post and a bit of an ongoing joke :p )
Sorry I keep replying to your guy's stuff just interested but, I think that has to do more with dexterity than hand eye though :p
Ya, could be, just found it funny when my mate took the piss out of me a few years back :D

We were playing darts cause the pool tables were busy or sth and after I couldn't hit shit, he just looked at me oddly saying "aren't you gamers supposed to have mad hand-eye coordination skills?!" :p
Yeah I have trouble throwing Balls and things like that but Im not sure what it is even though i have "good hand eye coordination" laughing stock in dodgeball thats why I only do the first part in the name (which is dodging :p)
 

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Any exposure to a form of entertainment (whether good or bad) could increase you vocabulary again for a good or bad way.
Their is always gonna be a new word or phrase we haven't heard before so yeah I think it will
 

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I think that, in general, video games do increase intelligence if their gameplay mechanics are based off of real-world mechanics and/or history and can therefore teach you things you did not know before.

For example (and I know this will sound silly): Runescape.
Runescape is an excellent example because of it's crafting system. It can teach you a lot of basic things. For example, mining requires a pickaxe, to retrieve ore, which then must be smelted to create a metal bar. Already, you're learning the basics of metallurgy, which might spark your interest in other things later on.

Then, you get on to reading and language skills. Games that are heavily based on text (EX: Morrowind) improve reading over time (like reading speed) and vocabulary.

Games are also very good when it comes to teaching you about history as well. For example (and again this is another bad one), look at Call of Duty: World at War. It gives you, in it's presentation, a basic outline of WW2, the progression of the US and Soviet armies through Europe and the Pacific. I bet a lot of people googled "Stalingrad" or "Peleliu" after playing this game, and increased their knowledge. That's not to count the minor facts in the game, such as "The soviets used a mosin nagant" or "The germans used MP40s", which are minor details, but this is also information you can use. Any info is good info.

Games also increase the speed of which you process information. For example, if you're playing an RTS, there's a lot of math involved in making your decisions (EX: I have 2 unites here, and he has 3 units there, but his 3 units have lower stats, can I take him?)
 

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Metal Gear Solid did buttloads to expand my vocabulary. So much jargon! "Pineapples"? "Five Five-Sixers?" "DARPA?" "MUF?" The fuck?!?!?!
 

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Depends on the game, puzzle games or games with decent puzzles help with problem solving.
While games like Bulletstorm just give you a reason to say. "Ah HELL YES!"
 

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Tiscolfo said:
Vrach said:
Tiscolfo said:
Vrach said:
(though fuck me if I can play darts for shit even after 15+ years of gaming). juxtaposition to the rest of the post and a bit of an ongoing joke :p )
Sorry I keep replying to your guy's stuff just interested but, I think that has to do more with dexterity than hand eye though :p
Ya, could be, just found it funny when my mate took the piss out of me a few years back :D

We were playing darts cause the pool tables were busy or sth and after I couldn't hit shit, he just looked at me oddly saying "aren't you gamers supposed to have mad hand-eye coordination skills?!" :p
Yeah I have trouble throwing Balls and things like that but Im not sure what it is even though i have "good hand eye coordination" laughing stock in dodgeball thats why I only do the first part in the name (which is dodging :p)
Rofl, used to do the same as a kid. Was really untouchable, but catching the ball and subsequently managing to hit someone with it was a rare occurrence :p