Do you believe in ghosts or the paranormal?

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Rathands

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There aren't enough stories on this thread, I'm posting one of my own (it's more of a strange coincidence than a ghost story though) :) and then one of my Nan's.

Around ten years ago - when I was little, I was lying in bed drifting off to sleep when I hit that kind of drowsy, half asleep moment of nodding off. During this stage, I felt my leg slip down the side of the bed (wall side) as it seemed my blankets had become untucked somehow. Barely a second later it felt like something grabbed my ankle - and I mean properly, like real pressure all the way around. Needless to say I was scared shitless and have diligently tucked my sheets in on that side every night since.

Fairly recently, I started sleeping at the opposite end of my bed and I found myself in one of those lucid dreams (the kind though, where you can think but you can't particularly control anything). In the dream, I was standing outside my Mum's bedroom door and was fumbling around in the dark for the light switch (it's around the corner on the right-hand-side). Part way through fumbling I thought, 'I'm going to get grabbed aren't I?' And I was. What was odd though, is that I definitely felt pressure round my wrist in my dream - it was the thing that jolted me awake but unlike before, it felt like a hand: I could feel the different fingers around my wrist but it didn't have any temperature to it.
So I woke up. Naturally I thought myself a twat for grabbing my own wrist in my sleep, but when I went to check the placement of my limbs I found my left arm was on the mattress but my right had slipped down the side of the bed. So it was roughly in the same place as my ankle was all those years ago. That coincidence kind of weirded me slightly as I hadn't thought about the former story in years. How did my brain know that my arm had fallen down in the night? Why does it have to scare me all the bloody time?! :mad:

Has anyone else had this when they were sleeping - all the old hag symptoms seem to be pressure on your chest.

My Nan's story:
My Nan said that she was travelling home one day from work in the dark (they lived in the country so it was pitch black) and she noticed a small, bobbing light following her. She started to become frightened as it seemed to be following her and was gradually getting closer and closer. Turns out it was a man on a bicycle with a cigarette in his mouth. :D
 

Aqua Trenoble

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thePyro_13 said:
Swollen Lymph Nodes heal on their own? Anti-biotics can speed up recovery and mask symptoms, but you don't have to do anything to get better.

>"There are no other possibilities."
Their are many possibilities, the most likely being that you were on the mend anyway, and just happened to coincide with you deciding to tank your illness.

Occam's razor, why select the explanation with the most assumptions, and least probability?
Fuck antibiotics. Seriously. I'd rather break something from trying too hard than take a pill to solve all of my problems.

Think about it this way. If I had just blindly followed conventional knowledge and taken the pill, then I would have had no chance of realizing that I didn't have to either of those things.

Most scientific breakthroughs were accomplished by scientists inventing new theories for why things work. I'm not saying I'm the next Einstein or Newton, I'm just saying that sometimes you have to work from nothing to accomplish anything.
 

soulfire130

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TypeSD said:
Aqua Trenoble said:
TypeSD said:
Aqua Trenoble said:
Oh that's right, I forgot that spiritual and paranormal forces don't exist and have never done anything. Must suck to live in your world...
Same world you live in. Until the spiritual and paranormal can actually be explained in rational, structured experiments, and "psychic ability" can be replicated, it's all hokum.
Arguably we all live within our own personal worlds with their own events and rules, but I digress.

If you refuse to accept even the possibility that there's more than science and logic then you're missing out on some really rad shit. That's all I meant.

I fail to see why you feel the need for there to BE anything else. Isn't the physical universe enough without, let's not pull any punches, fairy stories?
I fail to see how you can say that because there is no evidence means that its 'hokum'. It was once though that the world was flat even though it was acually round.
 

Stublore

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Do I believe in ghosts or the paranormal?
Fuck no!
Btw if anyone's "soul" is missing, help is available!


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ROFLMAO!!

Why don't I believe, for the same reason I'm an atheist.
It does not make sense:
An "supernatural" explanation makes as much sense as goddit!

@Aqua Trenoble 2 questions:
1)Why Oh Why has your mother NOT taken the James Randi Challenge?
2)Can she cure amputation? If not why not?


Now if someone can show robust credible proof of "supernatural" powers, happenings, then you can colour me a believer.
For those who do believe I suggest some Penn and Teller with a sprinkling of Derren Brown or vice versa.
 

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soulfire130 said:
TypeSD said:
Aqua Trenoble said:
TypeSD said:
Aqua Trenoble said:
Oh that's right, I forgot that spiritual and paranormal forces don't exist and have never done anything. Must suck to live in your world...
Same world you live in. Until the spiritual and paranormal can actually be explained in rational, structured experiments, and "psychic ability" can be replicated, it's all hokum.
Arguably we all live within our own personal worlds with their own events and rules, but I digress.

If you refuse to accept even the possibility that there's more than science and logic then you're missing out on some really rad shit. That's all I meant.

I fail to see why you feel the need for there to BE anything else. Isn't the physical universe enough without, let's not pull any punches, fairy stories?



I fail to see how you can say that because there is no evidence means that its 'hokum'. It was once though that the world was flat even though it was acually round.



Ok let me put it this way.


Prove it.

Any of it.


Prove to me that anything you care to describe as "supernatural" actually exists. Write out an experiment.


The world was proven round.


I'm waiting on something to be "proven" paranormal.

I am timing you.
 

thePyro_13

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Aqua Trenoble said:
thePyro_13 said:
Swollen Lymph Nodes heal on their own? Anti-biotics can speed up recovery and mask symptoms, but you don't have to do anything to get better.

>"There are no other possibilities."
Their are many possibilities, the most likely being that you were on the mend anyway, and just happened to coincide with you deciding to tank your illness.

Occam's razor, why select the explanation with the most assumptions, and least probability?
Fuck antibiotics. Seriously. I'd rather break something from trying too hard than take a pill to solve all of my problems.

Think about it this way. If I had just blindly followed conventional knowledge and taken the pill, then I would have had no chance of realizing that I didn't have to either of those things.

Most scientific breakthroughs were accomplished by scientists inventing new theories for why things work. I'm not saying I'm the next Einstein or Newton, I'm just saying that sometimes you have to work from nothing to accomplish anything.
You had no potential to break anything, doing nothing is a valid treatment for the condition you had. A doctor should have told you the same thing.
 

Aqua Trenoble

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TypeSD said:
Sir, I take grave offence to "trying". Sure, I can't "perceive" Infra-red light. It's ALL AROUND US. However, there are rational, empirical, REPEATABLE tests to prove it's existence.
Fine! I've been fucking proven wrong! Does it even matter? You're still the same person you were three minutes ago and I still live in a world of endless possibilities. Bravo! You accomplished absolutely nothing, while I at least (hopefully) got you to shut up.
 

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Stublore said:
@Aqua Trenoble 2 questions:
1)Why Oh Why has your mother NOT taken the James Randi Challenge?
2)Can she cure amputation? If not why not?
1. Probably because she, like me, doesn't give half a damn what you think.

2. You fucking know why not. You can't goddamn "cure" amputation, save through miraculous healing or limb replacement. You're just trying to appear clever. Emphasis on trying.
 

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I find it hard to believe in because the amount of obviously fake stuff people come out with. My mum is convinced that her dead mum is in her radio because she told a psychic that her radio is playing up one time and a few appointments later she was told her mum haunts her car. She still doesn't believe me when I say its the radio and it doesn't help things that her car started failing a while ago.
 

Aqua Trenoble

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thePyro_13 said:
You had no potential to break anything, doing nothing is a valid treatment for the condition you had. A doctor should have told you the same thing.
What condition did I have? I'm rather curious about the results of your ability to diagnose me over the internet.
 

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Aqua Trenoble said:
TypeSD said:
Sir, I take grave offence to "trying". Sure, I can't "perceive" Infra-red light. It's ALL AROUND US. However, there are rational, empirical, REPEATABLE tests to prove it's existence.
Fine! I've been fucking proven wrong! Does it even matter? You're still the same person you were three minutes ago and I still live in a world of endless possibilities. Bravo! You accomplished absolutely nothing, while I at least (hopefully) got you to shut up.
I still see endless possibility in the current universe, sunshine. I mean, sure, I'm flattered to think that you think that I know everything that there is to know about the universe. Who knows, I just might. (Hint: I don't)

However, shit's out there with explanations.


Who I'd rather call

 

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Aqua Trenoble said:
thePyro_13 said:
You had no potential to break anything, doing nothing is a valid treatment for the condition you had. A doctor should have told you the same thing.
What condition did I have? I'm rather curious about the results of your ability to diagnose me over the internet.
You said you had Swollen Lymph Nodes, so I'm working under the assumption you had Swollen Lymph Nodes. :p
 

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Aqua Trenoble said:
TypeSD said:
I still see endless possibility in the current universe, sunshine.
Obviously not, since you don't seem to see the possibility that I'm not full of shit.

Must...resist...obvious answer.


It's not always about you. I asked the universe.
 

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You try NOT believing in that sort of thing when your mother is a honest-to-god psychic witch (sorry, MEDICAL INTUITIVE) and has been making decent money on repeat clients for 20 years. I'm not even kidding, if there's good, reliable money in telehealing then there must be something to it.
It is called gullibility. Look at Homeopathy. People will believe anything.
OP: Used to, as a kid. I got better.
 

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thePyro_13 said:
You said you had Swollen Lymph Nodes, so I'm working under the assumption you had Swollen Lymph Nodes. :p
Why can't anyone fucking READ? I had things other than swollen lymph nodes. You really think I'd be pissed off enough to will myself back to health over something as trifling as a few sore lumps?
 

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Aqua Trenoble said:
Stublore said:
@Aqua Trenoble 2 questions:
1)Why Oh Why has your mother NOT taken the James Randi Challenge?
2)Can she cure amputation? If not why not?
1. Probably because she, like me, doesn't give half a damn what you think.

2. You fucking know why not. You can't goddamn "cure" amputation, save through miraculous healing or limb replacement. You're just trying to appear clever. Emphasis on trying.
1)Winning the James Randi Challenge would net her an amazing amount of free publicity and recognisation, just think of all the people she could help if we could replicate her "healing powers"!
Imagine how much money she would make!
Or is she not interested in helping others, or money?

2)Ah I get it, she can only "heal" what the body can heal on it's own!
Why can't her healing power regrow limbs? Is this a "scientific" limitation, or just a bloody obvious scamming the gullible limitation???


Studies of hospital patients receiving energetic healing have shown that the energy is intelligent,
If the energy is intelligent why can't it regrow limbs? Does it communicate this limitation to your mother or the patient? What was the basis for the determination that the energy is intelligent?
What sort of intelligence level is it?
What is it's I.Q?

Does anyone else find it weird that none of these miraculous healers cannot regrow limbs?
What do these healers have against amputees?
 

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Aqua Trenoble said:
thePyro_13 said:
You said you had Swollen Lymph Nodes, so I'm working under the assumption you had Swollen Lymph Nodes. :p
Why can't anyone fucking READ? I had things other than swollen lymph nodes. You really think I'd be pissed off enough to will myself back to health over something as trifling as a few sore lumps?
You realise that even the Flu goes away on its over over time.

Most non-life threatening conditions will simply be fought back by your body, most treatment is just to remove the symptoms so you can get back to your life while your body recovers.

I'm gunna step out of this discussion now anyway, it's no fun if you just get angry.
 

Aqua Trenoble

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Stublore said:
1)Winning the James Randi Challenge would net her an amazing amount of free publicity and recognisation, just think of all the people she could help if we could replicate her "healing powers"!
Imagine how much money she would make!
Or is she not interested in helping others, or money?
To be honest, I think that half of the time she only is in her line of work because she's forced to either use her powers or fuck up electronics in proximity to her. Her work has all the emotional and mental strain of being a psychologist with the added benefit of people constantly questioning your credibility.

Stublore said:
2)Ah I get it, she can only "heal" what the body can heal on it's own!
Why can't her healing power regrow limbs? Is this a "scientific" limitation, or just a bloody obvious scamming the gullible limitation???
I never said that she couldn't heal anything that the body can't. From what I understand, what she really does is help the body heal itself. It's not my area of expertise, however, so I'm afraid you'd have to continue perusing her website or ask her yourself to find the answers to your questions.