Do you believe in Aliens?
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Yes they almost definitely exist because of statistical possibility, and no, I don't think they have visited us.
Couple of theories:
1.) Yes, aliens exist, but they do not resemble the traditional alien archetype (Xenomorphs, Predators, Grey men, etc.). Rather they closely resemble humans or might even look like humans that have evolved to a higher species (or have cybernetic implants/improvements).
2.) No. In fact, the government cover-up of aliens is actually a government facade to convince us that aliens exist and that the government is "trying" to cover it up. In reality, all the spaceships and alien phenomena is all the government's experimentation on secret advanced technology.
3.) Whose to say that we, the human race, aren't the aliens? If you look at all the species in the world, none have our high intelligence, individual thought processing, and development of culture, speech, and religion. All animals "fear" us, we have not animal instinct, and we do more harm to the environment than help. Time and time again, it has been proven that if humans cease to exist, the whole world, populated with only animals, would remain intact.
1.) Yes, aliens exist, but they do not resemble the traditional alien archetype (Xenomorphs, Predators, Grey men, etc.). Rather they closely resemble humans or might even look like humans that have evolved to a higher species (or have cybernetic implants/improvements).
2.) No. In fact, the government cover-up of aliens is actually a government facade to convince us that aliens exist and that the government is "trying" to cover it up. In reality, all the spaceships and alien phenomena is all the government's experimentation on secret advanced technology.
3.) Whose to say that we, the human race, aren't the aliens? If you look at all the species in the world, none have our high intelligence, individual thought processing, and development of culture, speech, and religion. All animals "fear" us, we have not animal instinct, and we do more harm to the environment than help. Time and time again, it has been proven that if humans cease to exist, the whole world, populated with only animals, would remain intact.
The universe is unimaginably huge.
That is, literally unimaginably huge.
It is so immense that a human being could never even hope to comprehend its sheer scale.
There are innumerable stars, each likely to have multiple planets in orbit.
To think we're alone is ludicrous.
Arrogant even.
And no, we've not been visited.
As I said, the universe is fucking big.
Our planet is like a grain of sand in a desert.
And even that is grossly understating the vastness of space.
Why would they come to our particular grain?
That is, literally unimaginably huge.
It is so immense that a human being could never even hope to comprehend its sheer scale.
There are innumerable stars, each likely to have multiple planets in orbit.
To think we're alone is ludicrous.
Arrogant even.
And no, we've not been visited.
As I said, the universe is fucking big.
Our planet is like a grain of sand in a desert.
And even that is grossly understating the vastness of space.
Why would they come to our particular grain?
Are there aliens? Almost certainly.
Have they visited Earth? I highly doubt it.
Although if they did they pretty much HAVE to know how to travel faster than light.
The odds of anyone visiting us is low even then, but without it the kind of ridiculous things you'd have to do to travel even a few light-years would mean you'd want to be VERY certain you'd want to go to your chosen destination.
Aside from which, any starship using conventional physics that we already understand on earth would have such a ludicrously high power output that it would be easy to spot even if it was only at the outer edges of the solar system.
Stealth in space is in fact very difficult. So if we've had visitors without it being obvious, they know something very significant about physics that we don't.
Have they visited Earth? I highly doubt it.
Although if they did they pretty much HAVE to know how to travel faster than light.
The odds of anyone visiting us is low even then, but without it the kind of ridiculous things you'd have to do to travel even a few light-years would mean you'd want to be VERY certain you'd want to go to your chosen destination.
Aside from which, any starship using conventional physics that we already understand on earth would have such a ludicrously high power output that it would be easy to spot even if it was only at the outer edges of the solar system.
Stealth in space is in fact very difficult. So if we've had visitors without it being obvious, they know something very significant about physics that we don't.
I love pictures of space. It's just so awe inspiring.Snotnarok said:Of course there's alien life out there, whether or not it's advanced or not is another question, I wouldn't know to begin with that. There is life out there there's no doubt about that, to think there isn't life out there because of odds, well the odds are against your thought.
=Life is a rare occurrence, and needs special conditions it couldn't happen.
-Actually no life does not need special treatment, we've found life living on radioactive rods and next to volcanic vents spewing out methane at 300F. Life is VERY durable and hard to kill, it will evolve and find and live.
Even if life was rare, there's billions/trillions of stars in our galaxy alone with worlds floating around them, that's just our galaxy not counting the vast uncountable amount outside our own that are even bigger than our 120k lightyear long milkyway.
These are galaxies, there's a lot of them meaning even if there was a .01% chance of life to be on a planet found, there'd be a vast abundance of life.
Have they visited earth?
That's quite the journey to meet with a very insignificant race, I imagine if they're able to cross the galaxy the most they'd do is give a glance/look through the senors as they went by. Even then? Why bother we're not advanced enough to visit. If they DID visit it'd be to steal some water and move along.
Anyway, I'm certain there is other life in the universe. Somewhere. Now, what form that life takes is a whole other question. We've been looking for signs of life on Mars in the form of bacteria. I'd say there are planets out there with life, it just might be a single celled organism. Though, I do think there can be other intelligent life. I'm certain of it, actually.
Now, for the other question. I don't know. There's no way I can say that an alien life form has never been to Earth. Ever. At any point in time. There's no way I can be certain what level of technology they might have. We constantly use our own technology as a gauge, but if an alien lifeform could reach Earth, they obviously have technology far beyond anything we know. Who knows just what that means. So, I'm skeptical about them visiting earth or not. I will say that I don't think aliens have made contact.
One thing that always surprises me that people seem to think alien life would have to be more advanced than us. I think that with the sheer number of stars and planets out there, there are probably aliens who have significantly more advanced technology. Others with technology on roughly the same level as our own. Others in what we might call Medieval times. And still others in much more primitive states of development.
Someone earlier pointed out that we have yet to detect any signals from other species. Considering the vast distances we're talking about, that's not surprising. Humanity has only really been transmitting information for less than 100 years. Do you think any other race has picked up our transmissions? Even if they did, do you think they would even realize it? Who says we haven't received transmissions without realizing it? We might not be looking in the right places. Maybe we could be watching alien soap operas if we tuned in to the right frequency!
Yes and No!
And by the way, why does everybody think that aliens have to visit us?
I really believe that there are aliens, but odds say that these aliens are cockroaches on a planet 10 billion lightyears away.
And when it has to be an intelligent lifeform to be an alien, then it's probably 10 fiflogazilion lightyears away. And who said that they HAVE to be better developed then we are. Even if they are intelligent they may be just discovering fire, or hiting themselves with stones.
And by the way, why does everybody think that aliens have to visit us?
I really believe that there are aliens, but odds say that these aliens are cockroaches on a planet 10 billion lightyears away.
And when it has to be an intelligent lifeform to be an alien, then it's probably 10 fiflogazilion lightyears away. And who said that they HAVE to be better developed then we are. Even if they are intelligent they may be just discovering fire, or hiting themselves with stones.
You know, even saying that you think the aliens would care enough to destroy us speaks of a supreme kind of arrogance.spartan231490 said:
I'm reluctant to either ascent to or deny the possibility of aliens because we still don't have a good idea of how often biogenesis occurs in nature. Still, the universe is disgustingly huge, so I'm inclined to answer in the affirmative.
As for aliens visiting earth, I highly doubt it. The same thing which makes me say that aliens probably exist, the utter hugeness of space, is the same thing which makes the chance of contact utterly miniscule.
Edit: So apparently this is my 666th post. Um...Hail Satan?
Well, we don't know much about physics. We're still trying to figure it out. We've found that once you get small enough, physics, as we understand it, just breaks down. We're probably just barely scratching the surface. Who's to say that intergalactic travel is impossible? Maybe we just need to make the proper discoveries and develop the right technology? Doubt that will happen in my life, but it would be cool.CrystalShadow said:
In other news, I will gladly volunteer for cryogenic freezing until Star Trek or Star Wars. Whichever comes first.
They get all of our transmissions, they probably think our galaxy is full of actual Ridley Scott Aliens and Predators and Giant Spiders and Godzilla and Ron Weasley
There is probably big sign outside the galaxy that says 'Quarantine Zone Do Not Enter.'
I wouldn't blame them.
There is probably big sign outside the galaxy that says 'Quarantine Zone Do Not Enter.'
I wouldn't blame them.
Ah-hah I'm glad you brought up the transmissions part.Saltyk said:I love pictures of space. It's just so awe inspiring.Snotnarok said:Of course there's alien life out there, whether or not it's advanced or not is another question, I wouldn't know to begin with that. There is life out there there's no doubt about that, to think there isn't life out there because of odds, well the odds are against your thought.
=Life is a rare occurrence, and needs special conditions it couldn't happen.
-Actually no life does not need special treatment, we've found life living on radioactive rods and next to volcanic vents spewing out methane at 300F. Life is VERY durable and hard to kill, it will evolve and find and live.
Even if life was rare, there's billions/trillions of stars in our galaxy alone with worlds floating around them, that's just our galaxy not counting the vast uncountable amount outside our own that are even bigger than our 120k lightyear long milkyway.
These are galaxies, there's a lot of them meaning even if there was a .01% chance of life to be on a planet found, there'd be a vast abundance of life.
Have they visited earth?
That's quite the journey to meet with a very insignificant race, I imagine if they're able to cross the galaxy the most they'd do is give a glance/look through the senors as they went by. Even then? Why bother we're not advanced enough to visit. If they DID visit it'd be to steal some water and move along.
Anyway, I'm certain there is other life in the universe. Somewhere. Now, what form that life takes is a whole other question. We've been looking for signs of life on Mars in the form of bacteria. I'd say there are planets out there with life, it just might be a single celled organism. Though, I do think there can be other intelligent life. I'm certain of it, actually.
Now, for the other question. I don't know. There's no way I can say that an alien life form has never been to Earth. Ever. At any point in time. There's no way I can be certain what level of technology they might have. We constantly use our own technology as a gauge, but if an alien lifeform could reach Earth, they obviously have technology far beyond anything we know. Who knows just what that means. So, I'm skeptical about them visiting earth or not. I will say that I don't think aliens have made contact.
One thing that always surprises me that people seem to think alien life would have to be more advanced than us. I think that with the sheer number of stars and planets out there, there are probably aliens who have significantly more advanced technology. Others with technology on roughly the same level as our own. Others in what we might call Medieval times. And still others in much more primitive states of development.
Someone earlier pointed out that we have yet to detect any signals from other species. Considering the vast distances we're talking about, that's not surprising. Humanity has only really been transmitting information for less than 100 years. Do you think any other race has picked up our transmissions? Even if they did, do you think they would even realize it? Who says we haven't received transmissions without realizing it? We might not be looking in the right places. Maybe we could be watching alien soap operas if we tuned in to the right frequency!
Now think more about that, we've been broadcasting in radiowaves for how long and now everything is going digital and we're abandoning them. Okay so if an alien species is more advanced than us, why in gods name would they be tuning in for radio waves?
Sure I do. I believe in them. Rather good at jumping fences last I heard.
No, I just based that joke off the title. I get it. Why does it matter if aliens exist? That is a better question. Does it somehow make us less important if there is other life out there? What if this other form of life is way more complex then a human? Do you really want that knowledge?
Besides, they're so good at clipping hedges. XD
No, I just based that joke off the title. I get it. Why does it matter if aliens exist? That is a better question. Does it somehow make us less important if there is other life out there? What if this other form of life is way more complex then a human? Do you really want that knowledge?
Besides, they're so good at clipping hedges. XD
Yes and maybe. The whole "going across the sky in chariots of fire" thing zeus had a habit of doing makes me feel like ancient Greece watched an alien ship fly overhead, maybe shooting "bolts of lighting".
There's no real basis for this, but it's an interesting thought.
There's no real basis for this, but it's an interesting thought.
IS that a sideways Red Dwarf Semi-quote ?DVS BSTrD said:
On topic , the universe is finite. That is the currently held scientific belief, but 'finite' does not do justice to the sheer immensity of the universe, it is to all intents and purposes infinite from humanity's point of view. There are countless galaxies within this universe, oh and i do mean countless because we cannot see them all to be able to count them. We can't even see the 'Oort Cloud' the hypothesized realm of comets that lies beyone Pluto, so nobody actually knows the number of planets out there, the only thing we DO know is there must be a finite number of worlds that can harbour life even if it is just 1 we have found so far, for the slower amongst you that would be Earth. Drake's Equation is a serious of nested assumptions based on the then current belief and is no longer to my mind appropriate. So stop it lol
Do I beleive in aliens ? I'd like to think that somewhere out there there is a race of beings who are intelligent. I'd even say the chances are reasonable.
Do I beleive they have visited Earth ? No, would love to be 'proved' wrong though
Or, quite possibly, you're thinking in the wrong direction about this. Hint [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek] Since that's actually a repeat, I'll give you This [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Adams]and This [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy].Zarkov said:
Well, no to the second part. I merely said A deranged imagination, not mine. Though I do maintain, I am the product of such an imagination.thespyisdead said: