I do because of what it stand for and the history behind it, I also respect other country flags and get rather ticked when i see anyone burring or destroying one.
Do you respect your country's flag?
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It's a nice flag and all, I mean it's got a pretty red leaf on it and everything, but I don't put the value of my country into it; That would be silly.
To me, it's nothing more than a symbol. I respect what it stands for, and that's all. I don't confuse what it stands for with what it actually is, unlike some of those overzealous whackjobs.
To me, it's nothing more than a symbol. I respect what it stands for, and that's all. I don't confuse what it stands for with what it actually is, unlike some of those overzealous whackjobs.
The New Zealand flag is horrible, it oughta be replaced with the Silver Fern, or at least the other thing I've forgotten how to pronounce.
It sucks balls.
It sucks balls.
Oh, HELL no.
I'm a fairweather patriot at the best of times but I refuse to acknowledge how three stripes of colour should deserve any kind of respect or love.
Especially considering how we basically just stole the French one and turned it sideways.
I respect my country's history, and I have at least a grain of respect for our national anthem but the flag can go fuck itself for all I care.
I'm a fairweather patriot at the best of times but I refuse to acknowledge how three stripes of colour should deserve any kind of respect or love.
Especially considering how we basically just stole the French one and turned it sideways.
I respect my country's history, and I have at least a grain of respect for our national anthem but the flag can go fuck itself for all I care.
Here in the UK we have an actual person (the Queen) as the supposed symbol of the country so we didn't have the need to build up the importance of the flag in the same way as republics did after their respective revolutions
Did you know that we recently changed the rules so that having military training is now considered having a job rather than an obligation for your country?Furburt said:
Like a lot of other posters so far I have no real connection to the flag (either Scottish or British) as an item in and of itself, but some respect in the sense that it represents my country. But for all that it no more represents the whole of the country than the football team or haggis. I wouldn't choose to burn any of them, but wouldn't get vexed if someone else did. (Our football team really sucks.)
I think there's a qualitative difference between the UK and the US on this point. The UK never really invented itself in a concious fashion. The US did (in rebellion against the UK). In the UK, no-one swears allegiance to the flag at school. It's just a flag, not a full blown proxy for the country. In the US, it is a proxy.
I think there's a qualitative difference between the UK and the US on this point. The UK never really invented itself in a concious fashion. The US did (in rebellion against the UK). In the UK, no-one swears allegiance to the flag at school. It's just a flag, not a full blown proxy for the country. In the US, it is a proxy.
I don't care much about symbolism, never did, and even if I would I'm not particularly fond of my country. So I'll look at our flag from a sheer aesthetical point of view. And from that p.o.v, I think that the Dutch flag is just dreadfully boring. I mean look at it:
YAAAAAAWN.
Now the Union Jack, that's a cool looking flag.
YAAAAAAWN.
Now the Union Jack, that's a cool looking flag.
I respect my flag, but not so much the flag as the people it represents, granted we have a few arseholes around, but the good people more than make up for the bad, and I feel they deserve my respect, the flag being the easiest way to respect them.
I guess I respect the flag to show my respect to all the people of my country who deserve it, makes sense I guess?
I guess I respect the flag to show my respect to all the people of my country who deserve it, makes sense I guess?
If you're looking for something worthy of respect, head out into the outback, I'm sure you'll meet lots of people who are deserving of your respect, alternatively go talk to some guys in the Army (screw the others, we're the cool ones) and if you happen to not get one of them elitist types you'll usual find they're deserving of your respect too.ethaninja said:
I'm very anti-patriotism. It, to me, is just another form of discrimination. To like somebody less because they are not common. Also it seems stupid to allow somebody else to tell you what is right and wrong. Frankly, to agree with your country on every matter is to be weak-minded and ignorant.
To quote a man from my home town, also a rather famous man (across the pond especially):
Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may.
Mark Twain
Oh yeah, on topic, I don't really give a shit about the Union flag. To me it's just something for people to identify us as at the Olympics. I do like the Canadian flag though, it has a nice aesthetic with the red and white and the leaf. Simple and yet somehow delicate.
edit: semi-on topic now. I also think our national anthem sucks. As much as it pains me to say it, even the french one is better. Though nothing can top the awesomeness of Flower of Scotland. Now that's a badass anthem.
To quote a man from my home town, also a rather famous man (across the pond especially):
Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may.
Mark Twain
Oh yeah, on topic, I don't really give a shit about the Union flag. To me it's just something for people to identify us as at the Olympics. I do like the Canadian flag though, it has a nice aesthetic with the red and white and the leaf. Simple and yet somehow delicate.
edit: semi-on topic now. I also think our national anthem sucks. As much as it pains me to say it, even the french one is better. Though nothing can top the awesomeness of Flower of Scotland. Now that's a badass anthem.
You live in Australia don't you? I know this is a bit off topic but can you tell me why you hate Australia so much? In every Australia related post you write you have a negative attitude towards it. I'm not saying you need to or even should like it, I'm just curious and would like a bit of justification for your comments.ethaninja said:
OT: To me a flag is a piece of material. That's not to say I disrespect it. To me it is a possesion and I care for it as one, no more, no less(my Australian flag isn't a very high quality one). Deliberately desecrating one is a different issue all together. The act of burning an Australian flag is disrespect to the Australian people and our values.
Hah! It's funny because it's true! Ha!Furburt said:
Still, we are "somewhat" forced to join whatever the UN is up to.
And thus, we got our military in conflict with the terrorists.
So the rule of 'meh' applies only when not ordered to move by an UN decision/agreement.
Heehee...flagged...very good XDRoss Perot said:
I don't mind the Australian flag. I do mind the twats who wear it as a cape on the Gold Coast on Australia day. But other that that, no, I have no feelings either way. It's not even really unique. Cook Islands, New Zealand, a few other places also share an extremely similar 'union jack + blue' design. I'm not going to salute it or bow to it or put a flagpole in my yard and care for it like a child though. It's just a flag, there's many more where that came from. My country doesn't need me to protect every one of its precious little flags. It's a big boy.
I have an Irish flag, I have alot of respect for what the flag symbolises and such have respect for the flag itself.