Do we really WANT to know what Tali looks like (light spoilers)?

[II2]

In before someone else ninja's this:

 

[CptRumGuy]

Of course I want to see what Tali looks like. As a side note, you do realize the Quarian homeworld is overwhelmed by geth right? Just because it's a confirmed destination doesn't mean that we will learn anything new about Quarians because of it. Also, they would still have to wear their suits, even on their home planet. And even if they didn't before, they will once you show up and ruin it.

My understanding is that they were originally able to live on planets other than their homeworld despite minor immunologic issues, but that these issues became much more pronounced after they were removed from their native ecosystem and lived in comparatively sterile spaceship environments for an extended period of time. If the homeworld's biosphere is intact, it's not unreasonable to assume that they would be able to return to a non-suited state even on other planets, after spending some time there.

Nah, Tali even said at one point that if they did retake their homeworld, it would take generations of bioengineering for them to live without suits again.

 

[uc.asc]

I concur. I don't really understand why people seem to have this need for someone else to show them what Tali looks like.

I see it as a lose/lose for Bioware if they show their design for her. If they had done it for ME1, meh. But now that people have spent WAY too much time thinking about what she should look like the shit storm would be a Category 11.

Now that I think about it the uproar from people if they did would be hilarious. Some screaming about how thats not what she is supposed to look like and others saying she looks too human or too alien. I would have a good old fashioned roflcopter time.

Here is a case study for a university with too much money and time on their hands. Poll Mass Effect fans on how much time they spent reading/being read to, verses watching TV/playing video games when they were growing up. Then compare those numbers with whether or not people want Bioware to design and show a face for Tali. I think that if you read or were read to as a child you would be less likely to want to see the Bioware design as you are better at imagining your own version of it.

Bioware don't seem to be too concerned about causing uproars

Also, I have never had television reception or cable, spent a great deal of time reading when I was young, and am in the want to see camp. Not that this is statistically meaningful, just throwing it out there.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

I'm curious, but I think you hit it on the head with the "hidden unobtainable mystique"- I find that to be an excellent design choice.
I don't think we'll ever get a peek, and if we do a small one right at the end, but that doesn't detract from the character, in my opinion.

While I love Tali's character, I don't think she'd be half as likable without the mystery surrounding her.


Off topic- I always felt more sympathetic to the geth than the Quarians- why does everyone treat them as the bad guys?
The heretics I understand, but not the home fleet.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

In before someone else ninja's this:

I literally laughed out loud.
Why is this so funny?

 

[uc.asc]

Of course I want to see what Tali looks like. As a side note, you do realize the Quarian homeworld is overwhelmed by geth right? Just because it's a confirmed destination doesn't mean that we will learn anything new about Quarians because of it. Also, they would still have to wear their suits, even on their home planet. And even if they didn't before, they will once you show up and ruin it.

My understanding is that they were originally able to live on planets other than their homeworld despite minor immunologic issues, but that these issues became much more pronounced after they were removed from their native ecosystem and lived in comparatively sterile spaceship environments for an extended period of time. If the homeworld's biosphere is intact, it's not unreasonable to assume that they would be able to return to a non-suited state even on other planets, after spending some time there.

Nah, Tali even said at one point that if they did retake their homeworld, it would take generations of bioengineering for them to live without suits again.

Hum. Do you remember if she was specific as to whether she meant engineering themselves, or rebuilding the environment? One of the ads on illium mentioned that it was possible, with some effort (and a low success rate), for quarians to manage without the suit, so the situation can't be all that horrible.

In any case, that means that the homeworld being a location in ME3 won't be the cause of a suit-related uproar.

 

[Android2137]

I don't want to see. I like imagination. The instant they show what she looks like, everyone's going to be disappointed. If she has human facial features, those who imagined her beautiful will complain that she was better looking in their heads and those who are more imaginative so to speak will complain that once again there is another human-like race and the galaxy isn't as diverse as it should be.

If she has very alien inhuman facial features, those who are into diverse sci-fi will... actually likely have no complaints. Those who imagined her beautiful might find her repulsive now... or they might just develop a new fetish... I mean turian facial features are closer to bug than human, and yet somehow, Garrus has tons and tons of fangirls (myself included).

Though, for the record, if Tali ends up with humanoid facial features, then I'm expecting something similar to a desert mammal like a mouse or something. In Mass Effect, we've seen insectoids (rachni), amphibians (salarians), dinosaurs (turians and krogan), jellyfish, elephants (elcor), desert amphibian/lizard (drell), worm/lizard people (vorcha), birds (raloi mentioned in Cerberus Daily News) and er... scaly amazons (asari). No clue what volus,batarian, and yahg are, but my point is there is only one mammal-like species in that list, so if the quarians turn out mammal, it might balance things out nicely.

And if they don't and Tali does not have humanoid facial features? Then my money is on a Zoidberg mouth! Cthulhu fhtagn, ya little boshtets!

 

[Blindswordmaster]

Practical: Bioware's not going to make Tali ugly or too strange looking, they won't fuck with their bread and butter.
Romantic: No matter what she looks like, she's still Tali, and I like Tali.

 

[CptRumGuy]

Of course I want to see what Tali looks like. As a side note, you do realize the Quarian homeworld is overwhelmed by geth right? Just because it's a confirmed destination doesn't mean that we will learn anything new about Quarians because of it. Also, they would still have to wear their suits, even on their home planet. And even if they didn't before, they will once you show up and ruin it.

My understanding is that they were originally able to live on planets other than their homeworld despite minor immunologic issues, but that these issues became much more pronounced after they were removed from their native ecosystem and lived in comparatively sterile spaceship environments for an extended period of time. If the homeworld's biosphere is intact, it's not unreasonable to assume that they would be able to return to a non-suited state even on other planets, after spending some time there.

Nah, Tali even said at one point that if they did retake their homeworld, it would take generations of bioengineering for them to live without suits again.

Hum. Do you remember if she was specific as to whether she meant engineering themselves, or rebuilding the environment? One of the ads on illium mentioned that it was possible, with some effort (and a low success rate), for quarians to manage without the suit, so the situation can't be all that horrible.

In any case, that means that the homeworld being a location in ME3 won't be the cause of a suit-related uproar.

Well, Illium isn't exactly an "honest" place is it? But yeah, she was referring to the Quarian's own bodies. So I guess if we visit the Quarian homeworld it will have more to do with contacting the Geth than anything else. Or maybe the Quarians will be engaged with all out war with the Geth? I dunno.

 

[Ladette]

Off topic- I always felt more sympathetic to the geth than the Quarians- why does everyone treat them as the bad guys?
The heretics I understand, but not the home fleet.

To my knowledge, the Geth have been killing anyone who tries to make contact with them. And the only people who know that there's a difference between Heretics and Regular Geth are Shepard and his crew.

 

[Korten12]

If were to start from a "love her for her brains" position, then we could reach the conclusion that people like tali despite not knowing what she looks like, rather than because they have imagined her as being particularly attractive; and that therefore they may forgive what may be considered a suboptimal appearance.

In my opinion, a large part of the reason tali is so well-liked isn't that her appearances are mysterious, but that she is one of a very few (squadmembers who wasn't a professional badass before being recruited; and that consequently, her character has more depth -- she had a life and personal considerations outside of the the current mission even before the 'loyalty mission' mechanic was introduced. In short, she feels more real than the other characters.

I want to know what the quarians look like, though since tali has never been my romantic interest I may have less invested in the character than others. Mostly I'm hoping they look like an artist's concept I saw one time.

EDIT: Google image search is fast and helpful and OH GOD MY EYES. Let's see if embed works.

[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/641/talicz.jpg/]

If she looked like that all would be fine.

 

[uc.asc]

Of course I want to see what Tali looks like. As a side note, you do realize the Quarian homeworld is overwhelmed by geth right? Just because it's a confirmed destination doesn't mean that we will learn anything new about Quarians because of it. Also, they would still have to wear their suits, even on their home planet. And even if they didn't before, they will once you show up and ruin it.

My understanding is that they were originally able to live on planets other than their homeworld despite minor immunologic issues, but that these issues became much more pronounced after they were removed from their native ecosystem and lived in comparatively sterile spaceship environments for an extended period of time. If the homeworld's biosphere is intact, it's not unreasonable to assume that they would be able to return to a non-suited state even on other planets, after spending some time there.

Nah, Tali even said at one point that if they did retake their homeworld, it would take generations of bioengineering for them to live without suits again.

Hum. Do you remember if she was specific as to whether she meant engineering themselves, or rebuilding the environment? One of the ads on illium mentioned that it was possible, with some effort (and a low success rate), for quarians to manage without the suit, so the situation can't be all that horrible.

In any case, that means that the homeworld being a location in ME3 won't be the cause of a suit-related uproar.

Well, Illium isn't exactly an "honest" place is it? But yeah, she was referring to the Quarian's own bodies. So I guess if we visit the Quarian homeworld it will have more to do with contacting the Geth than anything else. Or maybe the Quarians will be engaged with all out war with the Geth? I dunno.

Oke.

Yeah, pretty interested to see how the geth situation works out. Really hoping that it's possible to work out a peace deal; I'm going to be really upset if it comes down to destroying/subverting the geth OR screwing over the quarians in a big way; although I have a soft spot for the quarians, I feel that letting them kill/subvert the geth would be the greater evil.

 

[spartan231490]

Of course I want to see what Tali looks like. As a side note, you do realize the Quarian homeworld is overwhelmed by geth right? Just because it's a confirmed destination doesn't mean that we will learn anything new about Quarians because of it. Also, they would still have to wear their suits, even on their home planet. And even if they didn't before, they will once you show up and ruin it.

My understanding is that they were originally able to live on planets other than their homeworld despite minor immunologic issues, but that these issues became much more pronounced after they were removed from their native ecosystem and lived in comparatively sterile spaceship environments for an extended period of time. If the homeworld's biosphere is intact, it's not unreasonable to assume that they would be able to return to a non-suited state even on other planets, after spending some time there.

It would take a long time. It's gotten so bad that they can't even sink-up the air in two suits without both of them getting sick for a while(I think Tali said a month). To sink up all of their air, and then expose everyone to all the antigens on an entire planet, even one as benign as their homeworld, would take a while. I think one of the conversation options with Tali in ME 2 talks about this and I think she says it would take generations. I could be wrong, but regardless it should still take many years. but yes, it's definitely possible, and more so on their home planet than another.

 

[FFHAuthor]

I've seen a few images of Quarians that have them with semi-Reticulan features, large black almond shaped eyes and humanoid features. Something more akin to 'sexy alien' kind of thing, predominantly human with the eyes being the only real difference along with skin color.

 

[DirgeNovak]

The big problem I have with this goes THUS: Shepard, you know, the guy whom the player is supposed to BE while playing the game, knows what Tali looks like (if you fucked her that is). So why hide it from us? They should have shown her face to us in ME2, if only as a reward for romancing her. But I'm pretty sure BW will screw us over on that front and cop out again. It's like they don't want to make their 3D artists work sometimes.

 

[soldier9501]

No matter what she looks like, she's still Tali, and I like Tali.

That. Enough said.

But, I don't think this just revolves around Tali. We have an entire race of people we've interacted with, including a number of memorable characters: Kal'Reegar and Daro'Xen, to name a few.

I think everyone has contemplated what the quarians or volus look like without their environment suits. We have an obvious connection to Tali, which is going to act as a gateway piece of information to the rest of the quarian race.

 

[CptRumGuy]

Of course I want to see what Tali looks like. As a side note, you do realize the Quarian homeworld is overwhelmed by geth right? Just because it's a confirmed destination doesn't mean that we will learn anything new about Quarians because of it. Also, they would still have to wear their suits, even on their home planet. And even if they didn't before, they will once you show up and ruin it.

My understanding is that they were originally able to live on planets other than their homeworld despite minor immunologic issues, but that these issues became much more pronounced after they were removed from their native ecosystem and lived in comparatively sterile spaceship environments for an extended period of time. If the homeworld's biosphere is intact, it's not unreasonable to assume that they would be able to return to a non-suited state even on other planets, after spending some time there.

Nah, Tali even said at one point that if they did retake their homeworld, it would take generations of bioengineering for them to live without suits again.

Hum. Do you remember if she was specific as to whether she meant engineering themselves, or rebuilding the environment? One of the ads on illium mentioned that it was possible, with some effort (and a low success rate), for quarians to manage without the suit, so the situation can't be all that horrible.

In any case, that means that the homeworld being a location in ME3 won't be the cause of a suit-related uproar.

Well, Illium isn't exactly an "honest" place is it? But yeah, she was referring to the Quarian's own bodies. So I guess if we visit the Quarian homeworld it will have more to do with contacting the Geth than anything else. Or maybe the Quarians will be engaged with all out war with the Geth? I dunno.

Oke.

Yeah, pretty interested to see how the geth situation works out. Really hoping that it's possible to work out a peace deal; I'm going to be really upset if it comes down to destroying/subverting the geth OR screwing over the quarians in a big way; although I have a soft spot for the quarians, I feel that letting them kill/subvert the geth would be the greater evil.

OR alternatively-alternatively an option to kill both races, muahahaha

Although I would only do that in my playthrough with Pillock Shepard, who's sole purpose is to fuck up as much as possible (without failing completely. I let only 2 squadmates live in the suicide mission).

But yes, I do agree that there should be a peace option, but it should be the more difficult option to obtain.

 

[Veret]

This, weirdly enough, is actually a very relevant point. Can you honestly look at Tali and not think Bioware had sex appeal in mind when they designed her? The amount of skin a character is showing actually has very little to do with their attractiveness, as evidenced by the fact that the least sexualized[footnote]In my opinion, and excluding Shepard herself.[/footnote] female in ME2 is naked to the waist. Removing Tali's mask would take away a lot of mystery, but not modesty.

Oh, and:

Rumors has it, that we will finally see what the Tech-savy race looks like in ME3, as their homeplanet has been confirmed as a visitable location in the game.

The Quarian homeworld is occupied by Geth, so...no. Maybe we'll see them, but not there.

 

[Jake0fTrades]

Wouldn't it be better to let our imagination create an image of Tali, than to see her and feel some modest disappointment in her appearance?