Do you believe in ghosts or the paranormal?

[Aqua Trenoble]

Also, and here's the exciting part "the universe" isn't a living thing. It's physics.


Let's be rational. For Science.

Alright, the universe isn't a living thing. But it's the least offensive term for whatever entity is influencing events. And there has to be something influencing events. Unless you're going to say that absolutely everything that ever has occurred is by complete chance?

 

[VanTesla]

No, I have a hard time believing in anything I havent seen with my own two eyes or isnt scientifically proven to exist. I would love for all that type of stuff to be real though.

I agree, but if it was real I hope the demon stuff was bs. I would not like to meet Captain Howdy...

 

[Aqua Trenoble]

Even if it worked only once, that's a 100% better scorecard than anything spriritual, paranormal has ever achieved.

Oh that's right, I forgot that spiritual and paranormal forces don't exist and have never done anything. Must suck to live in your world...

 

[Sejs Cube]

No, I don't believe in ghosts or the paranormal.

I'm perfectly willing to accept the idea of things we don't understand yet, but when it comes down to out and out "shit's just magic, don't gotta explain nothing". No. Just no.

Particular when it comes down to arrogantly humanocentric things like ghosts. The universe as a whole doesn't play favorites like that.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

I tend to quite cynical but if I saw a ghost it probably wouldn't surprise me. I know a symptom of schizophrenia is that you see dark figures so what's to say a lot of things aren't a trick of the mind.

I'm open minded but until I see it for myself I won't believe anything, I don't trust other people enough. (Unless they are an expert in thier field and backed up by thier peers of course)

 

[Jake0fTrades]

Hell, you're talking to one.

 

[Aqua Trenoble]

Oh trust me, I've paid attention pretty well up til now. For right now, I just need to give it all a rest

That's fine, I just figured that a warning was better than an unexpected boot up the rear.

 

[Mr. 47]

I view the paranormal as I view religion. To believe totally in a mainly intangible, invisible, and vaguely incomprehendable idea is foolish. There are those that had paranormal events, I am not one of those people. I've seen some oddities on the internet, and television (particularly the spoiler below. Made me shat bricks.) But nothing to make me believe total either side of the debate.

Spoiler

Little eerie, but not overly spectral, until you consider this picture:

John Matthew DeFeo, who lived in the house up until a year ago, until his murder. This was taken in a locked, believed to be empty house. No photogrophers saw, or heard this child beforehand. Taken in the Amityville house.

Could be an elaborate hoax, most of the 'horror' that occured there was fabricated for publicity, but still, elaborate...

 

[DR3AMCATCH3R94]

i believe in spirits/ghosts but anything after that i start to get sceptical.

 

[thePyro_13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBcQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D98OTsYfTt-c&ei=Gs8wTr-XHtTbiAKJoqGVBg&usg=AFQjCNGBA5zhnl6sRngJ70KR2t9xD4JtsQ&sig2=sh1WMjPYvEchTq2AygTGmw

Watch both of those videos, then reconsider what you're saying.

 

[TonyVonTonyus]

Demons, gods and spirits all seem very likely to exist to me, why wouldn't they? I also kinda believe porphyric hemophilia could be real.

Wrong question, why WOULD they exist?

A general belief among the supersticious and the religious that living creatures have souls and that they may inhabit the earth therefore existing in the minds of several billion people and perhaps outside ti as well? Though I'm just ballparking that one.

 

[tenaciousotaku]

I want to but I'm sure they don't. My eyes do play tricks on me a lot (and I mean a lot), but I usually blame it on lack of sleep.

 

[Aqua Trenoble]

'm calling it potential evidence because it's apparently completely fine to dismiss valid evidence by nullifying the credibility of the source.

The source is important in the sense that you don't have to go through testing the evidence if the source has no idea what it's talking about. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean the evidence can't be valid. The thing is up until now there has been no valid evidence.

We derailed because my evidence is only potential. Until the sources of the testimonials are proven infallible, said testimonials mean nothing. You began digging at that and then everything went to hell.

Testimonials are not evidence especially when dealing with placebos.

Of course the source is important if the evidence is questionable, but if it is truly valid evidence, as I presupposed, then who supplied it doesn't matter in the slightest.

So testimonials aren't evidence, even if the source is completely credible? Huh. That's a strange assertion, care to tell me where it came from?

EDIT: Disregard what was previously here. There are way too damn many comments in this thread.

 

[thePyro_13]

'm calling it potential evidence because it's apparently completely fine to dismiss valid evidence by nullifying the credibility of the source.

The source is important in the sense that you don't have to go through testing the evidence if the source has no idea what it's talking about. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean the evidence can't be valid. The thing is up until now there has been no valid evidence.

We derailed because my evidence is only potential. Until the sources of the testimonials are proven infallible, said testimonials mean nothing. You began digging at that and then everything went to hell.

Testimonials are not evidence especially when dealing with placebos.

Of course the source is important if the evidence is questionable, but if it is truly valid evidence, as I presupposed, then who supplied it doesn't matter in the slightest.

So testimonials aren't evidence, even if the source is completely credible? Huh. That's a strange assertion, care to tell me where it came from?

I like how you completely ignored my little story. I think that in return I'll ignore your little hate-speech.

Testimonials are the most horrible evidence available. That's why scam anti-virus/download/etc websites are always plastered with them.

They're unverifiable, and very easy to fabricate. ie. "I met God on the train this morning", instant testimonial. Completely useless in terms of proving god's existence, or even in proving whether or not I catch the train.

 

[Phlakes]

People's minds like to do some weird shit. When you're scared off your ass, I wouldn't be surprised if you think you see "ghosts".

And all the stories with "tangible evidence" are probably just a hoax.

But, just like religion, I don't deny the possibility. There are a lot of things people just can't comprehend.

 

[Jason Fayers]

Of course I believe in the supernatural and I even have access to a simple test you can do at home! Before you go to bed on the 24th of december leave out a carrot, some mice pies and brandy (or whatever spirt your dad has on hand). OH! I almost forgot you have to bring a pine tree into your house and decorate it; this is important. In the morning the food and drink will be gone! And there will be gifts under the tree from a spirt going by the alias of Santa, Saint Nick or Father Christmas.

WARNING: You may recieve coal instead of gifts if have behaved in a way that displeases the spirt.

 

[Aqua Trenoble]

Testimonials are the most horrible evidence available. That's why scam anti-virus/download/etc websites are always plastered with them.

They're unverifiable, and very easy to fabricate. ie. "I met God on the train this morning", instant testimonial. Completely useless in terms of proving god's existence, or even in proving whether or not I catch the train.

VALID, TRUE testimonials. Not ones that they made up on the spot.

 

[thePyro_13]

Of course I believe in the supernatural and I even have access to a simple test you can do at home! Before you go to bed on the 24th of december leave out a carrot, some mice pies and brandy (or whatever spirt your dad has on hand). OH! I almost forgot you have to bring a pine tree into your house and decorate it; this is important. In the morning the food and drink will be gone! And there will be gifts under the tree from a spirt going by the alias of Santa, Saint Nick or Father Christmas.

WARNING: You may recieve coal instead of gifts if have behaved in a way that displeases the spirt.

In an unrelated story, I sneak into my neighbours homes every Christmas and drink whatever I find.

 

[titykaka]

there is no science behind it as it would break the laws of entropy
all of these things rely on very poor understanding of the laws of physics