Do other countries really think ALL americans are stupid?

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BleedingPride said:
I'm an American and while my country has done some things that I do not agree with I really don't understand why people judge everyone in America to be dumbasses? i hear things like "for those of you who are too american to understand" or "what is it with Americans and.." and it just goes on and on and on and i just dont understand. I'm not that person people seem to think i am just because of my american accent. What's with all the hostility?
Do I think ALL Americans are dumb? No ofcourse not. However it does seem to be a high percentage, and when people I know that are Americans are also saying it, well it gives the stereotype a lot of weight.
 

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the problem with our country is that while we do a lot of very good things for the world, we also do many more bad things. for example we make up a small percentage of the world's global population, and yet we contribute to almost 85% of global waste.

and part of the reason why the world hates us and thinks we're retarded is because we're dumb enough to elect complete idiots into the positions of leaders in this country.

and the reason why high-end technical schools and scientific universities have people from many ther countries is because they study here with the world's best professors and gain the best knowledge, and then take their knowledge back to the their country. Michio Kaku (one of the 100 smartest people alive today, if you don't know who he is then: http://mkaku.org/) has said it himself. and while this spreads knowledge across the world, it doesn't make our own country any less retarded.
 

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I don't think ALL Americans are stupid, but some I've met seemed a bit arrogant when they asked if I could take their picture next to Federation Square or Flinders Street Station. Showing me EXACTLY how to hold and use a camera.
Again, I'm sure not all of you are like this. Probably just the one isolated incident, right?
 

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I better lock the goats up before the troll eats them.

"Conservitism" also allows for the stinking rich to remain stinking rich, and pass it on to their children who don't work at all and live of interest.

Not all rich people have worked hard.

And to me the idea of Universal Health Care system (we have the NHS) is a good sign of government at least doing their job right.

What's the governments job? To look after its people, but to allow them their freedom too. Things like NHS, clean water, clean food and housing should all be no brainers.

How backward must people be to argue AGAINST Universal Health Care. Shouldn't that be a basic human right?



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I think its more that a lot of people dislike America. Mainly because of what the government does, but also tourism and the T.V. that comes out of there doesn't help either.

Personally when I think of America, I think of it as a 12 year old. Very loud, Very immature but still trying to act like a "Big Boy".

That's just the general vibe I get from the country.

But that's not to say all Americans are idiots, its just I think the press focuses on them too much.
You always get a percentage of idiots in every country.
Ok, lets say you were going to die soon, would you not leave all your possessions to your kids? And while the "spoiled rich kid" stereotype is often true, they usually change their attitude when they go into the world on their own. Take Donald Trump for example, he was the son of a rich man but built his company from the ground up trough hard work, and is now a very successful man. And all I'm saying is that there should be a fair flat tax of about 5%, that way everyone could benifit. On a diffent subject, Universal health care is extremely flawed. Competetion is what moves humanity forward, if you have to move forward and advance to beat the other company to earn a higher paycheck, then you'll do it. If you do that then good idea after good idea will take place and you will drive not only your company forward but also the entire market for your product because others will try to beat you. Take for example the AT & T case. In the 60's the United States Goverment ordered AT & T do break up into parts. They did this because they were the only phone company, they had no competeion to drive them forward, and therefore had no reason to advance. If the U. S. goverment had not stopped their monopoly then many of the communication devises that we use today, such as cellphones, wouldn't have been built. And not to mention that if you did implement universal health care then millions of people in the healthcare and medical industries would be fired or quit because goverment salaries aren't as substansial. Hospitals and Emergency Rooms would be like the DMV. Then we would be extremly shorthanded on disease research because of the people that left, therefore many sicknesses wouldnt have vaccines or cures. And how is getting millions of people fired and on the streets freedom, the goverment should not interfere with individual businesses, unless they have a monopoly. In which case it is the goverments duty to push the market forward. Now while I dont agree with things such as outsourceing, I do support most aspects of Conserveitism. And also, yes it is a basic human right and I think the goverment should have a healthcare system to accomodate the unemployed, but it shouldnt rule the market. And in reality most rich people work there fingers to the bone to get to where they are. I agree that a percent of American tourists are to dependent on stereotypes when they travel abroad and other parts of the world may view some of our television as unruly or stupid, but how dare you call us an annoying 12 year old, we have the largest and most well trained army in the world, some of the best scienctists, and the best resources. (I mean we could be completely self sufficient) Give us some credit. Oh and I'm not a troll, I'm a republican that looks out for America's best intrests. And exactly what country are you from?
 

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Nikluz said:
Ok, lets say you were going to die soon, would you not leave all your possessions to your kids? And while the "spoiled rich kid" stereotype is often true, they usually change their attitude when they go into the world on their own. Take Donald Trump for example, he was the son of a rich man but built his company from the ground up trough hard work, and is now a very successful man. And all I'm saying is that there should be a fair flat tax of about 5%, that way everyone could benifit. On a diffent subject, Universal health care is extremely flawed. Competetion is what moves humanity forward, if you have to move forward and advance to beat the other company to earn a higher paycheck, then you'll do it. If you do that then good idea after good idea will take place and you will drive not only your company forward but also the entire market for your product because others will try to beat you. Take for example the AT & T case. In the 60's the United States Goverment ordered AT & T do break up into parts. They did this because they were the only phone company, they had no competeion to drive them forward, and therefore had no reason to advance. If the U. S. goverment had not stopped their monopoly then many of the communication devises that we use today, such as cellphones, wouldn't have been built. And not to mention that if you did implement universal health care then millions of people in the healthcare and medical industries would be fired or quit because goverment salaries aren't as substansial. Hospitals and Emergency Rooms would be like the DMV. Then we would be extremly shorthanded on disease research because of the people that left, therefore many sicknesses wouldnt have vaccines or cures. And how is getting millions of people fired and on the streets freedom, the goverment should not interfere with individual businesses, unless they have a monopoly. In which case it is the goverments duty to push the market forward. Now while I dont agree with things such as outsourceing, I do support most aspects of Conserveitism. And also, yes it is a basic human right and I think the goverment should have a healthcare system to accomodate the unemployed, but it shouldnt rule the market. And in reality most rich people work there fingers to the bone to get to where they are. I agree that a percent of American tourists are to dependent on stereotypes when they travel abroad and other parts of the world may view some of our television as unruly or stupid, but how dare you call us an annoying 12 year old, we have the largest and most well trained army in the world, some of the best scienctists, and the best resources. (I mean we could be completely self sufficient) Give us some credit. Oh and I'm not a troll, I'm a republican that looks out for America's best intrests. And exactly what country are you from?
Yes there are a few people who built there own companies, independent of their parents. But there are also more people who live of their parents interest. I'm not saying they shouldn't inherit, i'm saying they shouldn't be getting off with what is basically a free ride.

NO competition drives for the best balance of quality and price/profit. The companies are always going to be looking to be cutting corners to make their services cheaper. They care about the money, not the consumer. Yes they have to keep consumer at the base minimum of satisfied to keep them coming back and paying.

I'm also not against private hospitals/research etc. I just think that everyone should be entitled to FREE healthcare. That's the governments job right? To protect its people? So why shouldn't that extend from military defence to Universal Health Care.

Now, as to the country I am from. It would be England. We have the NHS. Universal Health Care. The doctors are one of the highest paid jobs in the country, and I know plenty of doctors that prefer working for the NHS over privately funded hospitals.

As for what America has. It doesn't have the largest army in the world (the Chinese greatly outnumber you), and the training for said army is much less than the training the soldiers from England receive.
Probably because England has less people to dispose of in the army, but that is neither here nor there.
Yes it may have the most advanced equipment, but that doesn't equal large or well trained.
As for the scientists, you would notice most of the best are from other countries, which America being the "centre" of the world attracts.
As for resources. I really can't comment. You'd have to define resources. For instance, most fast food meat is imported (because its cheaper), all your oil is imported, etc. Don't delude yourself that you could have the same quality of life as you do now without other countries.
Most countries need the other countries to remain free trade so we can all benefit.

Finally, I should've made it more clear, I don't think that individual Americans are 12 year olds, or that their technology is. But in terms of social maturity it certainly isn't setting a brilliant example. Most likely due to its relative youth as a country in relation to the rest of the world, another good example is Australia whose society is also relatively young.
 

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BleedingPride said:
I'm an American and while my country has done some things that I do not agree with I really don't understand why people judge everyone in America to be dumbasses? i hear things like "for those of you who are too american to understand" or "what is it with Americans and.." and it just goes on and on and on and i just dont understand. I'm not that person people seem to think i am just because of my american accent. What's with all the hostility?
I think only about 80% of Americans are stupid everybody else still have some sort common sense.
 

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I think it has something to do with what I call the trailer park tornado rule. That rule states that when a news camera is around, the biggest idiots and only the biggest idiots are drawn to it like a lodestone. Had a recent event like that happen nearby. There was a shooting a few houses down and the local news showed up swiftly. I stayed inside. My brother asked me why I locked the door, and I told him it was because I didn't want to be their trailer park tornado interviewee. Lo and behold, it comes up on the news later and who are they interviewing? Only the biggest idiot I know. This, among other things(Bush 2, differing outlooks, perceptions of dominance, cultural saturation, et cetera) makes us look like pretty dumb dicks, I'm afraid
 

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I live in the United States and I think all Americans are stupid. The idiots in this country are very loud and very vocal. It makes them seem like they are the majority.
 

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TheDooD said:
BleedingPride said:
I'm an American and while my country has done some things that I do not agree with I really don't understand why people judge everyone in America to be dumbasses? i hear things like "for those of you who are too american to understand" or "what is it with Americans and.." and it just goes on and on and on and i just dont understand. I'm not that person people seem to think i am just because of my american accent. What's with all the hostility?
I think only about 80% of Americans are stupid everybody else still have some sort common sense.
80%? What is your source? If you have none - what purpose do you serve by stating this? Per what metric do you define stupidity? Are you really suggesting that a 1st world country can be properly run if 80% of the people running it are "stupid" (which, I take to mean: lack of aptitude and critical thinking abilities)?

Disclaimer: I know that someone is about to say "well, the US is going to shit, so clearly, the people can't run it." To that, I would respond: the problems that we are facing were caused by poor leadership, greed on part of the banks, and the half-baked social programs instituted by our government falling apart. This isn't social programs vs. no social programs, I'm not getting into _that_ debate. But either way, you can't disagree that what we did create as far as social programs go, that they are falling apart.

The fact that we're doing poorly is mostly the fault of, what people would call, "intelligent" people. The other 80%, the stupid people according to you, are the ones that have kept our country from completely failing. These are the Microsofts, the Apples, the Googles, the Amazons, and the countless hundreds of MILLIONS of skilled people who go to work every day to keep this country alive.

Stop being an ignorant jerk.
 

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Nelson LaQuet said:
TheDooD said:
BleedingPride said:
I'm an American and while my country has done some things that I do not agree with I really don't understand why people judge everyone in America to be dumbasses? i hear things like "for those of you who are too american to understand" or "what is it with Americans and.." and it just goes on and on and on and i just dont understand. I'm not that person people seem to think i am just because of my american accent. What's with all the hostility?
I think only about 80% of Americans are stupid everybody else still have some sort common sense.
80%? What is your source? If you have none - what purpose do you serve by stating this? Per what metric do you define stupidity? Are you really suggesting that a 1st world country can be properly run if 80% of the people running it are "stupid" (which, I take to mean: lack of aptitude and critical thinking abilities)?

Disclaimer: I know that someone is about to say "well, the US is going to shit, so clearly, the people can't run it." To that, I would respond: the problems that we are facing were caused by poor leadership, greed on part of the banks, and the half-baked social programs instituted by our government falling apart. This isn't social programs vs. no social programs, I'm not getting into _that_ debate. But either way, you can't disagree that what we did create as far as social programs go, that they are falling apart.

The fact that we're doing poorly is mostly the fault of, what people would call, "intelligent" people. The other 80%, the stupid people according to you, are the ones that have kept our country from completely failing. These are the Microsofts, the Apples, the Googles, the Amazons, and the countless hundreds of MILLIONS of skilled people who go to work every day to keep this country alive.

Stop being an ignorant jerk.
If you didn't get that I was joking you proved my point.
 

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Its not the people that I dont like about America, its the retarded goverment, moral guardians, warlust and blatant consumerism. In fact, I feel sorry for you guys cos your economy is so right wing that its gonna off itself very soon and then the whole USA will be penniless and then Africa will laugh at you cos YOUR asking THEM for money.
 

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I don't because I don't form my opinions around stereotypes.

The only thing I will comment on is the volume of their speech. They tend to be a bit louder when they talk... I tend to put this down to their energy and enthusiasim.
 

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Zetion said:
Gearhead mk2 said:
Its not the people that I dont like about America, its the retarded goverment, moral guardians, warlust and blatant consumerism. In fact, I feel sorry for you guys cos your economy is so right wing that its gonna off itself very soon and then the whole USA will be penniless and then Africa will laugh at you cos YOUR asking THEM for money.
What the fuck are you trying to convey here?

Try again without the prepubescence.
Sorry for not making that clear. Im saying that form what i can see of the American goverment and economy, its so right-wing and consumerist that sooner or late it will turn self-destructive. For example, I heard once that Obama got a lot of flak for not making health care free, but he was trying to and couldnt because of all the insurance and pharmacutical companies in his way. I live in the UK, so im not sure if this is real, but given the other things I know about the USA and economics, this is bad news if it is true.
 

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Not all Americans are stupid. Just the stupid ones. And the religious right wing extremists.
You have to admit this is a very, very loud minority. Of course it affects how we see your country.
 

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As an American living in Australia, and who has lived in many countries other than the USA, I find that a lot of people tend to generalize all Americans as overweight, loud and dumb (and a lot of the time they automatically think that we have an Alabama accent). I personally am fine with the overall generalization because, that's gonna happen when you're country is like ours. But I really hate it when people push that generalization on to you ALL of the time. I mean, I get it, my country is fairly dumb, I lived there, I know. I don't need a bunch of other people reminding me all the time.
 

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The fact that you say: "my country has done some things that I do not agree with" means that you are better than the general image i have of Americans. However, i don't hate, or have any problem with for that matter, Americans as a whole. I wont speak on behalf of others, but here are my feeling on the matter.

The way America has acted the last 10 years have alienated the rest of the world. The constant scandals about soldiers in Afghanistan and Irak mistreating the local population gives a very negative image of the US, and when i then see americans talking about how they live in the greatest country in the world, about how they have allways occupied the moral highground, it just makes me think "what a bunch of idiots". I could continue complaining, or i could just tell you to go watch boston legal, which i think highlights verious issues that are generally ignored by the American public.