Do nice guys really finish last?
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I've been dating a nice guy for the last . . .four years, we're engaged to be married and happy as anyone in a good relationship can be. Yes, he does finish last. Every time.
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The term "come down to her level" means to lower your standards and be as bad and/or demeaning as the other person, poor choice of words that don't work with what your saying. A better way to describe it is you 'left the honeymoon stage' or you 'took her off the pedestal you placed her on' because your not the one being high and mighty for praising her and just raising her up to something that is isn't.
No nice guys don't finish last because if your nice she has no reason to leave it's if you don't really have a personality, such as, your whole parise and talk to 24/7 concept which is actually a very clingy relationship and not all that normal.
Though always calling your GF a princess every time you see her is normal after all you love the girl and if you don't, why'd you even ask her out?
A longer relationship is better then many short ones every single time and anyone who says otherwise is a liar or has never had a genuin long term relatioship.
No nice guys don't finish last because if your nice she has no reason to leave it's if you don't really have a personality, such as, your whole parise and talk to 24/7 concept which is actually a very clingy relationship and not all that normal.
Though always calling your GF a princess every time you see her is normal after all you love the girl and if you don't, why'd you even ask her out?
A longer relationship is better then many short ones every single time and anyone who says otherwise is a liar or has never had a genuin long term relatioship.
to be honest, nice guys finish last... in the sense of getting the girl in the end... yeh in high school girls may go for the more popular guys etc... but when it actually comes down to someone to LIVE with then nice guys come up tops...
nice guys seem to have the longer relationships is what i'm saying, try to find a dick of a guy that has a relationship longer than a year in high school, its hard because of the way they act.
personally i was basically best friends with this girl, she is interesting and we have loads of similar interests (she likes biology so looking up odd mutations in humans was several hours spent together once
) and we ended up going out and still are 2 years later.
nice guys seem to have the longer relationships is what i'm saying, try to find a dick of a guy that has a relationship longer than a year in high school, its hard because of the way they act.
personally i was basically best friends with this girl, she is interesting and we have loads of similar interests (she likes biology so looking up odd mutations in humans was several hours spent together once
) and we ended up going out and still are 2 years later.
Nice guys never win the hundred-yard dash.
However, the race of life is three miles long. It's a question of endurance.
(For those who don't metaphor, the hundred-yard dash is high school.)
However, the race of life is three miles long. It's a question of endurance.
(For those who don't metaphor, the hundred-yard dash is high school.)
In my unsupported claims:Athinira said:
Humans are extremely adaptable, and we haven't really found out how much of us is nature and how much of us is nurture. Why are there so many "nice guys" who can't get girls when it's in their blood to be the dominant providers? Why was there even a feminist movement if women are supposedly more submissive? Why do I fall for competent and slightly dominant girls?
We can't rely on genetics and instincts to answer everything. There's way too much more to it than that. In my opinion it's mostly nurture.
Is nice guy code for spineless loser or something?
Really if you don't have luck with girls its not because you are a nice guy its because you are lacking something. I know plenty of nice guys, myself included and we have never had any trouble getting laid. Trust me girls do like nice guys, they just don't like the sort of idiot that claims he can't get girls because he's a 'nice' guy.
Let me put it this way if you ask ten girls out and they all say no, are they the ones with the problem or is it you? smart money is its something you are doing, yea.
Really if you don't have luck with girls its not because you are a nice guy its because you are lacking something. I know plenty of nice guys, myself included and we have never had any trouble getting laid. Trust me girls do like nice guys, they just don't like the sort of idiot that claims he can't get girls because he's a 'nice' guy.
Let me put it this way if you ask ten girls out and they all say no, are they the ones with the problem or is it you? smart money is its something you are doing, yea.
No, Nice Guys finish last. There's a whole essay that could be written here, and has been multiple times, but the main distinction is that the Nice Guy (capital letters) sucks up to the object of his lust and then gets the idea that she owes him sex because of it. He usually doesn't actually say anything either, he just figures if he sucks up enough, eventually she'll suck OFF. In other words he's just as big of an asshole as the assholes he loses the girl to, in a different way.
Also, I'm almost positive the concept of being "friend-zoned" as a bad thing was invented by these guys. All the girls I've ever been attracted to, I'd much rather be "just friends" with them than reduce things to a binary state of fucking them or never speaking to them again. Maybe I'm just weird for being attracted to women who stimulate me in more ways than just sexually.
Also, I'm almost positive the concept of being "friend-zoned" as a bad thing was invented by these guys. All the girls I've ever been attracted to, I'd much rather be "just friends" with them than reduce things to a binary state of fucking them or never speaking to them again. Maybe I'm just weird for being attracted to women who stimulate me in more ways than just sexually.
Best answer. [/thread]Nieroshai said:
Why exactly was Daddy go bot suspended but not the people blatantly insulting him for his differing views? Way to go, escapist, keep up that biased moderating style.
Being sweet, showing you care, not acting like a jerk definitely helps in a relationship. However, no woman wants to feel as though you're not seeing them like a human, and no one wants a man who acts like a minstrel or a servant. Buy her a rose once in a while on your way home from work and tell her you love her, then say you had a long day and retreat to your man cave. Make her dinner once in a while. Consider what she likes when picking the date locations. Remember what's most important to her and attempt to abide by it. These are the things that help me. Also remember that relationships are a two way street, if she's not making any kind of effort or sacrifice in the relationship and you're making them all, then there's something very wrong.
Also, to a degree, I agree with what Daddy go bot, said. Woman like a man who can act LIKE a man. A man who can lead and take charge at a moments notice. That doesn't mean that relationships aren't about two people making decisions together as equals. It means she usually wants to feel like you can be tenacious in difficult situations, grabbing the bull by the horns. She wants to feel like you can protect her as well and aren't only good for being a doormat. She wants to know you can be a leader. She wants you to have CONFIDENCE in yourself. Confidence is oh so important. Every woman is different, but this remains true for most of them in my experience.
Most importantly, get to know her. Understand who she is and what she values. Never compromise your own values for the sake of pleasing her, but also be willing to adapt if you're willing to go the distance.
Being sweet, showing you care, not acting like a jerk definitely helps in a relationship. However, no woman wants to feel as though you're not seeing them like a human, and no one wants a man who acts like a minstrel or a servant. Buy her a rose once in a while on your way home from work and tell her you love her, then say you had a long day and retreat to your man cave. Make her dinner once in a while. Consider what she likes when picking the date locations. Remember what's most important to her and attempt to abide by it. These are the things that help me. Also remember that relationships are a two way street, if she's not making any kind of effort or sacrifice in the relationship and you're making them all, then there's something very wrong.
Also, to a degree, I agree with what Daddy go bot, said. Woman like a man who can act LIKE a man. A man who can lead and take charge at a moments notice. That doesn't mean that relationships aren't about two people making decisions together as equals. It means she usually wants to feel like you can be tenacious in difficult situations, grabbing the bull by the horns. She wants to feel like you can protect her as well and aren't only good for being a doormat. She wants to know you can be a leader. She wants you to have CONFIDENCE in yourself. Confidence is oh so important. Every woman is different, but this remains true for most of them in my experience.
Most importantly, get to know her. Understand who she is and what she values. Never compromise your own values for the sake of pleasing her, but also be willing to adapt if you're willing to go the distance.
Possibly it has something to do with the fact that Daddy Go Bot was clearly a time traveller from the year 1890, where it's considered progressive to use an open hand to hit your wife.axlryder said:
chowderface said:
He never condoned physical abuse or anything illegal. What's more, I've seen people post far more violent, angry and abusive things on here with zero repercussions. I'm assuming they suspended him (or at least justified doing so) for his caustic attitude, but I'm sure they singled him out specifically because he merely had differing views. I consider it to be biased and unjust, but I barely post on here so I'm relatively indifferent.
The time traveler jab did give me a chuckle though.
Yes, because very few people enjoy being put on a pedestal 24/7, and those who do enjoy that are never in healthy relationships. Though people who treat their significant others like the shit on their shoe also don't make it very far.
Depends in what type of context the saying is used in...
I like to say that nice guys finish last...in the bed room!
I've never had a girlfriend cos im too shy to ask them out but I know a few girls who like me...I just can't afford to be in a relationship right now lol
I like to say that nice guys finish last...in the bed room!
I've never had a girlfriend cos im too shy to ask them out but I know a few girls who like me...I just can't afford to be in a relationship right now lol
EDIT 15: When I say "When I say" what im really saying is get off my nuts snd answer my question without trying to put ur dick in every word like an attorney.
OT: Look Ive seen this a thousand times and this is what ive learned. These so called ass holes that seem to take woman from so called nice guy should get the woman because at least they're not at home bitching on the internet about it and are out there doing stuff. AKA ur so called woman. Am I getting to anyone or am I just pissing on air? On second thought dont bother replying cus I wont read it anyways.
OT: Look Ive seen this a thousand times and this is what ive learned. These so called ass holes that seem to take woman from so called nice guy should get the woman because at least they're not at home bitching on the internet about it and are out there doing stuff. AKA ur so called woman. Am I getting to anyone or am I just pissing on air? On second thought dont bother replying cus I wont read it anyways.
The thing about that saying? It applies to all facets of life, not just relationships, and besides the very specific example of high school (that caustic nightmare of awkward sociality) that saying isn't at all true. The thing about what OP would call "assholes" or "douchebags" is that they have confidence, something which "nice guys" usually don't have. They can also be really clingy, self-concious, cowardly and generally negative and self-absorbed. They also tend to be "nice guys" in order to get some sort of reward, subconsciously or not. Confidence in oneself is what girls that age are looking for, and being athletic definitely doesn't hurt.
High school is almost the opposite of real life. All those silly archetypes like "the jock" or "the nerd" almost apply... thing is, once you walk out of those doors as an adult, ready to start college or university or begin a career, you'll realize that what happens in High School ultimately doesn't matter all that much.
Also, tell your friend to never call anyone "Princess" or the like. Princesses get whatever they want, whether they deserve it or not. It puts everyone in the wrong mindset to have a mature, adult relationship. Not that you can have one of those in High School anyway, but it couldn't hurt to try (any more than not, anyway). Outside of their royal court, Princesses are what we call self-absorbed controlling tarts.
High school is almost the opposite of real life. All those silly archetypes like "the jock" or "the nerd" almost apply... thing is, once you walk out of those doors as an adult, ready to start college or university or begin a career, you'll realize that what happens in High School ultimately doesn't matter all that much.
Also, tell your friend to never call anyone "Princess" or the like. Princesses get whatever they want, whether they deserve it or not. It puts everyone in the wrong mindset to have a mature, adult relationship. Not that you can have one of those in High School anyway, but it couldn't hurt to try (any more than not, anyway). Outside of their royal court, Princesses are what we call self-absorbed controlling tarts.
He was suspended for childish insults towards others, and if you see anyone doing the same I suggest you report them.axlryder said:
This isn't XBL people, behave or go elsewhere.
Damn. You beat me to it.SenorStocks said:
You can be a Nice Guy and still be successful with women as long as you're confident in yourself. Being nice doesn't mean putting women on a pedestal and worshiping them, it means being nice. Women don't like a guy who lets himself be walked all over, even if they're the one that's doing the walking. Be nice and be polite, you don't have to be a douchebag, but don't be pathetic.