No sir, it's definitely happening. I've wanted kids since I was one myself.bringer of illumination said:Like he said, You hope.Amberella said:Nope. I know we will.Sansha said:You hope.Amberella said:I want kids.
My boyfriend and I are going to have lots of babies together one day!![]()
1) Now we've come to an impasse based on an opinion. Over and underpopulation are opinions. You can't be right or wrong about opinions. And it is my opinion that I can assume what I want to, especially when you are the only one who seems to want to call me out on that assumption for no explainable reason.ravensheart18 said:1) You assumed that most people think the world was overpopulated. You are simply wrong. It is underpopulated. Only a handful of people think otherwise.Vern5 said:1) Seriously? I can't assume things anymore? I guess I'm just getting stubborn. I'm forgetting to observe the laws of the Secret Mental Police. Just because I assume something doesn't mean it absolutely has to be right. Actually, you proved my point of "mostly agreeing" because mostly doesn't count everyone.ravensheart18 said:No, you can't assume that. I disagree completely. There are vast areas that are underpopulated. Many "western" nations have immigration programs because of low population and low population growth.Vern5 said:I'm going to go ahead and assume that we can mostly agree that the world is ridiculously overpopulated right now.
On a world wide basis there is plenty, that isn't why they are starving. They are starving due to war, politics, greed, luck, and many other factors. Billions of tonnes of food are wasted or allowed to rot every year. In some areas farmers are paid NOT to grow food or to destroy perfectly good food to keep the prices at artificial price points.People are dying in the streets. There isn't enough food to go around.
Most people are genetically wired to want to reproduce. Even people who think they don't want kids suddenly see things a whole new way as they age, or as they/their partner become pregnant. Nothing in my life has been as rewarding as having a child.So, I've got to know, do any of you want children and, if so, why?
2) You happily proved my point of there not being enough food to go around. Yes a lot of it is lost to fire and neglect. Yes a lot of it is stockpiled away from those who need. So between losing and withholding food, there really isn't enough to go around.
3) I can agree with what you're saying. I'm pretty sure that I'll think differently on having kids or not once I've felt the need to lay down roots. Still, why was having your child such an incredible reward, if you don't mind me asking?
2) There is plenty to go around. The fact that we don't share it doesn't mean there isn't enough. When there were 100,000 people in the world we didn't share it and people starved then too. Your model is overly simplistic to the point of being cartoonish.
3) It is a little hard to describe. What makes anything you do rewarding? It's something you feel inside. It's the feeling when you first see them, when they come running to the door because they heard you come home, they way they look at you, they feeling you get as you watch them grow and learn and become a little person of their own.
I agree, But given the choice, I'd rather not be genetically brain-washed into wanting to make babies. If I can psychologically progress to a state in which having a child is preferable, then I'll have a child (presuming I have all the pre-requisites like love, financial stability, a partner, etc), but I don't want my body deciding it for me ... if that makes any sense.ravensheart18 said:Most people are genetically wired to want to reproduce. Even people who think they don't want kids suddenly see things a whole new way as they age, or as they/their partner become pregnant.