flaming_squirrel said:Air preasure. If I leave a door downstairs in my house slightly ajar then open another, that door will slam shut. It's not ghosts doing that.Kayla Herrera said:I did share an experience, i saw an apparition when I was little in an old theater rumored to be haunted and it scared me so bad I never forgot it. Last night, Iw ent into an old hospital, still very structurally sound, and a door unlatched itself and swung open, then a few minutes later slammed shut.
Just like the people paying good money to places supplying weekly astrological guides.Aqua Trenoble said:Obviously you didn't read a word of the previous sentence. Repeat clients. FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS. Nobody, no matter how gullible, pays 100 dollars on a regular basis for absolutely no reason. She gets referrals all the damn time. It is a legitimate buisness, dude.
If mystic meg tells me I'll have good luck as Venus is spinning around Uranus as I wear a pink and yellow knitted sweater on thursday evening it must be true.
In all seriousness, supply me with legitimate scientific evidence it's real and not a placebo effect and I'll gladly accept it.
Yes.Kayla Herrera said:I've always believed in the paranormal; I've had experiences of my own and recently a pretty big experience. I am curious as to who else believes or doesn't, why, and/or what happened that made you believe, etc?
Excuse me? So your mother uses a completely unproven "treatment" and basically scams people into giving her money by promising to help them and you're telling other people they're closed minded? Sorry, that doesn't fly with me and frankly I refuse to let your mother continuously scam honest people who are just looking for help. There's a difference between closed mindedness and asking for evidence. There's a big difference and if you can't see that then fine, don't. HOWEVER, what your mother is doing is scamming. Nothing else. She's a snake oil salesman and I can assure you she won't be "practicing" for long.Aqua Trenoble said:GO FUCK YOURSELF, GOOD SIR. Slander my beliefs all you fucking like, but you will NOT debase another person just because you're too close-minded and ignorant to acknowledge anything that doesn't fit into your world view.
No one asked to personally experience your mothers "powers". What people asked for was evidence which is an entirely different thing and as of now you've not been able to provide that. You've resorted to insults and I'm sorry but that does not prove your point.Aqua Trenoble said:My point was that anyone who refuses to believe anything that they don't personally experience IS close-minded and, furthermore, a complete asshole.
I never said that. What I DID say was that unless you provide evidence, what you and your mother advocate is complete and utter bullshit.Aqua Trenoble said:If your only supposition that something is a fallacy is that other people are gullible idiots then you're really grasping at straws. Yes the world is full of idiots, but that doesn't mean that everyone but you is one.
1. not sure what a "soul" has to do with thisGrell Sutcliff said:sure I believe because
1. There is still many doubts whether souls exist in the science community
2. my cd player would turn on for no reason
3.once I was in the bathroom and as I went to leave the light turned off but the light didn't burnout the switch had actually moved.
4. I've seen weird things before like one time my dad came into the house I said hi he said hey then walked into the kitchen then a second later he walked in the front door again I said hi he said hey and walked towards the kitchen but then I asked him how he got from the kitchen to the front door so fast and he didn't know what I was talking about because he wasn't really there the first time I saw him. Also I saw the house from the nightmare on elm street movies in one of my dreams before I actually watched the movie.
Has anyone pointed out to him yet that a "healer" claiming repeat business for 20 years seems like a very bad healer? If someone has to keep coming back for 20 years then they obviously aren't doing their job?AndyFromMonday said:snip
dude, how do you hit a light switch without noticing? and de ja vou doesn't make you hallucinate, open your mind a littleartanis_neravar said:1. not sure what a "soul" has to do with thisGrell Sutcliff said:sure I believe because
1. There is still many doubts whether souls exist in the science community
2. my cd player would turn on for no reason
3.once I was in the bathroom and as I went to leave the light turned off but the light didn't burnout the switch had actually moved.
4. I've seen weird things before like one time my dad came into the house I said hi he said hey then walked into the kitchen then a second later he walked in the front door again I said hi he said hey and walked towards the kitchen but then I asked him how he got from the kitchen to the front door so fast and he didn't know what I was talking about because he wasn't really there the first time I saw him. Also I saw the house from the nightmare on elm street movies in one of my dreams before I actually watched the movie.
2. issue with the wiring, now you would have something if it had no batteries and wasn't plugged in
3. It either wasn't flipped all the way or you hit it on your way out without noticing
4. Deja Vu and the second half is because your mind didn't have a real image for what you dreamed, so once you saw the movie your mind grasped the house from the movie and applied it to what you "remembered" from your dream.
But hey, if you want to belive in them, that's fine by me. I'm not going to try to convince you that you're wrong.There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.