Do you believe in true love and finding the one?

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Let me show you all the way I see it, the best way, the mathematical way.

How many ways can you present the number 1? Let's see, there's 1, 1/1, 2/2, 1+1-1, 1x1, 1^1, 1^2. This could, in every sense, go on forever. There are infinite ways to write any number, but you choose which way you write it. Now lets transfer it to love. There are so many different girls and you can choose which one you want.

What I'm saying is that there is no true destined girl for you, as is there no definite way to write a number. You can choose whichever girl you want, just as you choose how to write your number. As well as that, you choose how long you are together (through your subconscious of how you much you really like the girl) exactly like you choose how you write your number each time you write it.

Ahhh maths, how I love your infinite wisdom and applications.

 

[DSK-]

I'd like to think they exist. I haven't found anything yet, but then again I've hardly pushed the boat out and actively searched. I have too much ass to kick!

 

[ShadowsofHope]

Nope, don't buy it for a moment. Then again, I'm also a cynical 18 year old whom has only been out with one person in my entirety so far. But I really don't think that makes a difference, too much potentials out there for one to remain faithful forever, in my opinion.

 

[Mr Thin]

Love exists, and there are differing types and degrees of love.

But there is definitely no such thing as 'The One'. Theoretically, I suppose it is possible for there to be one person with whom you are most compatible, but that doesn't make them 'The One' as it is commonly understood, it just makes them the most suitable choice out of what's available.

Also, what the **** is 'True Love' exactly? Everyone seems to have a different opinion on what that term refers to, so unless there is a concrete definition of it (and it could be argued that love is inherently undefinable) I'm going to assume that it doesn't really exist, that it's just slang for really strong love, which is, as they say, a chemical reaction in the brain.

 

[Mr Thin]

My opinion can be better represented by the witty musing lyrics of Mr Tim Minchin

**** YEAH! TIM MINCHIN ALL THE WAY!

He's my idol.

 

[Airhead]

There is no single "One", but a number of people who are right for you, and said number depends on how picky and/or difficult to live with you are.

Love in the sexual sense is a drive with the ultimate goal of making babies. Period. By love in a non-sexual way I mean loving your PS3, loving your friends or loving your grandma (unless you find your grandma hot that is).

"True" love is a silly phrase. Two people can make a good or a bad match, "true" love is just a very good match. I do believe that two people can (if they are indeed a very good match) stay together for a lifetime and genuinely care for each other until the end. So my cynicism has limits.

That said, we need to forget that crap the movies taught us about destiny, two lovers fighting against all odds just to be together and then loving each other forever. A casual approach is better IMHO. Think about friendship. When meeting some new pal you wouldn't bother to think whether he's the "one" best friend and whether you're perfect for one another as buddies, you just hang out and have fun. That's why friendships can easily continue indefinitely, because they're not bound by the baggage of overly high expectations, the bane of modern society. Not sure if I'm making sense here.

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Why is saying a human has a superior intellect to an animal so funny to you? That's not a subjective opinion - it's a fact. We aren't talking about morals here - we are smarter than animals...... apparently this is news to you?

define smart. we are more naturally inclined to science and machines, which grants us world domination over all 'lesser' animals. is it smart though? in my oppinion, no.
animals all had a natural balance with one another. and with us. till we invented balistic weapons that is...

Well, if it's not "smart", then what would you define it has? It is because of our significantly greater intellectual functionality that we have been able to accomplish so much in the areas of science and technology - we process information and are able to contemplate complex topics in ways which are unseen in any other species on this planet. If that's not smart, then I don't know what is.

The ability to maintain equilibrium with one's environment is hardly something I'd consider "smart" - literally every organism on the planet does that naturally. Humans are really the only ones who haven't been able to establish such a balance - I would argue that it is BECAUSE we are so smart that such a balance has not been struck; our superior intellect is both our greatest attribute and our greatest flaw, but that doesn't change the fact that the superior intellect is still there.

Human intellect is superior, humans in general are not, because it's meaningless to call a whole species "superior". So I guess I agree with you.

 

[thahat]

Note that "the one" doesn't necessarily equate to there being only one person who's 'perfect' for you - the odds are that there's quite a lot, but you'll never meet any of them. When I think of or hear "the one" I take it to mean someone who you would want to and could quite happily spend the rest of your life with, not that they're necessarily the only one with said attributes.

Whilst I do believe in true love because I'm an optimist, I'm also a realist, thus believe that very few people will ever find it, and it's unlikely I ever will either. Most of us will be happy to find someone almost perfect, and work out the differences as and when they surface, to "make it work" as someone said earlier.

Note that true love doesn't have to be mutual, either.

i tip my hat to you sir and feel like a kindred spirit , and strangely enough something tells me that you, eventualy, will find someone who thinks your the one for them

Being said by a guy called "the hat", that means quite a lot thank you my good sir and that is the dream one can only hope it becomes reality >_< alas I fear there will be much pain 'ere they are found, and I hope I am in a position to return it when the time comes.

A more interesting question, perhaps, is what's the difference between the true love of a friend, and the true love of a partner? I have a few people whom I love as if they were my own family, but what separates them from the other half of said emotion? We can certainly feel a distinct boundary, but how do you explain it, and what causes it?

in my experiance, the true love of a friend -same sex- is different in that it is A: a lot more rare, for there are only few friends who would stick up for one another no matter what these days. battlebrothers kinda thing apples of the same tree.. god i suck at explaining here.

and B: there is no sexual tension, and because your of the same make and gender, you can prety much know what the other guy is thinking before he thinks it without the hastle of having to make girl/guy translations in thought etc.

now if its a GIRL -or a boy if your a girl you get the gist- were talking about as a love of a friend, then i say, there is a large chance, that one or the other will fall in love anyway, and remove the difference entiraly, it just depends on the amount of time
( the longer people spend together, the larger the chance they hook up, its the way the world works )

 

[EeveeElectro]

You'll never find someone perfect for you... I thought my boyfriend was perfect for me, everything I wanted, then came the flirting with other girls and using chat sites.
So if it's too good to be true, it probably is.
But yes, I believe in love, and I believe most people can find someone.
That's what Disney taught me!

 

[Shinigami214]

I was having a chat with my bud today and the topic of true love and findign the one came up and it got me thinking, what does true love actually mean and why do people believe so strongly that there is one person in the world who is absolutely perfect for them?

Escapist patrons, please give me your opinions

Yeah, I wondered about it too until I came across one particular girl. She showed me that yes, it's real.

Too bad it didn't work out.

 

[thahat]

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Why is saying a human has a superior intellect to an animal so funny to you? That's not a subjective opinion - it's a fact. We aren't talking about morals here - we are smarter than animals...... apparently this is news to you?

define smart. we are more naturally inclined to science and machines, which grants us world domination over all 'lesser' animals. is it smart though? in my oppinion, no.
animals all had a natural balance with one another. and with us. till we invented balistic weapons that is...

Well, if it's not "smart", then what would you define it has? It is because of our significantly greater intellectual functionality that we have been able to accomplish so much in the areas of science and technology - we process information and are able to contemplate complex topics in ways which are unseen in any other species on this planet. If that's not smart, then I don't know what is.

The ability to maintain equilibrium with one's environment is hardly something I'd consider "smart" - literally every organism on the planet does that naturally. Humans are really the only ones who haven't been able to establish such a balance - I would argue that it is BECAUSE we are so smart that such a balance has not been struck; our superior intellect is both our greatest attribute and our greatest flaw, but that doesn't change the fact that the superior intellect is still there.

all im arguing, that 'smart' is a word with a meaning, the meaning you put on the word defines if humans are smart or not.

yes, we are smart. if smart means big brained, good processing of information, and creative enough to overcome our natural flaws by means of tools.

no, if smart should also mean not being as self destructive as a single celled organism.
or as my girlfriend would gladly point out to me 'if humans would finaly stop thinking with their dicks >.>'

 

[Angryman101]

To expand on my previous opinion, yes, love definitely exists, and it doesn't have to be between couples that are a complete, perfect match, and sometimes those imperfections can even improve a relationship. Romantic love can be the most fulfilling and lasting thing humans can experience, and can endure for many, many years. Not all do, and some end messily, but love, in the end, is worth it. True love...I'm not sure about that. It sounds almost boring, being completely and perfectly matched. I wouldn't know, though, I have yet to come across such a pairing.

 

[SonicKoala]

all im arguing, that 'smart' is a word with a meaning, the meaning you put on the word defines if humans are smart or not.

yes, we are smart. if smart means big brained, good processing of information, and creative enough to overcome our natural flaws by means of tools.

no, if smart should also mean not being as self destructive as a single celled organism.
or as my girlfriend would gladly point out to me 'if humans would finaly stop thinking with their dicks >.>'

Although I would normally dismiss that as small-minded feminism, I can't shake the feeling that there's a lot of truth behind that statement.....

Anyhow, you're free to definie "smart" however you like - I see where you're coming from, and I'm just arguing "smart" in the more technical sense. Now, perhaps this discussion is best put aside before any more profound thread derailing takes place

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

What an outdated model. Emotion is biochemistry and vice versa. You do not successfully diminish the former by identifying the latter anymore than I diminish the beauty of a starry night by harping on astronomy.

We've also evolved, rather clearly, beyond simple reproductive motivations. Happiness is frequently found in couples with no ability to procreate, and a large variety of traits now generate attraction without providing any conceivable indication of fitness.

Love exists, "true love" doesn't. I think it's as potentially damaging to suggest that pure idealism in the matter of physical/mental attraction should be blindly followed as it is to suggest nothing but empiricism. I do continue to suggest that romance isn't necessarily worth the price of admission, and that it regularly causes more problems than it's worth. I think it's important to be somewhat realistic about it, and recognise that you might not necessarily find romantic happiness. It is reasonably assured that I won't.

Oddly enough, the first good piece of advice anyone ever gave me about love and relationships is that I need to be happy with myself and my place in the world before I can share that love with someone else. The drama that surrounds most relationship woes typically has a lot to do with preexisting personal conditions of discontent, dissatisfaction, and disillusionment. You really can't put the crushing pressure of your personal happiness on another person and expect anything but exhaustion and, eventually, severance.

 

[thahat]

all im arguing, that 'smart' is a word with a meaning, the meaning you put on the word defines if humans are smart or not.

yes, we are smart. if smart means big brained, good processing of information, and creative enough to overcome our natural flaws by means of tools.

no, if smart should also mean not being as self destructive as a single celled organism.
or as my girlfriend would gladly point out to me 'if humans would finaly stop thinking with their dicks >.>'

Although I would normally dismiss that as small-minded feminism, I can't shake the feeling that there's a lot of truth behind that statement.....

Anyhow, you're free to definie "smart" however you like - I see where you're coming from, and I'm just arguing "smart" in the more technical sense. Now, perhaps this discussion is best put aside before any more profound thread derailing takes place

your quite right, and il hand you that we are crafty buggers in a technical sense.
-hands you a cup of tea and a cookie-

 

[nick n stuff]

yes and no. I believe that there is someone for everyone but 'true love' and 'the one' doesn't seem plausible. That would mean there was an equal number of males and females...not likely.

 

[infested]

if only 1 was right id be sad....der

 

[RicoADF]

I see 'love' as a feeling, not a phenomenon. It's just a desire to fill like hunger or thirst. There's not one particular 'love' out there for you, but just some people are better at quenching your 'thirst' than others. It's not destiny.

I was having a chat with my bud today and the topic of true love and findign the one came up and it got me thinking, what does true love actually mean and why do people believe so strongly that there is one person in the world who is absolutely perfect for them?

Escapist patrons, please give me your opinions

I believe, I've found her

I hope you prove a lot of us wrong. If I catch you making a 'break-up' thread in six months, I'm going to slap you with a brick for getting our hopes up; so you best make it work.

lol, you'd have to beat me to it (hitting me with a brick)

 

[thom_cat_]

I'm really not sure what it is... I don't think there is a TRUE love, but love certainly.
My last gf makes me smile, and be immensely happy. She is also extremely beautiful to me, I can see her faults but I don't care and my mind glosses over them. I also want to hold her close and not let go. My stomach does flips whenever I see her...
but sadly she doesn't want a relationship,

Penguin says (8:52 PM):
i ain't no relationship gal, it would seem

and now I'm stuck behind the glass and I can't touch her. I'm still taking her to the formal though... but it doesn't change the fact she doesn't want a boyfriend. Introverts suck :'(

Spoiler: http://fluffles.bigbighuge.com/ :D

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