Do you believe in ghosts or the paranormal?

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scar_47

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No theres no real scientific data that proves they exist most anything I've heatd about could be easily faked. There are people who believe the world is flat their only slightly worse than those that believe in ghosts or spirits. Just because you can sucker someone into paying fo physic anything doesn't prove squat except that some people are rather gullible.
 

Kayla Herrera

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flaming_squirrel said:
Kayla Herrera said:
I did share an experience, i saw an apparition when I was little in an old theater rumored to be haunted and it scared me so bad I never forgot it. Last night, Iw ent into an old hospital, still very structurally sound, and a door unlatched itself and swung open, then a few minutes later slammed shut.
Air preasure. If I leave a door downstairs in my house slightly ajar then open another, that door will slam shut. It's not ghosts doing that.

Aqua Trenoble said:
Obviously you didn't read a word of the previous sentence. Repeat clients. FOR 20 FUCKING YEARS. Nobody, no matter how gullible, pays 100 dollars on a regular basis for absolutely no reason. She gets referrals all the damn time. It is a legitimate buisness, dude.
Just like the people paying good money to places supplying weekly astrological guides.
If mystic meg tells me I'll have good luck as Venus is spinning around Uranus as I wear a pink and yellow knitted sweater on thursday evening it must be true.

In all seriousness, supply me with legitimate scientific evidence it's real and not a placebo effect and I'll gladly accept it.

there was no one else in the building at the time. No one else closing doors to cause others to open. I am aware of this scientific occurence and this was not it.
 

Xathos

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Yeah I believe in the paranormal stuff. Never really had an experience though, save for maybe some I have during sleep paralysis, but I don't really count those for obvious reasons.

I guess I just see no reason to outright disprove the supernatural and whatnot. I mean, is every single story, picture, and experience out there in the world phony? I guess you could always argue the experience is real, but that it isn't really paranormal. But its the same with psychics/fortune tellers. Are some just after your money using a very convincing scam? Most certainly. But I just find it hard to believe that every psychic in the world does that I guess.

Though thats not to say I wouldn't try to find a reasonable explanation. Its just if I encountered a ghost or something, I guess it just wouldn't surprise me. I wouldn't believe it right off the bat, but I wouldn't be too shocked if it was a legitimate ghost.

Of course, thats just my opinion! =D
 

interspark

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yes, i think the universe is more ridiculous and baffling than any mortal will ever hope to understand, i think it goes way beyond science and physics, as for personal encounters, i've had a tree that isn't there cast a shadow on my window frame, seriously! shadow of a tree, no tree, haven't seen it for a while though
 

Bara_no_Hime

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Kayla Herrera said:
I've always believed in the paranormal; I've had experiences of my own and recently a pretty big experience. I am curious as to who else believes or doesn't, why, and/or what happened that made you believe, etc?
Yes.

I'm actually very good at reading tarot cards. I've predicted people being fired from jobs, getting into car accidents, break-ups, and unexpected romances.

I've also seen a psychic talk to the spirit of someone recently deceased. I'm not talking cold reading here - the psychic didn't ask the person anything, and delivered information that was both accurate, relevant, and that the psychic didn't understand but that the recipient (and I) did.
 

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Aqua Trenoble said:
GO FUCK YOURSELF, GOOD SIR. Slander my beliefs all you fucking like, but you will NOT debase another person just because you're too close-minded and ignorant to acknowledge anything that doesn't fit into your world view.
Excuse me? So your mother uses a completely unproven "treatment" and basically scams people into giving her money by promising to help them and you're telling other people they're closed minded? Sorry, that doesn't fly with me and frankly I refuse to let your mother continuously scam honest people who are just looking for help. There's a difference between closed mindedness and asking for evidence. There's a big difference and if you can't see that then fine, don't. HOWEVER, what your mother is doing is scamming. Nothing else. She's a snake oil salesman and I can assure you she won't be "practicing" for long.

If you want to help people with alternative treatments, FINE. HOWEVER, you do not do so when there is no evidence to suggest those treatments work. At the same time you do not charge 200 dollars for bullshit like that.




Aqua Trenoble said:
My point was that anyone who refuses to believe anything that they don't personally experience IS close-minded and, furthermore, a complete asshole.
No one asked to personally experience your mothers "powers". What people asked for was evidence which is an entirely different thing and as of now you've not been able to provide that. You've resorted to insults and I'm sorry but that does not prove your point.


Aqua Trenoble said:
If your only supposition that something is a fallacy is that other people are gullible idiots then you're really grasping at straws. Yes the world is full of idiots, but that doesn't mean that everyone but you is one.
I never said that. What I DID say was that unless you provide evidence, what you and your mother advocate is complete and utter bullshit.
 

artanis_neravar

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Grell Sutcliff said:
sure I believe because
1. There is still many doubts whether souls exist in the science community
2. my cd player would turn on for no reason
3.once I was in the bathroom and as I went to leave the light turned off but the light didn't burnout the switch had actually moved.
4. I've seen weird things before like one time my dad came into the house I said hi he said hey then walked into the kitchen then a second later he walked in the front door again I said hi he said hey and walked towards the kitchen but then I asked him how he got from the kitchen to the front door so fast and he didn't know what I was talking about because he wasn't really there the first time I saw him. Also I saw the house from the nightmare on elm street movies in one of my dreams before I actually watched the movie.
1. not sure what a "soul" has to do with this
2. issue with the wiring, now you would have something if it had no batteries and wasn't plugged in
3. It either wasn't flipped all the way or you hit it on your way out without noticing
4. Deja Vu and the second half is because your mind didn't have a real image for what you dreamed, so once you saw the movie your mind grasped the house from the movie and applied it to what you "remembered" from your dream.
 

vivster

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nope i do not
we are in the 21st century now
so i know that there is no thunder god making the thunder
we have science now to apply to those things
the things we can't explain are either not well enough documented and/or just pure coincidences
i believe that most people who do believe have either not the cognitive capabilities to understand and/or just WANT to believe to make it easier for them to accept things
 

AdeptaSororitas

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Yes, because many unexplained thins occur all the time and I'm not a mindless drone who believes that if Science hasn't proven it then it's simply error. Many "paranormal" ie. outside the norm, things happen everyday. Hell, quantum physics are paranormal if you get down to it, and yet science believes in those. So yes, ghosts may exist, ghosts maybe be a result of quantum mechanics, since, according to scientists, Quantum Physics can result in anything, including but not limited to, the creation of matter.
 

Jonluw

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Have you ever seen that headline?
Neither have I.
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OT: Why the hell would I?
I've never had an experience that can be attributed to a paranormal being, nor have I ever seen any evidence of anything of such a phenomenon existing.
Nor has anyone else for that matter.

What people are saying is: Look at that thing that happened! You can't explain how that happened! That must mean a ghost/paranormal phenomenon did it!

This is stupid. What they're saying is "That can't be explained, therefore I can explain it."

I don't like to sound like a dick; but sometimes...

Seeing a phenomena that you can't explain is not ground enough to believe in something that goes against our current understanding of the world. If you can't explain the phenomena you experienced, you must accept that there is a number of physically viable explanations for why this thing is happening.
If you can't explain it and there is evidence to suggest that the phenomena is caused by a supernatural being (such as ectoplasm suddenly covering everything), then that's grounds for looking further into it. It is not, however, proof for the existence of such supernatural beings.
 

BleedingPride

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sure, ive had a couple of experiences that are strange enough that nothing can explain them so i'd call that paranormal.
 

artanis_neravar

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AndyFromMonday said:
Has anyone pointed out to him yet that a "healer" claiming repeat business for 20 years seems like a very bad healer? If someone has to keep coming back for 20 years then they obviously aren't doing their job?
 

supermariner

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I don't believe in the supernatural or psychic abilities to contact 'the other side' in any way

I respect people's right to believe in the supernatural, i have no problem with that.
But I won't respect people who make money out of other peoples beliefs in that area. I.e. psychics.
In my eyes it's fine to believe someone is contacting the dead
But if you're the one doing the contacting, you KNOW you're lying

I'd preferably like to see all psychics who prey on vulnerable people for no better reason than selfish personal gain with their shameless lies about the afterlife to die alone after chewing their own tongue out in a windowless cell after 15 years of uninterupted mental and physical torture
I may have gone too far there. But you asked for my feelings on it. And you got them :)
 

interspark

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artanis_neravar said:
Grell Sutcliff said:
sure I believe because
1. There is still many doubts whether souls exist in the science community
2. my cd player would turn on for no reason
3.once I was in the bathroom and as I went to leave the light turned off but the light didn't burnout the switch had actually moved.
4. I've seen weird things before like one time my dad came into the house I said hi he said hey then walked into the kitchen then a second later he walked in the front door again I said hi he said hey and walked towards the kitchen but then I asked him how he got from the kitchen to the front door so fast and he didn't know what I was talking about because he wasn't really there the first time I saw him. Also I saw the house from the nightmare on elm street movies in one of my dreams before I actually watched the movie.
1. not sure what a "soul" has to do with this
2. issue with the wiring, now you would have something if it had no batteries and wasn't plugged in
3. It either wasn't flipped all the way or you hit it on your way out without noticing
4. Deja Vu and the second half is because your mind didn't have a real image for what you dreamed, so once you saw the movie your mind grasped the house from the movie and applied it to what you "remembered" from your dream.
dude, how do you hit a light switch without noticing? and de ja vou doesn't make you hallucinate, open your mind a little
 

dlsevern

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I believe in ghosts, it is not childish at all. I wish I could explain this better but I don't think they are actually spirits of the dead so to speak. I think what people are seeing are moments of time from the past or even the future.
 

Da Orky Man

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I personally have had no experiences with the paranormal. Every supposed psychic or fortune-teller I've come across has either refused to let me test their theories, or have happily accepted and failed them badly.
 

CM156_v1legacy

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Do I belive in the supernatural? I belive in God. If that counts, yes.

But I do not put stock in fortune tellers.
Why?
Deuteronomy 18 10-12.
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
But hey, if you want to belive in them, that's fine by me. I'm not going to try to convince you that you're wrong.