Do you believe in ghosts or the paranormal?

[flaming_squirrel]

I did share an experience, i saw an apparition when I was little in an old theater rumored to be haunted and it scared me so bad I never forgot it. Last night, Iw ent into an old hospital, still very structurally sound, and a door unlatched itself and swung open, then a few minutes later slammed shut.

Air preasure. If I leave a door downstairs in my house slightly ajar then open another, that door will slam shut. It's not ghosts doing that.

Obviously you didn't read a word of the previous sentence. Repeat clients. FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS. Nobody, no matter how gullible, pays 100 dollars on a regular basis for absolutely no reason. She gets referrals all the damn time. It is a legitimate buisness, dude.

Just like the people paying good money to places supplying weekly astrological guides.
If mystic meg tells me I'll have good luck as Venus is spinning around Uranus as I wear a pink and yellow knitted sweater on thursday evening it must be true.

In all seriousness, supply me with legitimate scientific evidence it's real and not a placebo effect and I'll gladly accept it.

 

[Zhadramekel]

I believe in them. I've never personally had an encounter but a good friend of mine had a major one several years ago. Plus for my Writing for Publication class, I recently put together an article on the existence of the paranormal

 

[Aqua Trenoble]

In all seriousness, supply me with legitimate scientific evidence it's real and not a placebo effect and I'll gladly accept it.

As much as I would like to, there is no scientific evidence. Really, that's why we're even having this discussion about whether it's real or not. If you want, you can talk to my mom. Her website is at spiritualmedicine.com. She may be able to prove to you that what she does isn't fake. Obviously there's nothing I can do to change your opinion.

I think that part of the problem is that if someone doesn't believe in something then it doesn't exist for them. Thus it is impossible to prove anything to skeptics because they will always come up for another more reasonable explanation.

If you choose not to have an open mind, that's your business.

 

[DEAD34345]

Yes, and non-believers often annoy me with their "look how much smarter I am by not believing in such childish nonsense" nonsense attitude.

I mean, God forbid that you accept the idea that there's more in the universe than directly meets the mere human eye. It's arrogant. And childish.

No, and believers often annoy me with their "look how much smarter I am by not attempting to look smart by believing in such childish nonsense" nonsense attitude.

I mean, God forbid that you accept the idea that random anecdotes without an ounce of proof are unlikely to be true. It's arrogant. And childish.

 

[LandoCristo]

I believe in ghosts:

 

[Cpu46]

Yes, I believe in the Paranormal to a point.

Ghosts, demons, possessions- No, never been in a position where the phenomena could not be explained by a natural occurrence. Doors open and close due to air pressure, seeing figures at the end of my bed when I snap out of sleep are after images from the dream, ect.

Deja vu, sixth sense, premonitions- yes, though I believe that they all have scientific rather than supernatural causes. Sixth sense being the part of the mind piecing together overlooked sensory information, ect.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

I think that part of the problem is that if someone doesn't believe in something then it doesn't exist for them. Thus it is impossible to prove anything to skeptics because they will always come up for another more reasonable explanation.

If you choose not to have an open mind, that's your business.

I didn't know demanding reasonable explanations and evidence before accepting something as truth makes you closed minded.

If you want, you can talk to my mom. Her website is at spiritualmedicine.com. She may be able to prove to you that what she does isn't fake. Obviously there's nothing I can do to change your opinion.

Spoiler

 

[flaming_squirrel]

As much as I would like to, there is no scientific evidence. Really, that's why we're even having this discussion about whether it's real or not. If you want, you can talk to my mom. Her website is at spiritualmedicine.com. She may be able to prove to you that what she does isn't fake. Obviously there's nothing I can do to change your opinion.

I think that part of the problem is that if someone doesn't believe in something then it doesn't exist for them. Thus it is impossible to prove anything to skeptics because they will always come up for another more reasonable explanation.

If you choose not to have an open mind, that's your business.

Well, having read her introductory page to be honest I kind of have issues with someone claming that they can treat cancer and chronic injury with nothing but the power of their mind yet at the same time admit it's no replacement for conventional medicine. A skeptic could say that's slightly unfair on medical professionals and scientific researchers.

If she makes people feel better about themselves and more confident in order to assist recovery, brilliant, good for her. Just not so keen on such far fetched claims which seem to be relying on regular treatment for results anyway.

 

[Aqua Trenoble]

I think that part of the problem is that if someone doesn't believe in something then it doesn't exist for them. Thus it is impossible to prove anything to skeptics because they will always come up for another more reasonable explanation.

If you choose not to have an open mind, that's your business.

I didn't know demanding reasonable explanations and evidence before accepting something as truth makes you closed minded.

That wasn't my point. My point is that closed-minded people refuse to believe anything other than a personal experience, and even then they can be skeptical. Lots of other people have had results from my mom, and yet you people assume that they are all gullible idiots just because you are skeptical of its efficacy.

 

[DEAD34345]

I think that part of the problem is that if someone doesn't believe in something then it doesn't exist for them. Thus it is impossible to prove anything to skeptics because they will always come up for another more reasonable explanation.

If you choose not to have an open mind, that's your business.

I didn't know demanding reasonable explanations and evidence before accepting something as truth makes you closed minded.

Demanding reasonable explanations does not make you close-minded.

If you want, you can talk to my mom. Her website is at spiritualmedicine.com. She may be able to prove to you that what she does isn't fake. Obviously there's nothing I can do to change your opinion.

Spoiler

It's laughing when someone offers to try and explain that makes you close-minded, not to mention rude. No wonder many believers dislike us sceptics.

 

[bue519]

You try NOT believing in that sort of thing when your mother is a honest-to-god psychic witch (sorry, MEDICAL INTUITIVE) and has been making decent money on repeat clients for 20 years. I'm not even kidding, if there's good, reliable money in telehealing then there must be something to it.

Care to share what your experiences were?

Because your mother isn't possibly taken advantage people and playing on their hopes?
As our buddy, Mr. Barnum said, "there's a sucker born every minute."

As for the topic, no I do not believe in ghosts, supernatural, but I do believe in the possibility of 5th dimensional creatures messing with us.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

That wasn't my point. My point is that closed-minded people refuse to believe anything other than a personal experience, and even then they can be skeptical. Lots of other people have had results from my mom, and yet you people assume that they are all gullible idiots just because you are skeptical of its efficacy.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you a few questions.

1. What sort of "results" are we talking about here?

2. What illnesses/problems did the people who were "treated" by your mother have?

3. Can you provide any evidence that this supposed "psychokinetic energy field" exists and then prove it has medicinal properties?

4. Can you provide evidence that your mother supposedly has "psyhic abilities"?

5. How much is your mother charging per session?

It's laughing when someone offers to try and explain that makes you close-minded, not to mention rude. No wonder many believers dislike us sceptics.

I am quite open to new ideas. What I am not open to is bullshit. If you want to believe that you're in someway special and have "abilities" then by all means do so but the moment you claim your "abilities" can cure a number of deadly diseases is the moment I will do whatever it takes to discredit you.

This so called "new age or alternative medicine" is not something I am going to easily accept giving that it's been debunked so many times before. New age medicine is dangerous and frankly, this sort of bullshit is getting old already.

Alternative medicine is nothing more than snake oil only instead of snake oil you've got "powers/abilities/energy fields whatever" and instead of "curing" impotence it "cures" cancer.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

To be quite frank and blunt: LOL no.

 

[The Hero Killer]

No, I have a hard time believing in anything I havent seen with my own two eyes or isnt scientifically proven to exist. I would love for all that type of stuff to be real though.

 

[ImprovizoR]

There is no paranormal. Just unexplained.

 

[JochemDude]

In all seriousness, supply me with legitimate scientific evidence it's real and not a placebo effect and I'll gladly accept it.

As much as I would like to, there is no scientific evidence. Really, that's why we're even having this discussion about whether it's real or not. If you want, you can talk to my mom. Her website is at spiritualmedicine.com. She may be able to prove to you that what she does isn't fake. Obviously there's nothing I can do to change your opinion.

I think that part of the problem is that if someone doesn't believe in something then it doesn't exist for them. Thus it is impossible to prove anything to skeptics because they will always come up for another more reasonable explanation.

If you choose not to have an open mind, that's your business.

Oke I'm gonna seriously compose myself here, what your mother does is charging 200 Dollar for a session in so called channeled energy by PHONE. That's not called helping, helping wouldn't cost 200 dollar, what she does is lying and scamming people into paying her large sums of money. If she was doing it to help people she wouldn't charge 200 dollar for a session by phone, period.

 

[Tallim]

I think that part of the problem is that if someone doesn't believe in something then it doesn't exist for them. Thus it is impossible to prove anything to skeptics because they will always come up for another more reasonable explanation.

If you choose not to have an open mind, that's your business.

I didn't know demanding reasonable explanations and evidence before accepting something as truth makes you closed minded.

Demanding reasonable explanations does not make you close-minded.

If you want, you can talk to my mom. Her website is at spiritualmedicine.com. She may be able to prove to you that what she does isn't fake. Obviously there's nothing I can do to change your opinion.

Spoiler

It's laughing when someone offers to try and explain that makes you close-minded, not to mention rude. No wonder many believers dislike us sceptics.

Quite. I knew a "medium" a while back and I didn't go out of my way to knock her beliefs despite the fact that she thought her orb photos were spectacular. I did a bit of an analysis on some of them (because she asked me to) and on one I found direct correlation between a nearby reflective surface and the orb in question. I then told her it was without a doubt caused by this reflection.

Turns out that was the orb she had been telling all her friends was the spirit of her mother.

She doesn't speak to me any more.


While I would dearly love to believe it's just not very feasible.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

I did share an experience, i saw an apparition when I was little in an old theater rumored to be haunted and it scared me so bad I never forgot it. Last night, Iw ent into an old hospital, still very structurally sound, and a door unlatched itself and swung open, then a few minutes later slammed shut.

Air preasure. If I leave a door downstairs in my house slightly ajar then open another, that door will slam shut. It's not ghosts doing that.

Obviously you didn't read a word of the previous sentence. Repeat clients. FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS. Nobody, no matter how gullible, pays 100 dollars on a regular basis for absolutely no reason. She gets referrals all the damn time. It is a legitimate buisness, dude.

Just like the people paying good money to places supplying weekly astrological guides.
If mystic meg tells me I'll have good luck as Venus is spinning around Uranus as I wear a pink and yellow knitted sweater on thursday evening it must be true.

In all seriousness, supply me with legitimate scientific evidence it's real and not a placebo effect and I'll gladly accept it.

Another example of people paying out ridiculous amounts of money for what is almost certainly no benefit is the lottery.

Captcha: hard and fast. uh oh.

 

[Herbsk]

I believe that anything is possible and that there are many unexplained phenomena in this world - but I don't specifically believe in ghosts because i've never had an encounter with one or any sort of situation where they might be there.

You could say that I believe that body has a spirit/soul - but I'm not sure I believe that spirit can or will walk the earth after the death of the body.