Do you find incest wrong?

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OrenjiJusu

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Vivi22 said:
AngloDoom said:
I am the type of person who believes who believes that two parents who decide to have a child, knowing there's a good chance that the child will have difficulty in life are quite irresponsible.
If the parents who are aware of the risks (or not, it really doesn't even matter) have the means and the desire to care for a child born with some sort of genetic disorder then can you really say it was irresponsible of them to have a child? I don't think that's really a fair or relevant argument in such a circumstance.
I dont think he was talking about the child being cared for.
Lets say that a brother ans sister have a child, and whoops his jaw has a massive overbite and he has a lazy eye. Even if those parents care for that child like he was a prince, that child will still have a hard life. Especially while young. Children will tease even the slightest deviation from societies norms until the child cries. Think about how bad that child wil be discriminated aginst if he has a huge overbite and no-one is quite sure where hes looking.
 

martin's a madman

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No, if they are prepared to deal with the potential biological issues of shooting their DNA at eachother, then it's fine.
 

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If a person has a sexual relationship with a family member of any sort it points to an underlying problem. if you have sex with a blood sibling you have known your whole life as a blood relative it means something about your wiring on who you should and should not have sex with is messed up. This becomes complicated when siblings meet after puberty, or rarely see each other, especially when not blood relatives. by that point you have made all of you familial connections so it is very hard to see new people as "sister" instead of "woman". this is most prominent in step siblings when the parents marry and the kids are in their early teens. let's face it, if a woman my age I had never met before began living at my house we just might, given enough time, have sex even if told not to.

I hope that made sense I'm having a bit of trouble making words that make sense lately.
 

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Thought I would throw some tidbits into the ring but I can't pull the reports this late at night with such little focus. A quick Google search for incest and genetic brings back reports on studies that say it can be as low as a 2-3% increase in genetic deformities above the general population. Others show it is higher and I am just to damn tired to dig through numbers for a topic I am not that interested on, simply to inject debate into said topic.

The problem with most of these studies is they compare fictional couples where both parents carrying a genetic recessive disease and completely ignore cases where there are no pre-existing genetic diseases. This seems more an argument that known carries of a recessive gene should not breed then one against incest, per se. However, we don't have such laws on the book banning genetic disease carries from breeding, even with other genetic carries. Nor do we treat these relationships with the same distaste and moral outcry as we do incest.

In fact, we would be up in arms if the government tried to make it so you needed their permission, after gene testing, to have sex.

Yet you bring up the phantom of incest and everyone assumes the child is going to be born with two heads. There is this mis-conception that incestuous couples seem to just spawn gene based diseases, with no grounds in genetics to back it up. Just some food for thought people; genetic carries exist outside of incestuous relationships too.


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tsb247

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My past studies in psychology have led me to the conclusion that incestuous relationships can be and usually are harmful in the long term - even if between two consenting adults. The problems arise when one or both eventually fall for someone else that is not related to them, and when (not if) the family finds out. These types of relationships can also arise from a history of abuse between one or both parties involved. To my knowledge, incestuous relationships rarely develop under healthy conditions (there is usually some kind of traumatic trigger for one or both parties). Even if such a relationship does somehow develop naturally, when the rest of the family finds out, it will not likely go over well.

Sure, some people may find their sister, brother, etc. attractive, but acting on those kinds of thoughts can lead to disaster. It's best to control those kinds of thoughts and move on. There's plenty of fresh DNA in the sea.

My overall stance on incest...

It's certainly not good. It can do a LOT of damage to a family. Even if those involved consent and enjoy it, the family overall will likely not accept those actions and the end result is usually a great deal of sadness and pain. In a nutshell, it's wrong.

However...

It's not really my concern what two consenting adults do.

I'll just say it's not my thing and move on.
 

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ScreamingNinja said:
If you can look at your younger sister like this, then you've got some wires crossed somewhere. There're so many other people out there in the world, why would you even do it?

Honestly, I don't think there's an excuse for it. Something's simply not right in your head if you do this. Same if you have sex with animals. You're missing some screws.
I agree, most people do not want to have incestuous sex. Thus the minority must be wrong.
 

Jodah

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As long as there isn't any procreation involved, whatever floats your boat.
 

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Vivi22 said:
AngloDoom said:
I am the type of person who believes who believes that two parents who decide to have a child, knowing there's a good chance that the child will have difficulty in life are quite irresponsible.
If the parents who are aware of the risks (or not, it really doesn't even matter) have the means and the desire to care for a child born with some sort of genetic disorder then can you really say it was irresponsible of them to have a child? I don't think that's really a fair or relevant argument in such a circumstance.
I see it less about the parents coping with caring for the child and more for raising a child in a world where it will always be pitied and even looked down from at birth. Maybe it's just me, but when I hear about parents who say their condition is hell then choose to inflict it on a child it bugs me. If I had something wrong with me, last thing I'd want to do is pass it on to my loved ones. If parents want a child so badly, adopt a child who was throw away due to circumstance and neglect and give people already here and in terrible circumstances a fighting chance.

Again, this is all my view and I in no way think it is the one true way, but the problem I see with many parents - disabled or otherwise - is that they treat their child like a pet baby and not a person with a whole life ahead of them.
 

Ghengis John

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This is the only board in all the world that I have seen people defend bestiality , incest and pedophilia seriously and earnestly. Sometimes I wonder about you guys.
 

tycho0042

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I personally find it revolting. I can't properly explain why unfortunately. I know it's not guaranteed to happen but the idea of having some crazy birth-defective kid is less than appealing.
I remember seeing a really attractive girl at a family reunion but as soon as I heard she was a cousin *bam* turn-off
 

00Pyro

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If you love someone then you should be able to have a relationship with them.
But inter-family pregnancies can screw stuff up.
 

Tselis

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So long as both parties have been previously sterilized (thoroughly), then I see nothing wrong with it. It's when the genes begin to stagnate that problems arise.
 

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AngloDoom said:
thaluikhain said:
I dunno, never tried.

A related question, though, do you find the idea of sisters (preferably twins) having sex to be less wrong than other forms of incest? Alot of people seem to for some reason.
I imagine it's the same people who want 'lesbian girlfriends' because, y'know, they'd never cheat on them and they'd be up for a threesome.
*raises hand*

I have a lesbian girlfriend

AND ITS FREAKING AWESOME.
[sub](for many reasons other than just because she is a lesbian, but still)[/sub]

She's never cheated on me (though that's got more to do with her being a good person than with with her sexual orientation) and she totally is up for threesomes. I swear, I'm going to marry this woman.

You where saying?
 

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ChickenZombie said:
This forum right here, this thread, is exactly why people need licenses to breed...
That's pretty vague.

What do you mean?

(Honestly, I'm really not sure what you're getting at; there are a lot of ways to interpret what you just said.)
 

HDID

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"let me tell you about why I don't think having sex with an authority figure is a bad thing..." - a thing posted by like half of the people in this thread
 

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Pimppeter2 said:
AngloDoom said:
thaluikhain said:
I dunno, never tried.

A related question, though, do you find the idea of sisters (preferably twins) having sex to be less wrong than other forms of incest? Alot of people seem to for some reason.
I imagine it's the same people who want 'lesbian girlfriends' because, y'know, they'd never cheat on them and they'd be up for a threesome.
*raises hand*

I have a lesbian girlfriend

AND ITS FREAKING AWESOME.
[sub](for many reasons other than just because she is a lesbian, but still)[/sub]

She's never cheated on me (though that's got more to do with her being a good person than with with her sexual orientation) and she totally is up for threesomes. I swear, I'm going to marry this woman.

You where saying?
you have to propose more romantically than that or i'll say no. but, wow, really? thank you! :D

OP: i think incest is bad if you reproduce, and just gross otherwise. i mean, if you can grow up with someone and still want them your brain is broken.