Do people really stoop this low when someone dies?

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I just want to use this opportunity, now that I've thought about it, to think out loud.

When running the scenarios through my head, I would say that, for me personally, if I were to look down to Earth after I die so I can see how people react, I'd rather see people who don't mean much to me be disrespectful in light of my passing than to see those same people act like we were so close so that they can feel a false sense of self-sympathy or to try and get it from others. Some people just seem to want to feel like they've gone through a tragedy so they can feel that they're earned a right to a victim complex.

I'm not saying that anybody should ever be disrespectful to somebody's death, so no, I'm not condone the actions that took place, but I do think that for my own personal death? It means nothing to me to be disrespected. It happens enough in my life, and I've been disrespectful to a lot of other people and things to feel that it's just a form of karma for me, but I hate it when I see people try to cash in on pity by acting like they suffered such a huge loss when it's all just crocodile tears.
 

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chronobreak said:
Man you should've seen the aftermath of September 11 at my school. Everyone was suddenly related to someone who died, and even if they weren't, they were "too emotionally unstable" to attend classes, and went to the auditorium to "pray". Needless to say, I haven't heard so much horsing around and praying at the same time. Dispicable.
I love how the Atheists are suddenly Christian when it means they can get out of class. Funny how extremely disrespectful and offensive that is and it doesn't bother them a bit.

Well, people are selfish and terrible. Sounds like the school you go to is no different than mine where everyone is completely immature and selfish. Not saying that I'm not a very selfish person, but I would never stoop as low as to flat out pretend to be upset so I could skip class. Maybe if I knew the teacher, or something. I hate how people are all like "I'm so glad they died, I hated that person" or something... do you think that it makes you cool? Are you funny? It's pretty disgusting...
 

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I had a good friend of mine die when I was around 18. We held a little memorial in school the following day. His girlfriend was pretty much there whoring for attention, making sure everyone knew how much she was in pain, and what a hideous tragedy this was for her.
I didn't really know that you could somehow "ruin" a situation where people are mourning for someone who died, but apparently it's possible.
Happy ending to the story though, she got over it in a day, and was already fucking another guy by the end of the week.

I guess my point is, yeah, people can stoop pretty damn low, and it's a lose-lose scenario if you try to do anything about it. Best just to avoid these kind of people, if you can.
 

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Lesson in life: there is no low to which people won't sink.Ever.
If there is is an opportunity, no matter how much shame or guilt tries to get to you, you will take it, and sometimes even feel proud after doing it.

That's why masturbation is so proudly admitted to these days (ok not really)
 

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Shurikens and Lightning said:
Yesterday one of my schools most beloved teachers died in a car crash and the school spent most of today talking about her. I never had her as a teacher and wasn't as heartbroken but there were tears flying everywhere today. All day kids were getting free passes to sign the giant poster for her memorial or skip reading to go to the flagpole and pray. Some teachers let kids skip some of there classes as a refuge. Now I didn't do any of those since I never met her and I would feel like an imposter.

I could not get this feeling out of my head that some kids were just doing all of this to skip class or not read. Some kids I think were fake crying or pretending to be sad for attention. It is bothering me a lot how a human can step so low just so they get out of work. Some kids were absolute jerks and laughed when one of our Muslim teachers sung in his native language in honor of her. Some kids blurted out how they are glad that she died. Stupid idiots without a soul who never met this lady.

I just cant believe the human filth in this world.
You can't really know of the other students true feelings or intentions towards the whole situation. However, there are people who are complete gluttons for pity and condolensces. People that jump at the first chance to get all mopey and sad over something that in no way really affects their lives directly. When I was in school we had kids died a few times, and I never understood how so many people would be so upset over someone that they didn't even know. Maybe it's just the sense of losing one of your own, or maybe most people are just more sensitive then I am. Who knows?

As for the kids that are blurting out that they are glad she is dead.... that's just disrespectful and done in bad taste showing signs of their immaturity. Don't concern yourself with others' stupidity.
 

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chronobreak said:
Man you should've seen the aftermath of September 11 at my school. Everyone was suddenly related to someone who died, and even if they weren't, they were "too emotionally unstable" to attend classes, and went to the auditorium to "pray". Needless to say, I haven't heard so much horsing around and praying at the same time. Dispicable.
I was a high school sophomore at the time, and people at my school didn't behave like that at all. I don't know where you people find all your human filth, but in my experience people generally want to be and do whatever they think is good. Even totalitarians, despite being evil in their results, have good intentions.
 

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Yeah, people are assholes. I just do my best to live as best as i can, screw those douches.
 
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p3t3r said:
"i just can't believe the human filth in this world"

i can people are dicks
It takes a bit of a brain stretch, but you can fit it in there.
I can and do believe that many people are asses.
 

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chronobreak said:
Man you should've seen the aftermath of September 11 at my school. Everyone was suddenly related to someone who died, and even if they weren't, they were "too emotionally unstable" to attend classes, and went to the auditorium to "pray". Needless to say, I haven't heard so much horsing around and praying at the same time. Dispicable.
We held a minute of silence in memory of the people who died in that and there were girls in my class actually giggling. Granted, they would do this whenever we held the minute of silence for Remembrance day as well, as none of them could shut their big fucking mouths for more than 10 seconds at a time. I did not get along well with these people...

I think they just have an innate disrespect for anything that is not themselves, they are too far removed from any tragedy that does not directly involve them as they are so self centred. I find the best thing to do is ignore them. Unless of course, something like this happens http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucestershireheadlines/Fury-Poppy-Day-music-Cheltenham/article-1493819-detail/article.html
 

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The world is full of douchebags that make more douchebag kids. Thats why people don't know what morals are anymore.
 

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Shurikens and Lightning said:
Yesterday one of my schools most beloved teachers died in a car crash and the school spent most of today talking about her. I never had her as a teacher and wasn't as heartbroken but there were tears flying everywhere today. All day kids were getting free passes to sign the giant poster for her memorial or skip reading to go to the flagpole and pray. Some teachers let kids skip some of there classes as a refuge. Now I didn't do any of those since I never met her and I would feel like an imposter.

I could not get this feeling out of my head that some kids were just doing all of this to skip class or not read. Some kids I think were fake crying or pretending to be sad for attention. It is bothering me a lot how a human can step so low just so they get out of work. Some kids were absolute jerks and laughed when one of our Muslim teachers sung in his native language in honor of her. Some kids blurted out how they are glad that she died. Stupid idiots without a soul who never met this lady.

I just cant believe the human filth in this world.
Perfect example is that pathetic excuse for a human being, Ted Nugent.
When Darrel "Dimebag" Abbot from Pantera died, he badmouthed Darrel and slandered him, only after he was dead.
Ted Nugent was Dimebag's idol and hero and he'd performed multiple covers of Ted's.
Ted was the reason he got into playing guitar, and after all that, the prick slanders him in death.
Fuck you Ted Nugent!
 

niglett

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get used to it there's nothing you can do about it without stooping to there level or lower.
the world is never gonna be your happy fantasy world where everyone cares about everyone.
 

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*Ahem*

Well, I will point out something. You don't just attend a funeral or service for the person who died, but for the people who are alive that they left behind.

The reason why kids that didn't know a teacher that directly would get excused would be for the benefit of their classmates. Not to mention in a staff-type enviroment like a school odds are that every student has SOME dealings with every teacher or at least sees them around. Even if your not in the class, simply realizing that a guy you see there every day is now dead and won't be there anymore... well that can do more than you think.

People also deal with grief in a lot of ways. That can include horsing around, or simply losing themselves in some form of escapism.

As far as sociology goes, yep... it's something of a "downer" science as is psychology on a lot of levels. But I think that's because a lot of people teaching these classes don't really focus much on the positive acts of humanity.

For example, you can use sociology to be very critical of any group of people, race, creed, or religion. Predict criminal trends, wars, and all kinds of things. A lot of criticism of religion is based on this kind of thing.

If it helps sometime try and think of some of the more positive things people have done. For example along with the violent crusades to The Middle East, there have also been humanitarian crusades based on faith that have gone to places like Africa bringing food, medicine, and education. Someone like Mother Theresa and what she did for the poor in Bombay being a sort of poster child for this kind of thing, however she herself kind of resented her fame because many people have done the same thing for very similar reasons.

Also even when it comes to "Dark Spots" on humanity with wars and such, oftentimes you can drop political correctness from them and see some positive aspects. People have done some pretty incredible things simply for Duty, Honor, or to promote their own society. You look at say the Spanish who landed in The New World and blew the Aztecs away (well prior to Montezuma's revenge), the survivors of which came back with loads of gold. Today modern politically correct ethics present them as being bad guys, but if you stop and think about that from the Spanish perspective, and what they did, and how they did it... well it's pretty incredible. It also wasn't a bad thing if you were an ancient spainard (well before they economy got decimated, partially due to the sudden massive influx of gold from The New World devalueing it for a while as I understand things).
 

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I had a friend that died almost 2 years ago and some asshole was saying that she was a slut and a whore or what not, there is no reason to taunt the dead, or make fun of them for that matter. she was a really good person and i knew her sence she and i where kids. most people tell me im a nice guy and what not, but when i heard him say that, i lost it and punched him in the face, i might have gotten suspended for 3 days for it, but it was worth it, if you ask me.
 

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purplegothchick said:
chronobreak said:
Man you should've seen the aftermath of September 11 at my school. Everyone was suddenly related to someone who died, and even if they weren't, they were "too emotionally unstable" to attend classes, and went to the auditorium to "pray". Needless to say, I haven't heard so much horsing around and praying at the same time. Dispicable.
We held a minute of silence in memory of the people who died in that and there were girls in my class actually giggling. Granted, they would do this whenever we held the minute of silence for Remembrance day as well, as none of them could shut their big fucking mouths for more than 10 seconds at a time. I did not get along well with these people...

I think they just have an innate disrespect for anything that is not themselves, they are too far removed from any tragedy that does not directly involve them as they are so self centred. I find the best thing to do is ignore them. Unless of course, something like this happens http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucestershireheadlines/Fury-Poppy-Day-music-Cheltenham/article-1493819-detail/article.html
My school gave up the Day of Remembrance moment of silence a long time ago. We get it. A bunch of people died in an attack. Now we're killing a lot of people and getting killed a lot in retaliation. People die and the world goes on. There's no point on trying to hit pause just because we're not used to people dying in our country.

Douk said:
People die, whether or not you reap the benefits is up to you.
Right with you there.
 

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Daedalus1942 said:
Shurikens and Lightning said:
Yesterday one of my schools most beloved teachers died in a car crash and the school spent most of today talking about her. I never had her as a teacher and wasn't as heartbroken but there were tears flying everywhere today. All day kids were getting free passes to sign the giant poster for her memorial or skip reading to go to the flagpole and pray. Some teachers let kids skip some of there classes as a refuge. Now I didn't do any of those since I never met her and I would feel like an imposter.

I could not get this feeling out of my head that some kids were just doing all of this to skip class or not read. Some kids I think were fake crying or pretending to be sad for attention. It is bothering me a lot how a human can step so low just so they get out of work. Some kids were absolute jerks and laughed when one of our Muslim teachers sung in his native language in honor of her. Some kids blurted out how they are glad that she died. Stupid idiots without a soul who never met this lady.

I just cant believe the human filth in this world.
Perfect example is that pathetic excuse for a human being, Ted Nugent.
When Darrel "Dimebag" Abbot from Pantera died, he badmouthed Darrel and slandered him, only after he was dead.
Ted Nugent was Dimebag's idol and hero and he'd performed multiple covers of Ted's.
Ted was the reason he got into playing guitar, and after all that, the prick slanders him in death.
Fuck you Ted Nugent!
don't dis on the Nugent! Dimebag lived his life on his cote tale.

anyways what dose Dimebag care. he's dead.
 

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Shurikens and Lightning said:
or skip reading to go to the flagpole and pray.
I hope you go to a religious school because otherwise they're breaking the law.