Do you hate the game or the people who play it?

[jacobschndr]

Please keep in mind this is not trying to be a thread about the same old topic "Halo is better because..." or "Mewtwo is out does everything else cause..." so please dont start that shit here OK?

OK so the I was talking to a buddy of mine and he said he cant stand playing a game like Halo. I asked why is that? In my mind I think Halo and all its sequels are pretty good games. the controls are easy to handle, the gameplay is fast and intense, the level design is nice, the story...uh, well its nothing fantastic by any means but you like to see it to the end anyways. All in all pretty well rounded game. definitely a game any 360 owner would have in his or her stack.

But my buddy says its not the game, its the people who play it that piss him off. He catogorizes(sp) gamers of the halo games as being "jock-headed-douchebags" who cant play any complex game because it would "overwhelm them". First i asked am I one of these so called douchebags? Second, you cant label everyone who plays one particular game a lesser or worse person than you just becasue the few people you do know who play that game (minus me of course) are assholes. Thats prejudice, hell thats video game Bigotry!

But my question is do you feel the same way? Do you think some games are ruined because of the people who play them or do you think its wrong to judge someone for who they are casue of the games they play?

 

[Tiswas]

For me it tends to be both. Poor game + Obnoxious fanboys/fangirls = Hate.

For example Kingdom Hearts. Loved the first one. Second one was 'ok' and thought the Organisation was just poor generic badass pretty boys (and a single girl whom is killed off.)

And then we had the DS game. Which was poor + Boring 'badass' pretty boys + Annoying Fangirls made me hate the series so much.

Here's hoping the 3DS one rectifies that.

 

[Cherry Cola]

There will always be douchebags online, and unless we're talking MMORPG's here, it's hard to avoid them. So if you don't like a certain type of people who play online multiplayer games, going so far as to claim that they make games shitty, multiplayer games probably isn't your thing.

Or you are like me, and try to blame others for your lack of skill.

Either way, not recommended to play online games with a mindset like that.

 

[Raikov]

Like it was with Modern Warfare 1... great game, then the hoard of assholes came along to n00btube and use varying wallhacks/aimbots.

And then the same happened with Modern Warfare 2.

At least they were both good for awhile.

 

[Shock and Awe]

I never really had much of a problem with people in Halo 3's multipalyer, most of the time they are decent people, I have encountered way more assholes in Call of Duty than Halo. But besides annoyances I have never had a game "ruined" because of people who play it.

 

[Meggiepants]

I've heard this argument before about Halo and I don't get it. Primarily because I don't understand how a bunch of 12 year old boys could be jock-like. And if you are 12 and can kick everyone's ass at Halo, I don't think you are being overwhelmed by complexity. You are just uncannily good at this game.

Sounds to me a bit like sour grapes. I pretty much suck at Halo, but I still enjoy playing with a bunch of my buddies. Mostly because it's a fun little shooter.

But I understand why people say stuff like this. Random matchmaking can make even the sweetest grapes seem sour.

Friends don't let friends matchmake.

 

[The Procrastinated End]

It all depends, multiplayer games usually mean I hate the people, solo games mean I usually hate the game.

 

[Cheery Lunatic]

Kingdom Hearts has the worst fanbase ever. The games itself are okay, but whatever lukewarm appreciation I had for them was driven out by the squealing fangirls. I'm tried of walking around school all day seeing overweight chicks with terribly teased hair, wearing KH shirts, and giggling about their smexy Roxas.

I'm not proud of it, but there ya have it. I'm only human.

 

[teqrevisited]

Definitely the people.

CoD1 had its' Bren-whores; hopeless morons that waddle around with what is basically a fully automatic sniper rifle and think that holding the trigger down will kill you even if you're round the corner.

I didn't play much of 2 but in MW it got alot worse. Namely martyrdom and, to a lesser extent, the P90. Fair enough the idea of 'Area Denial' is a good, tactical one in the form of claymore mines and C4, but dropping a grenade when you die? Really? To be fair all frag grenades in MW are overabundant and the game would have been much better if they were more restricted. Noob tubes too.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

When it's a mostly multiplayer game like Halo 3 or Modern Warfare 2, then having an atrocious community can kill the game, which it often does. See, if the game is filled to the top with people who constantly trash talk or little kids, then I don't want to play it. Also, with all the spawn killers and dual wielding shotguns, it doesn't matter that I can have a mute button. I know that not everyone goes off doing that kind of stuff, but the people who do ruin the game.

 

[Woodsey]

I don't play multiplayer in games that much, so I'm not really bothered by them. Outside of that (in a forum, say) they still don't bother me particularly. Personally I'm not a fanboy to any games.

On a completely unrelated note, Mafia is the best game in the world and you should all bow before it's glory.

 

[LC Wynter]

MW2. It's rabid pack of dogs fanbase, it's moronic developers and the game itself.
Pardon me for the hate.

Though I did enjoy the original Call of Duty and the original Modern Warfare. Good game, terrible sequel.

 

[Ertol]

Depends, for example I've never really had too much of a problem with players on Halo 3, I just don't like the game. On the other hand I'm starting to hate some Starcraft 2 players. There comes a point when hearing "It's the greatest game ever made" gets really annoying.

 

[Rarhnor]

I don't care if it IS predijuce. I have had nothing, but bad experiences with Halo and its community.

 

[Cynical skeptic]

I'm old enough to have been playing video games before halo. Since I wasn't trapped in the xbox's walled garden, I was able to recognize it as nothing special. Compared to PC shooters, it was slow, clunky, and overly reliant on auto-aim and "movement" reduction schemes (regenerating health, low inventory, "cover") to generate the illusion console controls didn't completely suck for first person shooters. Everything it didn't rip from tribes existed only to shoehorn first person shooters into the xbox.

So between halo never being anything special, launching whats going to be at least fifteen years of copycat game design (more if the motion control fad doesn't die soon), and a rabidly ignorant fanbase... Both.

 

[Lord Mountbatten Reborn]

A horrific fanbase can put me off. But hey, I can completely circumvent having to deal with that fanbase by sticking to the singleplayer campaigns. I've always seen multiplayer as a tacked-on attraction (if someone says the singleplayer is bad, but the multiplayer is good, I don't care, overall the game is bad).

Yes, it's nice if both aspects of a game are good, but the overall game should be judged on the singleplayer campaign. So in that regard, it is stupid to hate the game because of the people that play it. You should hate the game because it's shit instead. I loved the multiplayer on CoD: United Offensive in a way I have never loved multiplayer since though, which makes the game in general a rare gem.

Games that are specifically multiplayer are ones I can avoid and don't mind. In this case, you probably will end up hating the game if you hate the people playing it. MAG, Unreal Tournament (I know Unreal has singleplayer campaigns, but we all know it's mainly for the multiplayer) etc. There's only so much fun you can have on your own in such games, and if you find the fanbase awful, you probably won't have much fun with the game in general.

I don't play MMORPGs mainly because of the fear of losing life-force to them, and because of the fact that there are other people in them. However, due to the fact that one doesn't necessarily require you to interact with real people, I think the game and the people can be kept separate when judging it. So, if I'd played WoW and liked the grinding and questing etc. but not the people, I still liked the grinding and questing, because not of all of it requires people (I know they have the dungeons and the bosses that require teamwork, but that doesn't make up the entire game right?).

Anyways, those are my subjective thoughts.

 

[L4hlborg]

I've met most of my online friends in Halo 3 matchmaking. Calling everyone playing it idiots is well... idiotic.

People often forget that there is a cure for idiots in a multiplayer game: The magical mute button.


Squeeking child? Mute.
Drunken idiot telling that America makes better cars than Finland? Mute.
A guy telling you to shut up? Mute.
Idiot claiming you to be a noob for killing him with a "noob" gun? Mute.
People speaking in a foreign language and you can't understand shit? Mute.

The possiblities are endless.

 

[Bellvedere]

I don't play a whole lot of games online, though the ones I play are mostly pc games since I can't really afford xboxlive subscription. I think halo is a damn fine game, since the op used it in their example, it's simple, has basic rules, has decent balance, I had plenty of fun playing this game with friends who ranged from absolutely awesome to "I've never played a video game before so I'm going to spin in a circle firing widely". I find that sometimes the community really does ruin a game though. I find it's less of the "douchbag jocks" and more of the people that just have a superiority complex. I'm not an amazing gamer and I think people should expect that not everyone that plays online is. I find that in games idiots are often more entertaining then people that take a game completely seriously. For me at least playing games is all about fun, and fun isn't serious business. Sure a good challenge can be great but playing online can also be about the social experience.

Gaming is becoming more mainstream and as such it is facing the same issues that other forms of art are, like bands that are ridiculously popular or movies that have enormous budgets and are shown at every cinema. Just because something is popular doesn't make it lame. It's the people that think they're above the general consensus that ruin what is great but also accessible.