I'll say memes, because their purpose is to be the inside jokes for internet nerds without friends to have inside jokes with. Them being popular with everyone took that away in my opinion.
Do you hate something because its popular?
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I go a level deeper, I like things because it's popular to hate them. I'm a geek geek, so whereas a lot of people in Geek culture define themselves in some ways in opposition to other people, I'm one step withdrawn even from that and do the same with that culture as if _it_ were the social norm
I reckon my level of enjoyment with a film is roughly equal to most people's but I interpret my feelings to go outside whatever the norm is, because I deep down hate defining myself in terms of other people and like to look the other way. So for example I was very entertained by The Avengers but because most people wanted to love that film, I prefer to focus on it;s failures rather than it;s successes.
...it makes me doubt myself sometimes. Because I enjoyed the ending to ME3, I really did and when the EC came out I uninstalled it because it ruined that vision of the story I have in my head that I love. But that runs very naturally with how I would be naturally inclined to think, so can it be genuine?
I'm also trying to bring my mind in with the logic that millions and millions of people love Twilight, CoD and Transformers and pay to see them and have a good time, and apart from some slightly iffy morals, these things aren't doing any harm and surely there should be some definition of good that can encompass something that brings millions of people pleasure?
I reckon my level of enjoyment with a film is roughly equal to most people's but I interpret my feelings to go outside whatever the norm is, because I deep down hate defining myself in terms of other people and like to look the other way. So for example I was very entertained by The Avengers but because most people wanted to love that film, I prefer to focus on it;s failures rather than it;s successes.
...it makes me doubt myself sometimes. Because I enjoyed the ending to ME3, I really did and when the EC came out I uninstalled it because it ruined that vision of the story I have in my head that I love. But that runs very naturally with how I would be naturally inclined to think, so can it be genuine?
I'm also trying to bring my mind in with the logic that millions and millions of people love Twilight, CoD and Transformers and pay to see them and have a good time, and apart from some slightly iffy morals, these things aren't doing any harm and surely there should be some definition of good that can encompass something that brings millions of people pleasure?
I'm hipster so I almost entirely agree with except system being samey sounding and faux metal, that makes me just say wat?Imthatguy said:
I disliked things for their popularity before it was cool to dislike popular things. Seriously did, since like age 8. But currently topping my list are; reality TV, Borderlands, hatred against that anti-islam movie, and just about any popular fiction novel.
"you hate it because its popular" is just a bullshit tacit for people to defend games and movies they know are widely scoffed at as bad and cant come up with a defense for it without just lying.Vault101 said:
No one hate cod because its popular, no one hates transformers because it popular.
they hate them because its garbage.
the only people who hate popular things are probably hipsters who can kiss my ass anyway, and make up like a fraction of a percentage of a wide spread opinion to not even make a blip on a radar so high tech, it could pick up minnow farts.
oh yeah, those guys rock. best songs is Solitaire Unraveling and Sun doesnt Rise.Imthatguy said:
EDIT: Why would my text not show up?BarbaricGoose said:Calibanbutcher said:
OK, once again:
Then let us end this War of Simons and give this thread time to recover from the massive derailment.
No, of course I don't hate things because they are popular; that is inane. I take the time to look at something based on it's own merits, then decided whether or not I like it based on those merits. To do otherwise is incredibly silly and foolish, and I really don't understand the mentality that would drive someone to do so. :\
Usually. I hate to say that but it's the truth.
The logic is this: if it's popular, it stands to reason that it's liked by a majority. Read: mainstream. I don't hate things like say, MGS, which is popular amongst the gaming community, because that's a majority of a group. I'm talking about like... the majority of society.
And the majority of society are usually ignorant to certain things, e.g. in books what makes good writing, characters and plot. So they like Twilight, 50 Shades, other crap like that. This is why I hate it. Because it's popular, but not extremely awesome, because it's so bad. So I can safely assume I'll hate it.
I did actually read New Moon without having read any of the other books in the series and it was readable, but samey all the way through... it was a generally BORING read.
The logic is this: if it's popular, it stands to reason that it's liked by a majority. Read: mainstream. I don't hate things like say, MGS, which is popular amongst the gaming community, because that's a majority of a group. I'm talking about like... the majority of society.
And the majority of society are usually ignorant to certain things, e.g. in books what makes good writing, characters and plot. So they like Twilight, 50 Shades, other crap like that. This is why I hate it. Because it's popular, but not extremely awesome, because it's so bad. So I can safely assume I'll hate it.
I did actually read New Moon without having read any of the other books in the series and it was readable, but samey all the way through... it was a generally BORING read.
I have perfectly valid reasons for hating things, but when I see everyone around me pretty much worshipping the stuff I hate and backing me into a small corner, it makes me hate it even more.
It's like, "How the actual fuck can you like this shite? Has everyone been replaced with mindless zombies who can't think for themselves any more?"
Different strokes for different folks, but when something is so clearly terrible, I can't understand why anyone would like it.
Let me use Chris Brown for an example, and his fans who defend him from the people who dare to not like his music and call him out on beating the shit out of a woman. Saying they wouldn't care if he beat them. Why he's still in the spotlight, I don't know and why those women who say they wouldn't mind being beaten by him haven't been slapped in the face several times, I still don't know
It's like, "How the actual fuck can you like this shite? Has everyone been replaced with mindless zombies who can't think for themselves any more?"
Different strokes for different folks, but when something is so clearly terrible, I can't understand why anyone would like it.
Let me use Chris Brown for an example, and his fans who defend him from the people who dare to not like his music and call him out on beating the shit out of a woman. Saying they wouldn't care if he beat them. Why he's still in the spotlight, I don't know and why those women who say they wouldn't mind being beaten by him haven't been slapped in the face several times, I still don't know