Do you get angry/annoyed when people disrespect your country's flag?

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DracoSuave

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Disrespecting the flag is a form of contempt for that country and its actions.

By legistlating the act and making it illegal, you make having contempt for the country illegal. Without disrespect and contempt being legal, you've essentially outlawed the two most important forms of free speech in any country that seeks to be free of tyranny.
 

Apollo45

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Honestly, yes it does. As much as I'd like to say it's just a piece of fabric, to me it stands for something more than that. When people of other countries do it, I can understand that they're trying to protest something, and whether I agree with them or not I can respect that. It's more when the people in my country (I'm American, by the way) show the flag disrespect; dragging it on the ground or whatever else.

You can say it's just a piece of fabric, and you can say that the fact you happened to be born on a random piece of land within the States doesn't matter, but to me it does. I believe in what the country stands for; not what people will construe from what the government has done in the past, or what the stereotype for what Americans is, but what the country was founded on, what it's supposed to stand for on freedom, acceptance, and equality.

The flag has been so important in the past because it served as a symbol of unification. Obviously things are not perfect, and there have been mistakes made, but the flag itself, in its base form, serves to show that the people of the United States, be they originally from Europe, Asia, Africa, or wherever else, all form a part of the single nation that is (on paper) devoted to making sure those people have an equal and strong opportunity to become the best they can be. Without the flag serving as that symbol of unification, what would it be? We all come from different places, we all live in different places, we have different accents, we have different cultures, and so on and so forth. The flag serves to show that, whatever combination of those things makes up you, you're a part of something bigger, along with your neighbors and their neighbors and their neighbors and so on, and you're not alone.

Rather idealistic of me, isn't it?
 

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Mr Thin said:
A surprising number of Escapists are failing to grasp the simple notion of symbolism. Strange, you're usually a pretty smart bunch.
I don't think people are failing to see the symbolism, but failing are just failing to care.

I don't think the English flag represents anything apart from "this is English", simply because there is no culture of respecting the flag. It's more a football symbol than anything now. If someone tried to insult me by burning my flag, I think I'd be more confused than anything.

A lot of people in England aren't patriotic, so burning the symbol of their country is like burning a Bible in front of a Hindu for most.
 

weker

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It's a flag a piece of material I couldn't care if someone wiped their arse on it.
I personally dislike the silly meaning people give items they have no involvement with excluding living there.
 

Casual Shinji

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I might if it actually happened, but the majority of the world doesn't care enough about Holland to hate it.
 

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AngloDoom said:
Mr Thin said:
A surprising number of Escapists are failing to grasp the simple notion of symbolism. Strange, you're usually a pretty smart bunch.
I don't think people are failing to see the symbolism, but failing are just failing to care.

I don't think the English flag represents anything apart from "this is English", simply because there is no culture of respecting the flag. It's more a football symbol than anything now. If someone tried to insult me by burning my flag, I think I'd be more confused than anything.

A lot of people in England aren't patriotic, so burning the symbol of their country is like burning a Bible in front of a Hindu for most.
I think that if you live in a peaceful, wealthy and powerful country then you should be proud enough about the quality of life it provides for you that you should have patriotism towards it. Though the flag is just a piece of cloth, it is just a symbolical representation of the ideals and culture of the country and the people that live in it, destroying it no more gets rid of what it represents than an insane person getting rid of the sun by writing "darkness" on the walls of his cell. You should take pride in what the flag represents but the flag itself is just an inanimate object with no feelings on the matter, destroying it is going to do jack shit to the safety of your country.

Basically like your country, but don't care too much about the flag is what I'm saying.
 

Zmerc

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Dan Comber said:
I don't care, because in the UK we have the Queen to respect instead of the flag.
I thought the queen only spends your guy's tax dollars on worthless fancy shit.
 

Mr Thin

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AngloDoom said:
Mr Thin said:
A surprising number of Escapists are failing to grasp the simple notion of symbolism. Strange, you're usually a pretty smart bunch.
I don't think people are failing to see the symbolism, but failing are just failing to care.

I don't think the English flag represents anything apart from "this is English", simply because there is no culture of respecting the flag. It's more a football symbol than anything now. If someone tried to insult me by burning my flag, I think I'd be more confused than anything.

A lot of people in England aren't patriotic, so burning the symbol of their country is like burning a Bible in front of a Hindu for most.
No, I get that. I understand that many people aren't particularly patriotic these days (frankly, there isn't that much to be patriotic about these days). If you wouldn't be insulted if someone burned the flag in front of you, that's fine.

But you would at least understand why they expected you to be insulted. And some of the posters here don't seem to understand that, tossing out comments like "it's just cloth, what's the big deal". That's what I was talking about.
 

Dan Comber

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Zmerc said:
Dan Comber said:
I don't care, because in the UK we have the Queen to respect instead of the flag.
I thought the queen only spends your guy's tax dollars on worthless fancy shit.
Excuse me! I think you'd better calm down there sir. The Queen is the QUEEN. Love her!
 

apex2000

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I wish i had the luxury. but my country's goverment ENGLAND has no respect for it, infact during the world cup, they ordered us to take our flags down as it was offensive to all the various indias, arabs, africans etc... who consider the England and Union Jack flags, In ENGLAND to be racist.

Im not even kidding 1 guy was threatened with legal action for having an england flag on his houseand several people who work for same company as me, got approached by council as they had a lil england flag on there cars.


... this was all when england was in semi-finals in football/soccer by the way... one few times people make the effort anymore (kinda sad but what they got to be proud of)



I bet you americans if some guy from over seas told you, your not allowed to fly that flag, wouldnt be too happy?
 

Sarcastic_Applause

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Do i get annoyed when people disrespect my country's flag?
Well, considering i'm from the United Kingdom, if people want to disrespect my country, go right ahead, i'll probably end up criticising this country's flag too.

I don't see the union flag as something worth defending; i stand for the ideals of Democracy and the Personal freedoms it bestows upon it's citizens, regardless of what flag i stand under
 

GiantRaven

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The only time a flag should be respected is if it is of specific historical importance. And I mean a singular flag object here, not the concept of a flag or any old flag you could buy in a shop.
 

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I'm not at all patriotic, so no, I don't really get too passionate when I see a little tear in the flag, ans I have never (nor will I ever) understand why burning a flag is meant to be very disrespectful. It's not like burning a book; a book has somebody's thoughts and emotions within its pages. A flag is a representation that a given piece of land is occupied.
 

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No I don't, what can I say? I don't hold that much pride toward my country flag.