Do you think there's discrimination against female film/television directors?

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I once made a topic asking why there weren't many female directors. Now there is apparently a federal investigation concerning the lack of female directors in the field.

Do any of you believe there is serious discrimination against women in directorial roles? If so, do you think it's intentional, or a result of other circumstances? If not, why do you think there's such a large disparity?
 

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I've seen some sources that suggest that there's a lot of bullshit that they have to put up with inside the field.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if it existed, but I imagine it'd be difficult to figure this out definitively. My understanding is that Hollywood is usually pretty progressive, but I can easily imagine them having an "old boy's club."
 

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No, because I rarely pay attention to directors. That basically means that both genders get equal amounts of apathy from my direction. See? Totally fair.
 

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I really don't know enough about the industry to comment. Could there be? Maybe? Could there also be ligament reasons behind it like most NASCAR drives being male? I don't know. Directors typically have to be assertive and decisive witch are typicality male attributes. But do those attributes come form nature or nurture? I don't really know, and I don't think anyone dose. So I think to answer this question you would need answer to other questions that we don't have the answer to.

I mean certainly women who enter the field have to deal with a lot of shit, but is that the sole reason so few enter it? Again questions upon questions. Although I don't think our ignorance means nothing should be done about the women who do enter the field having to deal with shit.
 

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Well, yes, this is something people have pointed out again and again for quite a while.
 

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As far as I know, no.
It's rather presumptuous to assume that it is only that reason.
Though if it's like the stuff I've seen around here then maybe not.
I haven't actually seen a lot of females going into directing or editing and I spend a fair bit on an arts college campus.
Lots of women going into animation though, brave souls, the animation teachers here are brutal (comparably mild when you deal with what those profs had to deal with, I've sent some time with those guys and some of them talked about the fist fights people would get into for space to draw)
 

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Absolutely. Females in that industry period have been sidelined and ignored for a very long time, and it harkens back to the pre-women's rights days and subsequent 50's mentality where women were "equal" but thought of as the homemakers and caretakers not fit to be in the working world, despite the absolute brilliance of many women during WWII.
I'm a lucky person, having grown up with a very good model of a strong and independent woman who could do as good and better than a man in the same position. She's the top broker in Real Estate in my hometown, runs the best agency with a crew of people who aren't coworkers but a family and do not backstab each other (its not tolerated) nor does anyone poach another's client. She leads by example, has such a code of ethics that I don't think you could ever find a discrepancy in her work, no shortcuts and no artificial inflation of a price to get a better commission. She and my father are both the reason I'm also extremely ethical in my work, sometimes to my detriment, because I will never charge clients for work that I never did nor will I overcharge them for a job.
But seeing her work from being a model/waitress to a stewardess to a successful real estate agent and broker is inspirational and also puts the lie to the idea that women are unable to handle "a man's world" because she can put any man to shame IMO in any job or career if she was put in that situation from the start. She also has molded me to be fair to women and treat them as equals.
 

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I have a friend online who posts stuff about black actors/directors getting shafted all the time too. I think it's a safe bet that women and minorities don't receive the treatment they deserve. Considering how old and corrupt the studio executives are, I wouldn't be surprised. Hollywood is a depressing place, if the lyrics of every alternative rock/metal band in late 90's is anything to go by XD
 

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No clue.

I have no ties or real understanding of the realities of that business. I've read plenty to statistics that show woman are not treated or paid equally to men in just about every field imaginable. So I would just naturally assume female directors are the same.

When it comes to jobs like this that have so few people to begin with it's hard to say if tendencies like gender bias are a result of genuine discrimination or simply a result of outside factors/coincidence.
 

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I'm sure it's not a conspiracy, just another case of anachronistic values calcifying in an industry, resulting in it being resistant to change. Hollywood is not kind to women in general, regardless of which role on a production they seek to fill.
 

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Women have a pretty strong history in the film and television industry as writers, directors, and producers, a lot of people don't realize this fact. I wouldn't expect in am industry as intentionally progressive as the television and film to allow any sexism. On the other hand rich extreme left wing types tend to be amazingly elitist in nature, which means that it wouldn't surprise me if there was overt sexism now. In the past women had to scratch and scrape their way up a sheer wall to get to where they got, but they got there, as did directors of racial minorities. Anymore? It wouldn't surprise me if the elitist old farts at the top devolved it into a sexist environment, where it had been pretty fair in the past.
 

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Well.

It's being investigated, so, I suppose we'll find out either way?

But if there is? Shouldn't be happening and it's bullshit.
If it isn't and there just aren't very many good female directors? ...Then I don't care.
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In the past? Sure.
Nowadays? Not really.
These days, there are actually a lot of female directors doing their thing but there are a lot more male directors so you will see more movies being made by men.

Also, and I'm just throwing that out there, we can't dismiss the possibility that women on average just don't want to be movie directors as much as men.
Multiple studies have shown that men and women on average make different career choices.
 

Johnny Novgorod

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In USA, sure.

I find the male/female filmmaker ratio to be considerably more balanced in countries other than the US. Argentina produces something like 200/300 movies every year and about 40% are directed by women. I also attend 2 or 3 international film festivals every year; I've been to Mar del Plata, San Sebastián and Biarritz, and female movie directors are quite common.

So I think it's mostly a US thing.