Do I deserve to be spat on for saying this to a gay person?

[sketch_zeppelin]

You don't spit on someone for that. And if you do you badly need to have your ass kicked. so no i don't think your friend was out of line.

 

[Arawn.Chernobog]

As long as he'd do the same thing with a straight couple, he didn't deserve it.

As for the Newspapers posting the news as a hate crime... I'm still surprised the newspaper industry exists, I thought all they could do these days is either redirect you to the internet or make up stories as they pointlessly grasp to try and maintain their industry afloat.

Lolconventional-media

 

[TheSKSpecial]

So, never being one to suffer in silence, he gently (according to him) said something alone the lines of "here lads, would you give it a rest? We're trying to watch a movie".

If that's what he really said, then the couple's in the wrong for spitting. However, since what happened is hearsay, he just as well may have said something bigoted or inflammatory to instigate a reaction, and watered it down in telling you the story.

It's all hearsay at this point.

 

[darkonnis]

i would have jammed my thumb firmly in his eye. I don't do brawls and i certainly don't do being spat on. There are certain things it is never acceptable to do, and spitting on someone is one of them. Whether he was right or wrong i wouldn't comment, if the cinema had been empty i'd have made a comment and just moved. But thats just me, if i couldn't move i'd have done what you're friend did and asked politely. If he was sat infront of me, he'd have gotten a size 11 to the jaw for spitting. I don't often agree with violence, but if you can't show someone a basic level of respect then you deserve to have your day ruined.

 

[laol1999]

If your friend was trying to stop them physicly that would be something but asking them to stop seems completely reasonable
it would be the same as asking a straight couple to stop making out because its distracting you in the movies

 

[cobaltfram]

I'm a gay man with a wonderful boyfriend (whom I enjoy making out with a great deal, don't get me wrong), but as others have said: when we make out in a movie theater (which is rarely planned, I will say that), we do so in the back row. As hot as the sight of two men kissing can be (especially, you know, us) that's not something other people want to see, and it's tacky.

So no. Your friend was dealing with some really obnoxious gays (and I am using that term pergoratively, as in selfish homosexuals who believe their orientation allows them to do whatever they please) and your friend was completely in the right. Had me or my boyfriend been there with you, we would have spat right back (I would have, at least. My boyfriend probably would've avoided confrontation -- did I mention I love him ).

All THAT being said: you should just relax about gay people. Mature gay people are the same as other heterosexual people: respectful, courteous, and just want to get through the day without causing fuss, getting spat on, or having their head kicked in.

 

[nofear220]

If that fairy spat on me Id kick him in the head, your friend had every right to politely ask them to stop and not get spat on.

 

[CloakedOne]

they were being unreasonable. I think making out in front of people is obnoxious no matter what the couple situation is. Sorry, fellas, but those two overreacted.

 

[Yoshemo]

Well that guy sounds like a dick =\ If I took my boyfriend to a movie, I wouldn't spend it all making out. Well..not more than a quick kiss. Thats what the back row is for~

 

[chris89300]

Gay or not, you don't go to the cinema to kiss and if you do, you pick a spot where you don't annoy others, they were being jackasses and your friend should have broken the teeth of the guy who spit in his face.

Breaking his teeth wouldn't have been discrimination. Whoever spits in your face needs to be taught a lesson, be they gay, bi or straight.

And if a couple kiss in front of others just to say "we can", the same thing applies, that's rude and they need to be taught a lesson, don't be afraid of being called a homophobe, it's got nothing to do with it.

 

[Evil the White]

It was fine to ask them to stop making out. It doesn't matter if you're straight or gay, in public, it's offputting and disgusting to watch.

 

[Yeslek Ssomllur]

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My friend and I have discussed how we feel about homosexuality, and we generally agreed that we accept it as long as it's not annoying or obnoxious, just like everything else. We don't like gays going all "look at me, I'm so gay!" just as we dislike emos going "look at me, I'm all deep and dark!" or political extremists or whatever.

I'd like to point out that acts of being emo or a political extremist are both wrong and immoral (halfway joking), and being gay is pretty similar to being striaght. It more analogous to people flaunting heterosexuality (e.g. Holy shit that chick is so hot! *dudes nod in agreement*), which people have much less of a problem with, generally. So if you have a big problem with people saying "look at me, I'm so gay!" but are just fine with people going on about so and so actress and banging her brains out, you are actually being intolerant.

As far as my own personal views, people should be able to, and even encouraged, to "flaunt" their homosexuality. It is throwing something uncomfortable in the face of convention that has served to get a lot of gay people beaten, raped, killed, and sometimes all three. I have friends who have been through a lot of shit because of people wanting them to "keep their gayness to their selves," as you suggest. Maybe it's different in Ireland, but I live in the Bible Belt in the American south, and their is too much talk of reinstating lynching to think that intolerance is ever acceptable.

All this being said, rude, slobbery people in movie theatres have no excuse. And the ************ SPAT on him? I hope he got the stuffing beat out of him.

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But one thing was that it always creeped me out to see guys kiss. I don't think I'm really alone on this. It's like the equivalent of watching someone pick their nose. It's just... eew. It's not something I have any control over, it just disturbs me on a fundamental level.

I'm sorry dude. Whether it's all kissing or just same sex kissing or whatever, you're just going to have to get over this. People are gunna smooch.

 

[newfiegirl 110]

Put it this way, if it wasn't 2 guys in front of you, and it was a guy and a girl and them making out would be distracting, and you said the exact same thing, would you deserve to be spat on then? No, of course you fucking wouldn't. Its not about being gay, its about being decent and having respect for other human beings.

I so agree. My first reaction would be to comment "get a room" to any kind of couple. Not a big fan of PDAs. Have no problem with seeing two guys making out though... if that puts me in a minority of straight women, then so be it.

Now if said person, be they male or female spat on me.... I hope they have a dental plan cause they would lose some teeth. Spitting on someone is a form of assault, and an ultra degrading one at that, in my opinion.

 

[Kebabco]

I'm really suprised all the people in this thread being annoyed by making out. If they're moaning as loud as mules while kissing, ok; you should ask them to be quiet, but normal "silent" kissing --> What's the problem???

 

[Dags90]

Well, see, part of it is that my friend probably wouldn't have cared as much and/or ignored them if it was a heterosexual couple (in fact, the friend has probably done far worse things in public with his girlfriend. Not to mention in my other friend's bed. Ick.)

The guy's no angel, but he's a nice person at heart, and I really wouldn't describe him as a 'bigot'. He just hates watching men kiss. As do I. I mean, if it were two straight dudes kissing just for the laugh (i.e. they were just drunk, and not gay) I'd be just as disturbed as two guys who love each other. It's purely the mental image. For some reason.

Is that still bigoted?

Then your friend is being kinda hypocritical and/or prejudiced, yes. I have a feeling with more information, the gay couple would only seem more sympathetic.

 

[Nate Guest]

Your friend was correct in this instance. The media is full of dick heads anyways, just ignore it and tell the story through your point of view.

 

[Corporal Bill]

Well he spat on him.

In my book you can die for that.

It just grosses me the heck out.

 

[Scobie]

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[loremazd]

But one thing was that it always creeped me out to see guys kiss.

Anyway, here's the thing. Recently my friend and his friend went to see Inception (I think), and the cinema was fairly empty, except for these two other guys in front of them. And halfway through the film these two other guys got bored, for whatever reason, and started making out. And my friend was distracted, and grossed out, and couldn't enjoy the film properly. So, never being one to suffer in silence, he gently (according to him) said something alone the lines of "here lads, would you give it a rest? We're trying to watch a movie". And then, one of the guys turned and spat directly into my friend's face.

Listen, its as simple as this. Your personal distaste for seeing men kiss is irrelevent. They have a fundamental RIGHT, and so any disgust you have is entirely YOUR problem and you have no right to intervene and ask them to stop just because YOU can't deal with it. Ask yourself this question: Would you have had a problem if it were a hetrosexual couple in front of you? Would your friend have asked them to stop? Now I happen to think there is a time and a place for making out, and sometimes, regardless of sexuality its just anti-social. If however the answer is "no", and you would not have interrupted them making out if they were straight, then you are simply discriminating against homosexuality. Its as black and white as that. And no...he didn't deserve to be spat on.

That is so completely untrue on every single level. You have no right to -harm- a person for being themselves. You do -not- have the right to do whatever you wish in public and not be critisized for it. The fat guy eating a huge meal has the right to eat it, but no protection from anyone giving him their opinion that he shouldn't. Same with the Old man wearing a speedo at the beach. Expecting for the entire world to act like what is odd or unusual is normal and expected is simply insanity.

Life isn't simple or black and white. You can champion the cause of gay rights in court and think homosexual displays of affection is disgusting. And in the case of PDA, you can sure as hell bet that snogging couples get told to knock it off -all- the time no matter what the gender is because it is a distraction.