Oh, I acknowledge the existence of love. I never said it didn't exist.Vault101 said:That's more or less what I mean by love.[/B]Johnny Impact said:
well it DOES exist then...mabye not for you
I said I don't believe in it.
Do you "owe" your parents grandchildren?
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I said I don't believe in it.
you know...somones attitude can have a big effect on their life..Johnny Impact said:Oh, I acknowledge the existence of love. I never said it didn't exist.Vault101 said:That's more or less what I mean by love.[/B]Johnny Impact said:
well it DOES exist then...mabye not for you
I said I don't believe in it.
just saying
No. My parents may be the reason I'm alive, but that doesn't mean I owe them my uterus.
Then again, my siblings all have kids of their own, so a lot of the pressure is off, at least from my parents. But one of my sisters can't fucking stop. Stomach ache? "HURR DURR ARE YOU PREGNANT?" Stomach flu? "HURR DURR ARE YOU PREGNANT?" Eating a bit more for dinner one time because I'm hungry? "HURR DURR ARE YOU PREGNANT?" And never fucking dropping the subject.
Then again, my siblings all have kids of their own, so a lot of the pressure is off, at least from my parents. But one of my sisters can't fucking stop. Stomach ache? "HURR DURR ARE YOU PREGNANT?" Stomach flu? "HURR DURR ARE YOU PREGNANT?" Eating a bit more for dinner one time because I'm hungry? "HURR DURR ARE YOU PREGNANT?" And never fucking dropping the subject.
Lord no !
Having kids requires so much dedication, time, love, you and your partner need to be 100% committed. Putting pressure on someone else to have kids is SO SO SO wrong.
Hell, it's not like we have kingdoms to keep ruling and alliances to make...
I don't want kids and I know my mother will probably be a bit sad because she is head over heels in love with her grandson (my nephew). But since my sister want more of them...
Oh, and one time my aunt (who has a son and a daughter) told me : "it's not the same when it's your daughter, it's even more special." So yeah.
Having kids requires so much dedication, time, love, you and your partner need to be 100% committed. Putting pressure on someone else to have kids is SO SO SO wrong.
Hell, it's not like we have kingdoms to keep ruling and alliances to make...
I don't want kids and I know my mother will probably be a bit sad because she is head over heels in love with her grandson (my nephew). But since my sister want more of them...
Oh, and one time my aunt (who has a son and a daughter) told me : "it's not the same when it's your daughter, it's even more special." So yeah.
Erm... no. All I owe my parents is thanks and love for what they've done for me since I was born (I love my parents a lot)
But in no way would I ever feel pressured to have children for them or anyone but me and my partner (through joint agreement if only we both want one)
I actually have a child and another on the way, it's never crossed my mind that I was owing my parents something or doing it for them. I was doing it for me and my partner because it's what we both wanted.
Anyone who pressures anyone else into have a child is fucking disgusting imo.
But in no way would I ever feel pressured to have children for them or anyone but me and my partner (through joint agreement if only we both want one)
I actually have a child and another on the way, it's never crossed my mind that I was owing my parents something or doing it for them. I was doing it for me and my partner because it's what we both wanted.
Anyone who pressures anyone else into have a child is fucking disgusting imo.
Well, with one son who is gay, and another that hasn't even been on a date ever, I think they will have given up by the time I find a girl myself.
Which is good because right now I don't want a kid.
Besides they already have 4 grandchildren from my step-dad's kids that we only see once or twice a year (Thanksgiving and Christmas)
Which is good because right now I don't want a kid.
Besides they already have 4 grandchildren from my step-dad's kids that we only see once or twice a year (Thanksgiving and Christmas)
It certainly seems like it, every conversation with my mother eventually boils down to "Where are my grandchildren Chris?? I don't see the appeal quite frankly. Children are screaming poop machines and every single one of them looks like Winston Churchill.
My parents have generally allowed me to do what I like, and in all honesty, I'd like kids. At some point in my thirties.
That said, if my parents started helicoptering and puppeteering me, that would lead to one of the few blue moon rare situations where I would give my own mother a loud and derisive "haha, fuck off!"
That said, if my parents started helicoptering and puppeteering me, that would lead to one of the few blue moon rare situations where I would give my own mother a loud and derisive "haha, fuck off!"
Thankfully, my brother has that covered pretty well. He took to married life and fatherhood like a duck to water (he never was happy as a drunken redneck troublemaker... he was mostly just bored back then)... me, though...
I think my mother realizes I'm just too weird (and damaged) to stick with one woman or raise kids. Might have worked back when I was a lonely geek with rather poor self-esteem, but not since I've proverbially been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding. Also, I spent quite a few years as a highly desirable (not literal) man-whore.
I think my mother realizes I'm just too weird (and damaged) to stick with one woman or raise kids. Might have worked back when I was a lonely geek with rather poor self-esteem, but not since I've proverbially been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding. Also, I spent quite a few years as a highly desirable (not literal) man-whore.
I love my parents, and when my mother says one day she'd love to have grandchildren, I feel a little guilty.
That partially stems from the fact she's always had a tight-knit family, and I think she'd make a wonderful grandmother. I'm just definitely not at that stage, nor sure when I would be. She's never, ever pushed me towards it though, she just likes the idea.
You rock mom.
That partially stems from the fact she's always had a tight-knit family, and I think she'd make a wonderful grandmother. I'm just definitely not at that stage, nor sure when I would be. She's never, ever pushed me towards it though, she just likes the idea.
You rock mom.
You have made a lot of threads lately havent you
My parents actaully had a child recently, so now im 22 years old have a 5 years old sister. go figure. On that account, they dont think i owe them any, altrough they do sound quite pushy when talking about girls (no prearanging, more like "you must find one").
So i guess the answer is no, i dont owe them anything. i do not plan to have children, ever. It is possible that my plans will change, i dont deny it, but not in any soon future. There are many many reasons why i would not want to have any children and will work hard agaisnt having them. I cant udnerstand why anyone would want one. i understand when it happens accidentaly, but why would you want one?
When i finished writting this message my mom came in and said "start loosing weight i want healthy grandchildren". i just started laughing uncontrollably till she left.
My parents actaully had a child recently, so now im 22 years old have a 5 years old sister. go figure. On that account, they dont think i owe them any, altrough they do sound quite pushy when talking about girls (no prearanging, more like "you must find one").
So i guess the answer is no, i dont owe them anything. i do not plan to have children, ever. It is possible that my plans will change, i dont deny it, but not in any soon future. There are many many reasons why i would not want to have any children and will work hard agaisnt having them. I cant udnerstand why anyone would want one. i understand when it happens accidentaly, but why would you want one?
When i finished writting this message my mom came in and said "start loosing weight i want healthy grandchildren". i just started laughing uncontrollably till she left.
Ha-nope. I would like kids though, but because I want to not because it's what my parent's want. If my twue wuv puts me in a gay relationship, adoption is always a thing. And if I never meet someone suitable, then ciest la vie.Vault101 said:
This was obviously going to be a thread where everyone agrees...
I'll play devils advocate. Yes, yes you do.
I'll play devils advocate. Yes, yes you do.
My mom's weird about this subject. On one hand, she acts like if I come home and tell her I got a girl pregnant or if my sister calls and says she's pregnant she'll cut off my/my sister's boyfriend's you-know-what. But on the other hand, every time she sees a cute baby she's always like, "Aw, I want another one," or talks about how my kids would most likely have brown hair or how adorable mine or Cassie's kids would be.
Yeah...if that's not mom code for "I want grandbabies" I don't know what is.
Yeah...if that's not mom code for "I want grandbabies" I don't know what is.
Not me, nah.
I've pretty much told my parents that I have no intention of having children. I may adopt or foster later in my life, but I point-blank refuse to breed. They've two grandchildren from my younger sister (and eventually more from my younger brother) so they've no shortage of shorties to spoil.
I think I've staved off a lot of the pressure to have children (at least on my parents end). I told them, honestly, that while I won't pass on their blood, I will pass on their ideals and teachings. I find those to be more valuable anyway.
I've pretty much told my parents that I have no intention of having children. I may adopt or foster later in my life, but I point-blank refuse to breed. They've two grandchildren from my younger sister (and eventually more from my younger brother) so they've no shortage of shorties to spoil.
I think I've staved off a lot of the pressure to have children (at least on my parents end). I told them, honestly, that while I won't pass on their blood, I will pass on their ideals and teachings. I find those to be more valuable anyway.
Owe? Fuck no! I might have kids some day on my own terms, but accidents do happen.. Having children just so my mother could call herself gandma and could pinch my kids cheeks twice a month doesn't seem like a good enough reason to make such a commitment.
Absolutely not.
Having children for the sake of continuing genetic lineage is what creates overpopulation.
Having children for the sake of continuing genetic lineage is what creates overpopulation.