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Lightknight

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I don't seriously consider an end of civilization scenario. But I am concerned about something causing like a month or two month long disaster. As such I do have a couple life straws (I camp/hike anyways which means I can have water with me anywhere there's a water source and they're cheap, so why not since water is so important while being simultaneously dangerous in nature) and my diet does include rice, cereals and such which should get me through a couple months with rationing even without gathering food on my own. Protein would be the trickiest part so I'd have to be ultra conservative with what little canned goods I have but I do have a pond with fish in it in case of emergency. I consider the worst case scenario being one of those solar flares functioning as an EMP that simply disrupts our tech rather than some conspiracy theory or virus.

But as far as serious year over year planning? Not really. I haven't even purchased one of those seed containers that have seeds that make plants you can then harvest more seeds from. That's really the only way to do it. Something like buckwheat and peanuts would be ideal because they are high protein and nutrient restoring. But if I really cared about this sort of stuff I would already have been farming it in order to get to heirloom seed status after a couple generations of growth cycles where the harvested seeds are from plants that adapted to my region. If I really believed in some kind of impending doom I'd be doing that. I don't believe in that so instead I get to go home and enjoy life.

If anything, I prep by acquiring knowledge. Like how to turn a branch of certain trees into a super effective water purification setup. Or what already grows naturally on my property that I can use for other purposes (like a chinese tallow tree that I can use for candles or the Tung trees I can use for furniture varnish).

As for prepping for when I'm out and about? I've got a couple things in my car that could get me through a couple days but the hope is I spend those couple days getting somewhere i need to be (like home).
 
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omega 616 said:
As I started reading I thought "this guy is an American" and then clicked the spoiler and BAM "I grew up in the Bronx".

Americans have this paranoia about them, maybe it's all the disaster movies that always wipe out the statue of liberty and/or the golden gate bridge, maybe it's the rampant shootings but whatever it is you all seem to have it.

I'm in the UK and know of nobody who is a "prepper", maybe that's us not thinking ahead or that we don't live near anything that could effect us (no volcanoes, fault lines and never get huge tornadoes), we have pretty good infrastructure, so it's not like gas, electricity or water cut off a lot. We have psycho's and gangs, who have guns but it's rare and the gangs aren't large, 20 to 30 at most.

I have a pair of gloves that have hardened knuckles, designed for motocross that I use as a "just in case" and I have a punch bag that I hit on a little (not like I am doing even 10 minute sessions, just 2 or 3 minutes every 2 or 3 weeks) but it's not like I am looking to carry a knife or gun or that I am even worried that something will happen.
The paranoia came from dodging actual drive-bys when I was 9 and never once seeing cops around.

It also arose when the local chapter of the Crips and the Bloods (read: Not like they are the only gang scraping about [http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2015/12/gangs-of-new-york-city-interactive-map/]) started terrorizing my best friend's neighborhood, leading to him getting jumped several times and a few dead bodies... and the best response the cops could think up was organizing a community watch.

The paranoia came again from wondering if my brother was close enough to actually be covered in the wall of dust when the towers fell.

And it solidified when during Hurricane Sandy, the government pulled emergency forces from neighorhoods and put them guarding governmental places of interest (Banks, etc.) during the storm, then FEMA [http://longisland.news12.com/news/review-fema-shortchanged-sandy-victims-1.10810485] didn't pay out the damages as promised.

I just became tired of it when the cops decided that I "looked like a danger" because of my skin and went about violating my and about 400,000 other people's rights with stop and frisk [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/stop-and-frisk-race_n_3320355.html]. Mainly minorities though [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/06/04/the-blackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/]

I'll admit, I was mildly surprised when I found that our Supreme Court not only stated that ruled that police don't have the duty to protect US lives [http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html], but then gave a double whammy that the police don't really need to know the law, simply suspect a crime might have been committed [http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-ed-ignorance-of-the-law-supreme-court-20141216-story.html] to detain or arrest you.

And then I just said fuck it when people acquitted number after number of cops who beat or shot minorities on film and for being outraged for that, I was told that I'm alarmist or biased because of my skin color.

But oddly enough? I'm not anti government. I wanted Bernie to win, but still, I don't have any real problems with the government. I actually don't hate cops. I don't trust them, but I realize they have a function. Zombies will never happen. Bombing is possible. Shooting is more likely for where I live. But more to the fact is that the most that will ever really happen in my life (probably) is another massive blackout.

We had several major bad snow storms that made my surrounding area without power. Crippled the highway and traffic. If you didn't have food, you better have friends who had more. I don't have a foldable gatling gun I carry around with me in a bag. Like people carry extra money with them when they go to the store, I carry extra stuff that if something blacks out or my safety is in somewhat danger, I at least can have a small way to get back home.

Synigma said:
And now you're doing exactly what she did. Passive aggressively judging everyone who doesn't share your view of the world. Some people don't have the time/energy to invest in worrying that far ahead. Some people have never considered that society will every change. And then there are people like me who realize that they are too invested and if society falls having supplies to last a week or two is probably just dragging out the inevitable. I'm a computer programmer who plays video games and sudoku for fun... Frankly even if I could adapt to a crumbling world... would I want to?
Admittedly, yes, my tone wasn't the greatest.

It's a tone that could still have more understanding in it. Whether you're an atheist or a person of faith, this is the only go around being you. I don't have anything in my little bag to keep me safe in a nuclear attack. Save for the collapsible iron man armor, I don't think you can carry anything around that could. Nor is my edc supposed to be used for a world on the brink of collapse. It's merely to get me back home. My main reasons I have my edc, as I stated, were situations that happened to me that I needed that stuff.

And yes, I have used my edc for similar situations afterwards

Now, readdressing my feelings and the reason I carry things around me, your statement goes to a wildly differing path. I talk about black outs. I talk about nuts with guns (although really, all I have in my pack is a flashlight right now. Those inserts take weeks to make). I talk about a first aid kit because I've been scrapped up before with no way of stopping the bleeding. I talk about running out of battery... who said anything about a crumbling world?

Not really that turn about is fair play, but your response to me took it to a level that I didn't intend. Much like many people take the fact that I bring a first aid kit around with me as me thinking I believe zombies are going to rise up any second now. My view of the world is simply I should be able to take somewhat care of myself on a day to day fashion for the little things. Nothing that extreme as a crumbling world. Which by stating that, in turn, makes me think you view me in a certain way for whatever reason you do.

I'll put straight out there: If the world does crumble, not a damn thing in that little bag or whatever I keep at home will save me. I don't think about that stuff when it comes to preparing because I don't have the time, the money, or even the capability to plan for that.
 

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omega 616 said:
DudeistBelieve said:
omega 616 said:
As I started reading I thought "this guy is an American" and then clicked the spoiler and BAM "I grew up in the Bronx".

Americans have this paranoia about them, maybe it's all the disaster movies that always wipe out the statue of liberty and/or the golden gate bridge, maybe it's the rampant shootings but whatever it is you all seem to have it.

I'm in the UK and know of nobody who is a "prepper", maybe that's us not thinking ahead or that we don't live near anything that could effect us (no volcanoes, fault lines and never get huge tornadoes), we have pretty good infrastructure, so it's not like gas, electricity or water cut off a lot. We have psycho's and gangs, who have guns but it's rare and the gangs aren't large, 20 to 30 at most.

I have a pair of gloves that have hardened knuckles, designed for motocross that I use as a "just in case" and I have a punch bag that I hit on a little (not like I am doing even 10 minute sessions, just 2 or 3 minutes every 2 or 3 weeks) but it's not like I am looking to carry a knife or gun or that I am even worried that something will happen.
I think American's have seen in the past whenever our Government tries to help people it does a terrible job, like Hurricane Katrina or Sandy... or even how it treated the first responders on 9/11.

Basically the worst thing in this country is to be dependent on U.S. Government for survival.

Plus we just plain don't like being told what to do, and the moment your being handed the Government Cheese you gotta play by their rules.
Which is by far my biggest complaint about your government, we all know communism doesn't work but neither does capitalism and America is the greatest example of that. All that money going to military to kill people in other places, while in their own back yard the amount of poverty makes some parts a 3rd world cities/area's, Baltimore and Detroit spring to mind.

Which is why I was hoping Bernie would get in but knew deep down he wouldn't 'cos he was a damn commie! (I know he isn't but that was the public perception) and anything Commie is evil and un-American!

Anyway, that is wildly off topic, so I will shut up!
I mean it has it's flaws and shit... but whatcha gonna do? Really the flaw isn't the system we have up as much as it is those with the power have figured out how to abuse it to their gain, and also continually make sure we can't fix it.

and to be fair, Bernie got way farther than anyone believed he would. It was by far painted as a cake-walk for Hillary and he managed to be a real pest. Keep in mind, everyone was counting on him being a non-factor. So things are changing, a little by little.
 

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I really ought to.

My city is on a huge fault line, hell I can walk to it from my house in like ten minutes. They say the "big one" is coming. The government is worried enough that they are conducting multi-city fire drills.
 

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Of course not, I'm not paranoid. Nor do I have the money.

However, it's pretty much common sense to have some emergency goods at home to get you through a power cut or something of the sorts. Candles, matches, a little gas stove perhaps, basic first aid kit, some canned goods and a water filter. Have some stuff in my car too in If I'd live in an area susceptible to certain natural disasters (flooding, tornadoes, earthquakes) I'd naturally get more stuff to keep me safe during such an emergency.

But I don't really count that as 'prepping'. When I hear that term I think people (hilariously) trying to prepare for societal collapse or when 'the guv'ment' comes to take their land or some shit.

That said, from your posts I can get that you're coloured and from a very rough neighborhood. So in your case I at least somewhat get it. I don't think you could put that in the same league as 'preppers'.
ObsidianJones said:
Sadly, in this day and age, I'm adding more life protection stuff to my kit.
What's up with 'this day and age'?
DudeistBelieve said:
I mean it has it's flaws and shit... but whatcha gonna do?
Work for change, naturally. It's not like it hasn't happened a million times before.
 

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Ehhh? Not any more than normal, honestly. I tend to have a variety of lights/tools/bandages/food on me at all times (thank god for whomever made Cargo pants and snack bars) and I've got stuff in my house for blackouts, floods and fires (Yay Australia), but nothing over-the-top. I've got 3 med-kits in my house, 1 in the car and a bunch of sandbags in the Shed, but that's the most I've gone overboard with.
 

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If it looks like a strong hurricane is going to hit my family's area of Florida, we'll probably prepare by getting jugs of water, enough first aid to deal with common injuries, and food that doesn't require the refrigerator, microwave, or stove. However, sometimes we just question whether or not to make an impromptu trip to visit family for a week.

The thing is, it hasn't been necessary for years. The worst hurricane I've experienced in the last 5-6 years was in Virginia. Any that have affected Florida since have either missed or amounted to nothing more than any other heavy rainstorm.
 

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Ah, the Great East Coast Blackout of '03

Back then, I worked for the towns wastewater treatment facility (thats where human waste goes). When the power outage occured, they did not have any kind of generator backup (and I believe very few government facilities had generator backups back then). Instead, most government facilities are (were?) on two separate energy grids with the idea being what are the odds of both of them being down. Well, when the power went out, that also affected the various pumping stations located in residential areas which pumps the wastewater into the plant. So entire neighborhoods had their lawns saturated with raw sewage. Needless to say, they were not assumed.

And it was all due to a software bug.

Thankfully, I live in an area where (individual) prep is not really needed. We are protected by mountains, and even the worst snowstorms/blizzards only set us back a few days because we are prepared for it.
 

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Major_Tom said:
I never leave my home without at least a knife and a flashlight, but I usually have a lot more in my backpack. Don't worry about the people who think you're crazy, they quickly change their tune when they need some of the stuff you're carrying.
This right here is true. I've never been judged for being a prepper, but I've been in countless situations where having a basic first aid kit or even just carrying around a multitool made me seem like a superhero to some people. I'm always surprised by how many people don't have that kind of stuff on hand or even just in their car

I do keep a simple go-bag ready to go at my home, but this thread made me realize I should probably throw that in my car when I go out, since I spend like 90 percent of my time away from home so if shit hits the fan I might not be by it
 

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ObsidianJones said:
Alright, I admit I went to a dark place there. Some of the messages I was reading immediately got me into that extreme "I've got a bunker with 6 months of rations ready to go" kind of prepping mentality... Little past what you were talking about.

The difference between your edc and what I have on hand comes down to the situations we grew up in. I grew up in the county with nothing around... so I had to had to learn to improvise with whatever I had on hand and since I have a horrible memory that usually wasn't very much.

Thinking about it I actually have a fair bit of prep stuff though... part of my keychain is a little multitool thing, screw driver/bottle opener that get used fairly often actually. My phone gets used for the flashlight as often as I actually use it as a phone and probably even more as a map. My fold up 'credit card' knife sees occasional use. And that's all part of the 3 things I would carry with me anyway, phone, wallet and keys.

Plus I always have a car nearby (with a cable/adapter to charge my phone) plus throw in scout training for things like CPR and how to dress a wound with just a torn up shirt and I guess I'm pretty set.

Then again my fiancee carries around a purse we affectionately call 'The Brick' because it's so heavy... mostly prep type stuff too. And it's definitely been useful on occasion. Or maybe I forget all the things that would be useful (like sunblock... damnit the number of times I burned to a crisp in the sun because I didn't think about bringing sunblock)
 

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No, at least not really. Want to though, considering the election coming up and my general desire to have everything for any situation. Particularly electronics. Considering the local power outages lately, I've been looking into a generator or one of those fancy power backups that I can jam a solar panel into.

Can I be a cord prepper? I have mountains of those.
omega 616 said:
As I started reading I thought "this guy is an American" and then clicked the spoiler and BAM "I grew up in the Bronx".
You know, I'm beginning to think you have something against Americans.
Americans have this paranoia about them, maybe it's all the disaster movies that always wipe out the statue of liberty and/or the golden gate bridge, maybe it's the rampant shootings but whatever it is you all seem to have it.
Not really. That's why a lot of people are not prepared in disaster situations and why most Californians are fucked when The Big One hits. No one knows how to be responsible for themselves.

And then those who are are insulted like in OP's example. There are many a place where you absolutely need to know how to look out for yourself or you're dead.
I'm in the UK and know of nobody who is a "prepper", maybe that's us not thinking ahead or that we don't live near anything that could effect us (no volcanoes, fault lines and never get huge tornadoes), we have pretty good infrastructure, so it's not like gas, electricity or water cut off a lot. We have psycho's and gangs, who have guns but it's rare and the gangs aren't large, 20 to 30 at most.
That's the funny thing. The "big" preppers don't often advertise what they are so they can protect their stuff. On top of that, a lot of people are at least minor ones but don't classify themselves as one. Or, it's my California example.
I have a pair of gloves that have hardened knuckles, designed for motocross that I use as a "just in case" and I have a punch bag that I hit on a little (not like I am doing even 10 minute sessions, just 2 or 3 minutes every 2 or 3 weeks) but it's not like I am looking to carry a knife or gun or that I am even worried that something will happen.
I'm still about 70% sure that's illegal as hell and you don't want to be admitting that. You also contradicted yourself a bit there but hey, self defense mane.

omega 616 said:
Which is by far my biggest complaint about your government, we all know communism doesn't work but neither does capitalism and America is the greatest example of that. All that money going to military to kill people in other places, while in their own back yard the amount of poverty makes some parts a 3rd world cities/area's, Baltimore and Detroit spring to mind.
That's what happens when you become the California example and don't keep your government in check. How it has gotten this bad is quite amazing.
Which is why I was hoping Bernie would get in but knew deep down he wouldn't 'cos he was a damn commie! (I know he isn't but that was the public perception) and anything Commie is evil and un-American!
Being serious here, he'd have had more support from me, or rather in general, if he wasn't anti-gun. Him being anti-gun is totally a 180 on what you'd expect from either an actual Communist or DemSoc and someone arguing his viewpoint.

Is it too late to vote for Ron Paul?
 

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It makes sense to do the bag thing, I guess... but I like walking around with nothing but the things in my pockets, too much. I am prepared to die for the cause of Walking Around With Nothing But the Things in My Pockets!
 

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I keep a small general disaster kit in my apartment.
It's got flashlights, bandages, and other things in that vein.
Nothing apocalypse prepper'y, but basic stuff.
 

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I have more of a B.O.B. than a prepper kit. It started on accident. I have Bipolar disorder so occasionally I lose judgement and spend way too much money, so I started keeping my savings in cash. So I stored that in my inFamous 2 hero edition backpack with the Sly Cooper emblem on it. Later I added a jackknife I don't use anymore and decided that heck, I might as well throw a first aid kit in there since it's so easy just to grab it if there were a fire. I also keep a hard drive in there that I back up monthly (less if I haven't done too much.) It's a 1TB laptop HDD that I have a transfer device for, so I'm not installing it then putting it back in the bag.

I think that's everything.
 

omega 616

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No, at least not really. Want to though, considering the election coming up and my general desire to have everything for any situation. Particularly electronics. Considering the local power outages lately, I've been looking into a generator or one of those fancy power backups that I can jam a solar panel into.

Can I be a cord prepper? I have mountains of those.
omega 616 said:
As I started reading I thought "this guy is an American" and then clicked the spoiler and BAM "I grew up in the Bronx".
You know, I'm beginning to think you have something against Americans.
Americans have this paranoia about them, maybe it's all the disaster movies that always wipe out the statue of liberty and/or the golden gate bridge, maybe it's the rampant shootings but whatever it is you all seem to have it.
Not really. That's why a lot of people are not prepared in disaster situations and why most Californians are fucked when The Big One hits. No one knows how to be responsible for themselves.

And then those who are are insulted like in OP's example. There are many a place where you absolutely need to know how to look out for yourself or you're dead.
I'm in the UK and know of nobody who is a "prepper", maybe that's us not thinking ahead or that we don't live near anything that could effect us (no volcanoes, fault lines and never get huge tornadoes), we have pretty good infrastructure, so it's not like gas, electricity or water cut off a lot. We have psycho's and gangs, who have guns but it's rare and the gangs aren't large, 20 to 30 at most.
That's the funny thing. The "big" preppers don't often advertise what they are so they can protect their stuff. On top of that, a lot of people are at least minor ones but don't classify themselves as one. Or, it's my California example.
I have a pair of gloves that have hardened knuckles, designed for motocross that I use as a "just in case" and I have a punch bag that I hit on a little (not like I am doing even 10 minute sessions, just 2 or 3 minutes every 2 or 3 weeks) but it's not like I am looking to carry a knife or gun or that I am even worried that something will happen.
I'm still about 70% sure that's illegal as hell and you don't want to be admitting that. You also contradicted yourself a bit there but hey, self defense mane.

omega 616 said:
Which is by far my biggest complaint about your government, we all know communism doesn't work but neither does capitalism and America is the greatest example of that. All that money going to military to kill people in other places, while in their own back yard the amount of poverty makes some parts a 3rd world cities/area's, Baltimore and Detroit spring to mind.
That's what happens when you become the California example and don't keep your government in check. How it has gotten this bad is quite amazing.
Which is why I was hoping Bernie would get in but knew deep down he wouldn't 'cos he was a damn commie! (I know he isn't but that was the public perception) and anything Commie is evil and un-American!
Being serious here, he'd have had more support from me, or rather in general, if he wasn't anti-gun. Him being anti-gun is totally a 180 on what you'd expect from either an actual Communist or DemSoc and someone arguing his viewpoint.

Is it too late to vote for Ron Paul?
I don't hate American's, apparently they are some of the nicest people you can meet. I just think America could be a great example of how of a modern utopia. Everybody already gets it's media, we know all about who is going to be next president, who is in the race etc. It generates an absurd level of money with that media, just every every big piece of media comes from there ... just about every movie is made in Hollywood, just about every musician goes there and a lot of the big game companies are based there and what do they do with all that money and power? Kill brown people in far off lands, meanwhile other things in their country suck ... why are all you're nukes on huge ass floppy disks? Why does Detroit look like a fallout game?

Not really? American's are very definitely paranoid, "I need a gun!" why "in case they get me!" they aren't coming to get you "they could invade!" no they wouldn't try to invade the largest army ever, "the government could become tyrannical" at what point do they become tyrannical? And even if they did become north korea, you don't stand a chance!

No, it's just not a trend a over here. It's like tipping, sure some people might do it over here but it's very unusual. I mean we are a tiny lil island compared to America and I doubt that many people are preppers over there, so per capita? about 12 of us ... of course I am just pulling numbers from my ass and assuming like fucking crazy.

It's not illegal, "these are the only gloves I have officer". I didn't contradict myself, 'cos I said I'm not worried but carry gloves? I'm just safety conscious, do I go out thinking "better grab my gloves 'cos you never know!" nope, just have them in my coat and if the need arises then I have them. I don't even think about them most of the time, that's just the pocket with my gloves in and my chap stick ... I get dry lips.

See, pro gun people are the paranoid ones to me but I don't want to turn this into a gun debate 'cos neither of us will change our minds, the conversation wont change law and it's not the subject matter.
 

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Only getting to two things here.
omega 616 said:
why are all you're nukes on huge ass floppy disks?
Reliability and no reason to upgrade. No real advantage. Upgrading can potentially open up major holes.

Why change what you have mastered and works just fine?
Why does Detroit look like a fallout game?
For my own sanity and forum meter, I'm not answering that.

Major_Tom said:
I never leave my home without at least a knife and a flashlight, but I usually have a lot more in my backpack. Don't worry about the people who think you're crazy, they quickly change their tune when they need some of the stuff you're carrying.
You in a nutshell. Everyone makes fun of the guy who has reasonable concerns regarding what he takes with him, but the assholes don't laugh when they have nothing that can cut the mustard.
 

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ObsidianJones said:
It's something that society still laughs at, I believe. If you believe in prepping/are a prepper. If you don't know, A Prepper is simply a person who prepares for events that might happen. Societal collapse to people who were caught in Hurricane Sandy, there are many reasons why people prep, as there are different degrees to which preppers prepare. I'm wondering if anyone else here preps, and if you feel like it, telling us your reasons for prepping.

I grew up in the Bronx as a minority. I was taught by my teachers that firemen and the police were my friends and are here to protect me, but then I was taught about the adults in my family and life that they didn't care a damn about me. Growing up and hearing them yell at us for just being, I started to take the latter view of it.

I never felt like society really cares about me, and that if there was a problem I'd be on my own.

The first time I ever felt I needed an item was August 2003. If any of you remember, that was the giant black out [http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/blackout-hits-northeast-united-states]. My grandmother was going through the early stages of Dementia at that point. And I was tasked to go the twenty miles to go pick her up. What was normally a 40 minute drive took 2 hours and maybe 15 minutes. I had to go up a few flights of stairs in complete dark and my grandmother didn't like that at all. From that point on, I made it a point to at least always have a flashlight on me.

There have been plenty of times I needed to cut something and I didn't have a knife or scissors, try to loosen screws with dimes, and open up those damn plastic packages that it just made sense to buy a multitool.

I won't even get into how many times I just ran out of charge and got earfuls from loved ones that they didn't know where I was. So it just made since to carry one of a battery charger with me. But by this time, I hardly had enough space in my pockets for my wallet. so I got a messenger bag and I started to add more stuff to have with me.

Sadly, in this day and age, I'm adding more life protection stuff to my kit. I just got a mini first aid kit. And terrifyingly enough, I'm looking at these body armor inserts you can put into bags. I really don't like that it's come to this, but just because I have no beef with anyone and even those looking to do harm truly don't have a beef with me... that doesn't mean I will not be a target.

I bring this up because I just gave a ride for a friend of mine and she regarded how heavy my Every Day Carry bag was when she moved it. I explained I had a lot of stuff in my EDC, and she asked what it was. When I explained, she looked at me funny. Like I was a paranoid freak. I shrugged it off and said "Hey, if you have a list when the next psycho is going to go off and what exactly he's going to do, forward it to me so I can just not be at that certain point when he does".

She didn't have a response to that, agreed that it was a scary world out there nowadays... but still thought I was crazy for trying to make sure I'm at least not completely without resources at time of need. I guess it's 'sane' to completely rely on other people and be helpless when the time comes.

Who knew?
Personally I feel things like multi tools, battery chargers or multitools are good if you travel a lot. Where I live power outages are rare and don't last very long, so there isn't much need for a flashlight. I rarely leave my home with enough charge on it to last a day.
Since in germany it's mandatory to have a first aid kit in your car, it's not hard to get one when it's needed.

I can understand why some would like to prepare for emergencies and I think it's reasonable to do so within limits. I saw some articles about preppers in the USA. Those articles show the extreme cases and I can't understand those guys. Storing enough food for years, building bunkers, doing some kind of drills, personally I think those people are nutcases.
 

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Since my family's summer home already has access to fresh water, a garden with rhubarb, apples, wineberries, cranberries, and plums, fields on both sides, a sauna for hygiene, a tool shed with pretty much any tools you could need, and is firewood heated with enough firewood to last several decades, I'd say I'm pretty much set in the case of a major humanitarian crisis. Smaller cases like power outages and needing a first aid kit in an emergency... not so much. Though for that purpose I have the advantage of living in a major population area in a country with virtually no natural disasters, an extremely solid and functional infrastructure and literally one of the safest societies in the world. From time I do wonder if stocking a bit of canned or dried food, flour, toilet paper or batteries might be in order, since you never know.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
I barely have the money to survive right now this second, let alone to spend the money on prepping. I also have no real survival skills at all...

If the apocalypse happens, I'm fucked. I have made peace with that.
So, should the apocalypse occur, you'd take no issue with donating some of your tasty, succulent, delicious human mea...uh...I mean clothing. Yeah, clothing. Gonna get cold during the apocalypse. Would be a shame to let your coats and sweaters go to waste.

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