Do you feel bad about "the starving kids in Africa" ?

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Panda Mania

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It makes me sad to see such brutal realities being twisted and manipulated and exploited until they are entirely devoid of meaning. The whole "starving children in Africa" thing has been turned into a horrible cliche used to emotionally goad Westerners into donating to various charities (whose efficacy varies -_-). (In fact, when my sister traveled to refugee areas in Uganda, she refused to take pictures of or with anyone she didn't get to personally know first. Just her way of combating the "pretty white girl with random impoverished African kids" trope.) As we can see, it's gotten to the point where many are driven away from donating to aid by all the shameless guilt-tripping that has been going on for years.

Yet world hunger and global poverty still ravage entire populations to an obscene extent, here in the 21st century. I can't ignore that, and because of who I am (I'm kind of a melancholy, empathetic type), it disturbs me to my core. I've resolved to search beyond the numbing pictures and explore the realities, the problems, and the possible solutions to the pressing questions of global development and progress. It's a fascinating and relevant topic, as it turns out. Yes, there is, as you would expect, a lot of depressing news about the unmet needs of desperate millions around the world, but total disillusionment means failing to recognize the enormous potential for improvement offered by government policies, UN initiatives, international law, grassroots organizations, local reform, and even *gasp!* foreign aid. The key to real results is rethinking many of our current fruitless efforts. With smart strategies like targeted aid, assessment and analysis, and comprehensive approaches (such as the encompassing issue of women's empowerment), much of the unspeakable suffering can be stopped. Not all of it, of course, but I've always been of the opinion that less suffering is always preferable to more.
 

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Craorach said:
I was desensitized to it by the time I was five.

I used to regularly see Oxfam ads for Etheopia.. "For just 50p per week you can feed this starving child"... in my childs mind, it meant that if I didn't give my pocket money every week... I'd be murdering that child. It would be directly my fault.

Ever since then, I've come to one firm conclusion. No charity, at all, no cause, at all, should be allowed to appeal to emotion. They should be required to only state cold, clinical, facts and persuade people only using logic and debate. Appeals to emotion, especially when trying to leech money from people, are reprehensible in all situations.
This sums it up perfectly. By the time I actually made any money I was so annoyed by these ads guilt tripping me so I just ignored them.

Yes, I do feel bad for them, their situation sucks but no, I wont do anything about it. Partly because of the reason above and partly because, from what I've heard, these charities aren't doing a whole load of fixing.
 

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I feel bad about the starving kids in Africa, but I feel worse about the starving kids in my country.
 

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No, I don't feel bad for them. They have their lives, I have mine. Even if they were born into a less fortunate world, it doesn't mean I have to care.
Feeling guilty doesn't even enter the equation for me. I have my own life to live; I'm not going to spend it worrying about someone else's.
 

Eventidal

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"Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for life."

Seems to me my "15 cents a day" is feeding a man some fish. And a cut of that is being split amongst a bunch of guys who have more money than they really need. I'm in a low-funds situation right now, to put it lightly. I'm NOT the worst-off in this world by far but I have plans for life and I intend to push for that.
I have no duty to feed kids across the world from me. I take no responsibility for overpopulation in lands that cannot physically support their immense populations. I feel for them, and I feel for the people working crappy factory jobs for a dollar a day in other countries. But the only people who are really in any position to fix that are the football players earning enough money every year to BUY a third-world country. The big suits getting paid millions to sit around and make cuts on tiny employee paychecks and issue pink slips so they can fatten their wallets a bit more, or avoid getting just a bit less themselves. The guys heading billion-dollar campaigns to back a man whose goal is to become this country's new ruler. *cough*
THEY have the money. They make more per MINUTE than I could afford to part with in a month. I'm only one guy. I have little power over the situation.

And the depressing side of me of course comes up in these situations. There will always be pain, torture, death, famine, disease, etc. in massive quantities in this world. Even IF we could all come together in this world to work as one to end pain and suffering, it wouldn't be possible. I feel powerless against it, especially when my best contribution would hardly do anything more than make things a tiny bit better for a short time in a wasteland of filth and suffering.
 

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Food for thought (haha. terrible pun. I'm a dick, I know):
Those "feed the starving children" ads are awefully long... and usually run when there's a lot of eyeballs fixed on the tv. How much do those commercial spots cost? Wonder how many kids they could feed with that money.
Yeah, I know they need to "raise awareness" but is that really necessary anymore? I think we ALL know there's starving, diseased, uneducated, or whatever other pity factor kids in Africa.

More to gnaw on (what did I say earlier?):
Isn't feeding the kids sort of a dead-end? I mean, you feed them... then what? Do they have an education or resources to better their own lives now that you've provided a bowl of rice? If I'm donating money, I'd rather it be to something that has a ripple effect - like those microloans so the village can buy cattle, or someone can start their own weaving (or whatever) business.
 

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I know you have all seen at least one commercial about the starving kids in Africa, or the parent-less kids in Africa, or some kind of "feel bad about these kids who have it pretty bad" commercial. What I'd like to know, is if you actually feel bad about it.

You'd have to be a pretty cold bastard to feel absolutely nothing or a complete dickwad to say "well they shouldn't have been born in Africa then!", and I am sure you are neither. But what do you feel about the poor/starving/destitute/homeless kids in Africa?

Whenever I see those ads/commercials, I feel a bit bad for them and think "well that sucks to be them =|" but then my realism kicks in:
- I am in perma-debt right now due to a student loan I keep adding to
- There are other things I can do to support people closer to me (like homeless people in my city for example)
- I am very skeptical about whether any money donated to these ad agencies that help these poor kids actually gets to them

I do feel bad for these kids that have it rough, I feel bad for most people who have it rough; it is a basic human emotion to have empathy for people suffering. But whenever I see these ads, my morality just shrugs and says "well, nothing I can do about it" and go back to doing whatever I was doing.

My questions for you are:
Do you care about the starving kids in Africa? Why?
Do you actually do anything about it? Why?
As I am sure someone said somewhere on here before me, we can't start solving the hunger issue in other countries until we solve the hunger issues in our own country. Also an interesting thing to think about, there will always be people beneath the poverty line, because the only way for there to be rich people is to have to poor people to whom they are being compared.
 

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Torrasque said:
My questions for you are:
Do you care about the starving kids in Africa? Why?
Do you actually do anything about it? Why?
It isn't that I don't care, I just don't. Any empathy or sympathy I would feel for these children is completely overridden by the thought of "Why are African children more important? There are plenty of starving children(slash people) elsewhere". Then my cynicism goes off and I go on not trusting that organization. I then go off to donate money to an organization that is feeding starving people that isn't the Salvation Army.
 

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I feel sorry for them but I don't do anything. Not to seem cold but to put it bluntly I have my own life to live.
 

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ZacktheWolf said:
Food for thought (haha. terrible pun. I'm a dick, I know):
Those "feed the starving children" ads are awefully long... and usually run when there's a lot of eyeballs fixed on the tv. How much do those commercial spots cost? Wonder how many kids they could feed with that money.
Yeah, I know they need to "raise awareness" but is that really necessary anymore? I think we ALL know there's starving, diseased, uneducated, or whatever other pity factor kids in Africa.
How about all of those buy this product and we will donate 10 cents to this charity. Why don't they just donate the 10 cents anyway? better yet, why don't I just buy the 4 dollar cheaper store brand and donate the 4 dollars?
 

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ZacktheWolf said:
Isn't feeding the kids sort of a dead-end? I mean, you feed them... then what? Do they have an education or resources to better their own lives now that you've provided a bowl of rice? If I'm donating money, I'd rather it be to something that has a ripple effect - like those microloans so the village can buy cattle, or someone can start their own weaving (or whatever) business.
You're not the first one to bring this up, but AFAIK, that sort of thing does happen alot. There are plenty of ads trying to explain the importance of education and clean water and so on, but the ones where they say kids are starving are more evocative.

Apparently there's a gender role issue in at least some areas, you have to give the money to the women because in their culture the men don't have to be responsible, or at least in regards to the sort of things the money should be spent on, and they learned that the hard way (though really, you should find out about these things befoer you go in).

Also, I think in Ethiopia, carrying water is women's work, men aren't allowed to do it, farming is men's work, women aren't allowed to do it, so anything to do with agriculture is quietly ignored. Also in Ethiopia, IIRC, families eat in order of importance, rather than sharing food. So the parents eat first, then the firstborn, then the next and so on down the line. The person at the end gets little or nothing, so it's possible for a family to not be (that) poor and still have starving kids.
 

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I used to care. I once joined the "Feed The Kids" program my little church started for a year. It felt good at the time to believe that the money I put in the little paper boxes was going to make someone elses life just a little bit better. Then I grew up.

Now I've heard that a fair number of collectors who say the money goes to help an ailing family actually keep a certain percent to pay for more ads (though I've seen a lot of the same people/images for several years) and pay various people. It wouldn't even surprise me if the remaining money gets snatched up by the government to fund private wars or whatever little agendas they may have. Or drug cartels. Surely enough millions of dollars have been sent by now that more than one small village would have something to show for all the 'giving' being done.

So what can I really do besides move there just to hand money directly to the poor? What possible risks could there be with that besides being abducted and ransomed/killed? Or putting the family I try to help in danger of being killed for the few dollars they don't immediately spend on food and clean water?
 

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120 people die every minute, the wheel turns, nothing is ever new.

No.

Would I change it if I could with a push of a button? Of course, but I can't.
 

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LilRock1976 said:
I bet the cameraman could have given those kids in the ads a bite to eat. Just throwing it out there.
They probably did. They don't go to starving areas just to film, they go on charity missions and take a camera.

OT: Yes, I feel awful. I donate to a charity that even keeps me in correspondence with the kid I'm supporting, so I know the money goes where I want. I also donate often to specific projects with trusted charities.

I keep a supply of money from my paycheck to the side for charity, and try to reduce my goods consumption because I feel that I take too much.

And I'm heavily considering taking a YWAM (Youth With A Mission) mission to a starving area, just to spread help around.
 

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Yeah if I stop to think about it I can sympathise with them having a hard life, does it make me feel bad hell no. I'm I going to do anything nope, I'm a firm believe of pulling yourself up and honestly me donating money or even time only alleviates the symptoms it doesn't fix the underlying socio economic issues. That's why simple aide doesn't fix anything, it merely makes people more dependant.

No before someone gets the wrong idea I'm talking long term aid, of course donating to a disaster relief funds helps and people do need that short term assistance while they start to rebuild.
 

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No. I don't care.

No, I don't do anything about it. Why? Because America, fuck yeah.