I do care about the graphics and how they play into the aesthetic experience of a game, yes. Of course, I mostly look for simple competency technology-wise and focus more on art direction.
Do you care about graphics?
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I'd love to be able to say graphics make no difference but to be honest i've had games ruined by the graphics. it wasn't that the graphics if you looked at it technically were bad they just made it so, i at least, couldn't play the game. whether it was the inability to see someone shooting at you or just being unable to tell stuff apart, graphics can kill a game.
They can't make a game however if the graphics are amazing, to a point were i feel like I'm watching a movie i am just as likely or even more to put it down if the gameplay isn't up to scratch, FF XIII jumps to mind. stunning graphics, have seen animated films with worse graphics but still the lack of gameplay bugged me and i lasted the 20 hour recommended period got to disc 3 and decided screw it I'm bored.
Gameplay 1st then graphics that suit the gameplay, as long as the graphics work for the game and i don't feel like the game has been changed to allow for "stunning graphics" i don't care about them anymore
They can't make a game however if the graphics are amazing, to a point were i feel like I'm watching a movie i am just as likely or even more to put it down if the gameplay isn't up to scratch, FF XIII jumps to mind. stunning graphics, have seen animated films with worse graphics but still the lack of gameplay bugged me and i lasted the 20 hour recommended period got to disc 3 and decided screw it I'm bored.
Gameplay 1st then graphics that suit the gameplay, as long as the graphics work for the game and i don't feel like the game has been changed to allow for "stunning graphics" i don't care about them anymore
I have never cared about graphics simply because I've never owned any form of gaming hardware that could be considered 'top-tier' for graphics. PS2, Gameboy Colour, NDS, Wii, PC with out-of-date graphics card and finally Xbox 360 without an HD TV. This has taught me to lower my standards incredibly for video game graphics to the point that I just don't care.
More to the point I tend to be hatefully envious of people who are big on having the best graphics and that type of thing.
More to the point I tend to be hatefully envious of people who are big on having the best graphics and that type of thing.
I care about graphics because any improvements to them will tell me that were still advancing. Anytime I See a game that was made to look worse then the original I shake my head in shame.
If the game has a valid reason to cut graphic like minecraft then I wont mind. The thing I loved seeing was how silent hill and resident evil used things like fog to improve the capability of the ps1 so they could improve graphics.
If the game has a valid reason to cut graphic like minecraft then I wont mind. The thing I loved seeing was how silent hill and resident evil used things like fog to improve the capability of the ps1 so they could improve graphics.
This actually made me laugh because it's so true, the relationship between how we depict games and how we depict our partners is almost similar.Jason Danger Keyes said:
One might say that they prefer a stunning partner, but would they be happy with that partner simply for being good looking or because that partner just clicks with them in everything they love and enjoy, the same could be said for gaming, much of the reason why I keep on returning to old games I loved as a kid is because while they may not hold a torchlight to the beauty that is Uncharted for example, they are fun.
Take one of my favourites for example, Abe's Oddysee still looks beautiful to me, it was my first PS1 game and I'll still be enjoying it when PS5 comes out, will I still enjoy Crysis which was a graphical masterpiece? No, but that's probably because of my own personal preference, I just feel like certain games clicked with me, stayed in my mind and will forever be timeless classics, otherwise Tetris, Pacman and Alien Invaders are concepts that would have died out years ago.
I'm not directly comparing the graphical quality of Pacman to Gears because that would be an unfair advantage to Gears obviously, but I'm comparing the appreciation you, I, we had for a classic like pacman which can be played over and over and graphical marvels released today that are only sometimes worth 1 playthrough before they are sold off and never really thought of again.
This is what I mean by gameplay vs graphics, I'm not exactly pointing towards games with bad graphics as I don't expect anyone to like games with bad graphics because it makes gameplay annoying as well, there are several forms of good graphics in gaming, they don't all have to be about 3D photorealism, but the question I was getting at is to put it more precisely 'Would you be able to appreciate something that doesn't focus on polygon count and 3D immersion and would you be able to play and old game and not only enjoy it, but appreciate it as much as you would a new game'.
Don't simply see it as me saying for example, hot people are for one night stands, people with amazing personalities are forever.
if good graphics = realistic graphics, then no, i dont give a shit.
but if a game has a distinctive style, like zelda the wind waker, okami or shadow of the colossus, then it is another story, i think.
also, i am a sucker for highly complex 2d-sprite animation, like many later neo-geo games or odin sphere
but if a game has a distinctive style, like zelda the wind waker, okami or shadow of the colossus, then it is another story, i think.
also, i am a sucker for highly complex 2d-sprite animation, like many later neo-geo games or odin sphere
Didn't mean to sound like I was harping on you in particular. I get where you're coming from, and I agree.pulse2 said:This actually made me laugh because it's so true, the relationship between how we depict games and how we depict our partners is almost similar.Jason Danger Keyes said:
One might say that they prefer a stunning partner, but would they be happy with that partner simply for being good looking or because that partner just clicks with them in everything they love and enjoy, the same could be said for gaming, much of the reason why I keep on returning to old games I loved as a kid is because while they may not hold a torchlight to the beauty that is Uncharted for example, they are fun.
Take one of my favourites for example, Abe's Oddysee still looks beautiful to me, it was my first PS1 game and I'll still be enjoying it when PS5 comes out, will I still enjoy Crysis which was a graphical masterpiece? No, but that's probably because of my own personal preference, I just feel like certain games clicked with me, stayed in my mind and will forever be timeless classics, otherwise Tetris, Pacman and Alien Invaders are concepts that would have died out years ago.
I'm not directly comparing the graphical quality of Pacman to Gears because that would be an unfair advantage to Gears obviously, but I'm comparing the appreciation you, I, we had for a classic like pacman which can be played over and over and graphical marvels released today that are only sometimes worth 1 playthrough before they are sold off and never really thought of again.
This is what I mean by gameplay vs graphics, I'm not exactly pointing towards games with bad graphics as I don't expect anyone to like games with bad graphics because it makes gameplay annoying as well, there are several forms of good graphics in gaming, they don't all have to be about 3D photorealism, but the question I was getting at is to put it more precisely 'Would you be able to appreciate something that doesn't focus on polygon count and 3D immersion and would you be able to play and old game and not only enjoy it, but appreciate it as much as you would a new game'.
Don't simply see it as me saying for example, hot people are for one night stands, people with amazing personalities are forever.
I'm a huge Disgaea nut, and all those games have 2D sprite characters and very rudimentary 3D for backgrounds, despite being on Graphical powerhouse systems like the PS3 and PSP. I'm there for the gameplay, but I do find a lot of charm in the simple, attractive 2D sprites. Would I like it less if it looked better? Would it be less charming with higher-res 2D sprites with more animations and better 3D textures? Hell no. I'm excited that the upcoming Disgaea 4 will be higher-res. Since I'm going to undoubtably be spending as much time in that game as I have in all the others (a couple hundred hours to say the least) I would like it to look sharp and slick.
Yeah, same here go 70's and 80's, your games won't be forgoten!Grouchy Imp said:Here's a screenshot from one of my favourite games; you tell me if I think graphics are important!
Gameplay beats graphics for me, every time.
(I still play the orginal tetris, space invaders, pac man, asteroids and more shit like that. Also, games for my old SNES.)
When it comes down to it it will always be Gameplay>Graphics.
There will always be the occasion (becoming more and more common) where a game has supurb graphics AND gameplay and that is always welcome, but if sacrifices have to be made, it should always be in the graphics department.
There will always be the occasion (becoming more and more common) where a game has supurb graphics AND gameplay and that is always welcome, but if sacrifices have to be made, it should always be in the graphics department.
No... actually yes, everyone does. People who say they don't are lying.
Let me explain. When the PS2 came out, it drew a line in the sand in terms of graphics. It was now relatively easy to have a console game with full 3D which didn't look all boxy and junk. You could get that before on the PC but it brought a higher standard of graphics to the biggest possible audience. Now if you're playing what was a serious or a scary game like Silent Hill, you think to yourself "this game looks silly" and that ruins immersion and things.
Games like those were limited by what the machines could do and the graphics now show their age. You could still relive the experience I had playing Silent Hill 3 when I got so scared, I turned off the console, switched the light on and called up a friend. You couldn't do that with Silent Hill. I've been drinking by the way, but you get the point.
Read some posts and people don't get the point. Noone plays a game because of the graphics, that's ridiculous. But people can be put off a game by poor graphics, it can break the experience particularly in first person games or third person games with chase cameras. Games where you're meant to feel like you are the character.
Let me explain. When the PS2 came out, it drew a line in the sand in terms of graphics. It was now relatively easy to have a console game with full 3D which didn't look all boxy and junk. You could get that before on the PC but it brought a higher standard of graphics to the biggest possible audience. Now if you're playing what was a serious or a scary game like Silent Hill, you think to yourself "this game looks silly" and that ruins immersion and things.
Games like those were limited by what the machines could do and the graphics now show their age. You could still relive the experience I had playing Silent Hill 3 when I got so scared, I turned off the console, switched the light on and called up a friend. You couldn't do that with Silent Hill. I've been drinking by the way, but you get the point.
Read some posts and people don't get the point. Noone plays a game because of the graphics, that's ridiculous. But people can be put off a game by poor graphics, it can break the experience particularly in first person games or third person games with chase cameras. Games where you're meant to feel like you are the character.
At this point I think graphics are becoming less important because as they are already very impressive/detailed enough in most games, however a games visual aesthetic is very very important and can literally make or break a game. I the games visual aesthetic works then the graphics become a lot less important... this is doubly true if the story and game mechanics themselves are good too.