Do you find incest wrong?

[Kingpopadopalus]

According to the bible we all descend from on father and one mother, adam and eve. If that is not example enough for you, noahs arc. I believe this conversation is done.

 

[HDID]

Perfectly fine to me, then again I'm also okay with certain forms of beastiality, pedophelia (as long as they stick to masterbation), and homosexuality. (Ironically, this is took the longest to get 100% used to)

What DOES make me slightly worried, however, is when people say that people like me have mental issues or are going to doom the future of humanity.

You just grouped people who are gay in with people who fuck children and people who fuck animals. Yeah, I think you do have some issues to sort out.

 

[madster11]

A single generation of inbreeding causes no problems, so i don't really have a problem with it unless it goes on for 2 or 3 generations, at which point the children become disadvantaged.

As for if they love each other, so be it. If you grow up together and still decide you want a relationship, and if it's mutual on both sides, that's the person business, not any of mine.
What if a brother and sister didn't grow up together? What if the first time they ever met was at a bar, and they hit it off, and only THEN discovered they were related?

So yeah. I'm fine with incest providing it's consensual from both parties.

 

[drisky]

If you love someone then you should be able to have a relationship with them.
But inter-family pregnancies can screw stuff up.

Here's the thing about that, you don't need sex to show you love someone. Most people love their families. I really just needed to put that out there.

 

[backinthepresentfuture]

i'm not really bothered by it at all, love happens and no one can stop it. just keep it private!! people do too much bitching these days :3

 

[ScreamingNinja]

If you can look at your younger sister like this, then you've got some wires crossed somewhere. There're so many other people out there in the world, why would you even do it?

Honestly, I don't think there's an excuse for it. Something's simply not right in your head if you do this. Same if you have sex with animals. You're missing some screws.

I'm glad you said it. This isn't a knee jerk reaction, either. Genetic diversity was always a good argument against it, but the fact is that it's still wrong. Emotional attachment based on what should normally be a platonic relationship is unhealthy, and will likely cause continuing emotional issues. Humans are biologically wired to subconsciously think of sex for the procreation, even if it doesn't necessarily lead to procreation. They are also biologically wired to protect genetic diversity. Therefore, if neither warning light is blinking, the wires are crossed, which means that other wires are probably crossed too.

Here's another way to look at it: Society deems it as bad, normally. It's not a societal lag like homosexuality, either; it's a severe social taboo. People normally feel remorse, not because something is necessarily bad, but because society deems it bad. If a person is not feeling remorse, they're sociopaths (sociopaths are not necessarily violent, they just don't feel remorse). If a person is feeling remorse, then that remorse is going to be causing them to function abnormally, and can leave lasting mental effects.

The two above together combine to make only a fraction of the argument against incest. This really isn't a "If it's not bothering me" type thing. Sure, I'm fine with live and let live on issues. If an incestuous relationship is occurring, it's not my job or place to deal with it. It may not be hurting me, it most certainly IS hurting someone, whether they realize it or not.

On a completely different note, the reason I quoted the above post is because he said that it's wrong. There's a lot of push nowadays to just turn your head and ignore everything so long as it isn't hurting anyone else. We need more people who are willing to just say "Yeah it's wrong." Is it hurting anyone? No. Is it still wrong? Yep.

Thanks for the back up. I was talking to a friend about it today, and he made a good point. 'If you were in a room and you knew a brother/sister combo were going at it in the next room, would you be fine with that?'

Honestly? I can't believe anyone WOULD be fine with that. And this whole 'It's their buisness!' Doesn't cut it. How could anyone simply not feel the wrong-ness of something like this? The same goes for someone having sex with an animal. No, I'm sorry. You're not a animal in a human's body. You're a human, and since you've made the choice to go have sex with an animal, then you're a fucked up human at that.

Same with incest. I look at my brothers and sisters and realize I have to protect them, Not stick my cock in them.

 

[Sunrider]

I don't really care, two consenting adults and so on.
Thinking about doing it myself makes me feel kinda sick. Although I do have one smoking hot cousin........

 

[Lim3]

Incest is wrong. My argument? A father and daughter having sex. A mother and son have sex.

And as for the people who say its okay as long as they use procreation? Are you seriously okay with the above? If you found and your sibling and parent were going at it, with a condom, would you be okay with it?

 

[viking97]

ya, as long as they have no intent to create a baby then they can do what the fuck they want. it's not like anyone is hurt by, short the people who get their panties in a twist.

 

[-Dragmire-]

According to the bible we all descend from on father and one mother, adam and eve. If that is not example enough for you, noahs arc. I believe this conversation is done.

Weird thing about Adam and Eve:

They had 2 sons, Cain and Abel

And:

Despite these later traditional beliefs of perpetual wandering, according to the earlier Book of Jubilees (chapter 4) Cain settled down, marrying his sister, Awan, resulting in his first son, Enoch (considered to be different from the more famous Enoch), approximately 196 years after the creation of Adam. Cain then established the first city, naming it after his son, built a house, and lived there until it collapsed on him, killing him in the same year that Adam died.

Weird eh?

 

[Vinculi]

Some anthropologists have argued that the incest taboo is the basis of culture, as it creates basic rules for sex, marriage and procreation.

Could it be that the number of people in this thread ok with incest indicates that modern societies are moving beyond their earlier, now seemingly obsolete, foundations? (of course, taking a thread as an indication of general society is foolish, but its an interesting question)

 

[Kingpopadopalus]

According to the bible we all descend from on father and one mother, adam and eve. If that is not example enough for you, noahs arc. I believe this conversation is done.

Weird thing about Adam and Eve:

They had 2 sons, Cain and Abel

And:

Despite these later traditional beliefs of perpetual wandering, according to the earlier Book of Jubilees (chapter 4) Cain settled down, marrying his sister, Awan, resulting in his first son, Enoch (considered to be different from the more famous Enoch), approximately 196 years after the creation of Adam. Cain then established the first city, naming it after his son, built a house, and lived there until it collapsed on him, killing him in the same year that Adam died.

Weird eh?

Or it could have been from the fact that Cain killed Abel in a jealous rage.

 

[CdnDemoniac]

If you can look at your younger sister like this, then you've got some wires crossed somewhere. There're so many other people out there in the world, why would you even do it?

Honestly, I don't think there's an excuse for it. Something's simply not right in your head if you do this. Same if you have sex with animals. You're missing some screws.

I'm glad you said it. This isn't a knee jerk reaction, either. Genetic diversity was always a good argument against it, but the fact is that it's still wrong. Emotional attachment based on what should normally be a platonic relationship is unhealthy, and will likely cause continuing emotional issues. Humans are biologically wired to subconsciously think of sex for the procreation, even if it doesn't necessarily lead to procreation. They are also biologically wired to protect genetic diversity. Therefore, if neither warning light is blinking, the wires are crossed, which means that other wires are probably crossed too.

Here's another way to look at it: Society deems it as bad, normally. It's not a societal lag like homosexuality, either; it's a severe social taboo. People normally feel remorse, not because something is necessarily bad, but because society deems it bad. If a person is not feeling remorse, they're sociopaths (sociopaths are not necessarily violent, they just don't feel remorse). If a person is feeling remorse, then that remorse is going to be causing them to function abnormally, and can leave lasting mental effects.

The two above together combine to make only a fraction of the argument against incest. This really isn't a "If it's not bothering me" type thing. Sure, I'm fine with live and let live on issues. If an incestuous relationship is occurring, it's not my job or place to deal with it. It may not be hurting me, it most certainly IS hurting someone, whether they realize it or not.

On a completely different note, the reason I quoted the above post is because he said that it's wrong. There's a lot of push nowadays to just turn your head and ignore everything so long as it isn't hurting anyone else. We need more people who are willing to just say "Yeah it's wrong." Is it hurting anyone? No. Is it still wrong? Yep.

What? What's your basis for morality then (in regards to your last line)? The reason that alot of people ignore an issue like this as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else is because that's the only indicator that something is bad on a moral spectrum. Why is it still wrong then? Because you think so? Because society thinks so? Because religion thinks so?

If someone doesn't agree with (often arbitrary, though not in this case) social norms and doesn't feel guilty about that doesn't make them a sociopath. Sociopaths are those who are unable to feel remorse or empathy at all. Practicing something like incest is a far stretch from that.

 

[FuzzyRaccoon]

I believe such people should be sterilized, so they cannot bring a child into that union. That would make it so wrong and disgusting.

Otherwise, what they do behind closed doors is none of my concern.

 

[Yoshemo]

As long as no children are made from it and none of it is forced or coerced then ots fine. If two people really love each other, who am I to say they can't be in love?

 

[InfiniteSingularity]

Why would I care who people have sex with? If you find your sister attractive...well, it's a bit weird, but I'm not gonna judge. Do what the fuck you want

 

[llubtoille]

So long as it does not create a child (gotta keep up that genetic diversity after all) i don't particularly mind.

Pretty much,
Tho more for the immediate childs sake than concern for long term genetic stagnation.

 

[Firetaffer]

The act of having sex and loving a brother/sister? Not at all.
The act of having children with a brother/sister? Yes, solely because of the possible case of that child being ill in one way or another.

 

[-Dragmire-]

According to the bible we all descend from on father and one mother, adam and eve. If that is not example enough for you, noahs arc. I believe this conversation is done.

Weird thing about Adam and Eve:

They had 2 sons, Cain and Abel

And:

Despite these later traditional beliefs of perpetual wandering, according to the earlier Book of Jubilees (chapter 4) Cain settled down, marrying his sister, Awan, resulting in his first son, Enoch (considered to be different from the more famous Enoch), approximately 196 years after the creation of Adam. Cain then established the first city, naming it after his son, built a house, and lived there until it collapsed on him, killing him in the same year that Adam died.

Weird eh?

Or it could have been from the fact that Cain killed Abel in a jealous rage.

I was kind of adding to your comment on descending from Adam and Eve with the quote containing Cain marrying his sister and having a kid... I took the whole quote because I felt it was an interesting read.

With that in mind, I'm not sure what Cain killing Abel has to do with this.

 

[InfiniteSingularity]

If you can look at your younger sister like this, then you've got some wires crossed somewhere. There're so many other people out there in the world, why would you even do it?

Honestly, I don't think there's an excuse for it. Something's simply not right in your head if you do this. Same if you have sex with animals. You're missing some screws.

I'm glad you said it. This isn't a knee jerk reaction, either. Genetic diversity was always a good argument against it, but the fact is that it's still wrong. Emotional attachment based on what should normally be a platonic relationship is unhealthy, and will likely cause continuing emotional issues. Humans are biologically wired to subconsciously think of sex for the procreation, even if it doesn't necessarily lead to procreation. They are also biologically wired to protect genetic diversity. Therefore, if neither warning light is blinking, the wires are crossed, which means that other wires are probably crossed too.

Here's another way to look at it: Society deems it as bad, normally. It's not a societal lag like homosexuality, either; it's a severe social taboo. People normally feel remorse, not because something is necessarily bad, but because society deems it bad. If a person is not feeling remorse, they're sociopaths (sociopaths are not necessarily violent, they just don't feel remorse). If a person is feeling remorse, then that remorse is going to be causing them to function abnormally, and can leave lasting mental effects.

The two above together combine to make only a fraction of the argument against incest. This really isn't a "If it's not bothering me" type thing. Sure, I'm fine with live and let live on issues. If an incestuous relationship is occurring, it's not my job or place to deal with it. It may not be hurting me, it most certainly IS hurting someone, whether they realize it or not.

On a completely different note, the reason I quoted the above post is because he said that it's wrong. There's a lot of push nowadays to just turn your head and ignore everything so long as it isn't hurting anyone else. We need more people who are willing to just say "Yeah it's wrong." Is it hurting anyone? No. Is it still wrong? Yep.

A lot of arbitrary ideas here. You seem to have a very one sided view on human nature. It sounds like you just made up a lot of bullshit to try and justify your point.

I don't see anything inherently "wrong" with it. It may be a bit "weird", or "strange", and the ethics may be questionable, but I don't see how it can be absolutely wrong. There's no rule that says it's hurting someone, no matter what - that's all bullshit as well.

This is a very idealistic and one sided argument. "We need more people to say it's wrong". Why? Why do we need to care about people's personal/family affairs? If it makes people happy, why take it away from them because of some arbitrary idea that it's just inherently "wrong"? I think that's wrong

Incest is wrong. My argument? A father and daughter having sex. A mother and son have sex.

And as for the people who say its okay as long as they use procreation? Are you seriously okay with the above? If you found and your sibling and parent were going at it, with a condom, would you be okay with it?

I wouldn't want them using procreation. But as long as they're using protection it's fine.

When incest crosses generations I'll be honest I find it sick. Yeah I think it's wrong. But I don't care, and I'm not about to tell people it's wrong. There's no fact, only opinion. Benefit of the doubt.