Doctor Who plot holes

[Lukirre]

Oh man, so many plot holes.

I think the real question is why did the quality of the show plummet once it returned from its small break to finish season 6?

Quality question, that.

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

In the words of Terry Pratchett:

"There are no plot holes. Just the occasional alternate history."

 

[A Pious Cultist]

Millions of TARDISes, most newer than the Doctor's and some outfitted for war, million of Daleks, millions of miscellanious travellers. All capable of travelling through time but apparently none of them have ever attempted to violate a fixed point since it causes reality to end.


All but a handful (of which many were consumed by House in the bubble universe) of TARDISes were destroyed in the time war yet blowing one up ends the universe. All of The Doctor's enemies also seem to be aware of that but it has never stopped them from trying to destroy it (exception when Davros tries to end all realities; I doubt he gave a shit).


Plus The Doctor kills everyone that doesn't look human. The silence manipulated humanity for a few thousand years so the Doctor hypnotises the entire human race into genocide (he also outright kills many Ood, Cybermen, and Daleks which, while emotionally stunted, are inarguably conscious). But The Master tries to slaughter the entire human race, or Davros tries to end all possible and present realities and The Doctor is all "PLEASE LET ME SAVE YOU, I CAN STILL SAVE YOU!" even going so far as to abandon Doctor-Donna because he tried to kill Davros.

Also the whole two episodes with The Flesh where a single touch creates a fully conscious clone of The Doctor is rendered completely pointless by The Doctor murdering Amy's nine-month old clone just to sever a link.

 

[Carbonyl]

What Dotcor Who plot holes have you discovered while watching doctor who?
My two are
1.How was River managing to fall out a window for about 2 days straight in day of the moon?
2. How are the silence wearing suits? I mean seriousley. Who put them on?

See, the problem is that you're trying to fill these holes. It's like looking into the heart of the TARDIS: You'll go mad/get turned in an egg.
This is Doctor Who. If you wanted something that made sense you should have taken a quantum physics course, you'd have more luck there. Maybe you could actually reverse the polarity of a neutron flow.

Learn to embrace the confusion and chaos.

And the suits? Elves, tiny elves make them in the night.

 

[Aeon_COR]

one of my favorite parts in Mass Effect 2 was when i got the option to blow a guy up mid monolog

 

[Red Roark]

Real Doc Who plot hole, how did the Pandorica open?

 

[Munchu]

Of course there's lots of inconsistencies and things that aren't fully explained, but it's just a show and we should really just relax.

 

[Master_of_Oldskool]

1.She wasn't. They travelled back in time to when she jumped. They were in a time machine. TARDIS. Time And Relative Dimension In Space.

2.The Silence are sentient beings, not animals. They can put suits on by themselves.

Here's one: how did the Angels in "Time of the Angels" and "Flesh and Stone" turn to stone "voluntarily" when it was explicitly stated in "Blink" that changing into stone was involuntary?

And another: Why is the 11th Doctor such an unsympathetic and at times (see the bit at the beginning of the last season finale where he taunted a dying Dalek) outright monstrous piece of two-dimensional characterisation?

Answer to both: Steven Moffat can't write for shit.

THIRD EDIT IN AS MANY MINUTES:

The fact that time fell apart because the Doctor didn't die, and then was folled by a robot version of him dying instead....

It was my impression that the robot dying was the fixed point in time, and the bit about the Doctor dying was simply a mistaken impression people got because he wanted it to look like he did die. You know, stuff that was explicitly stated and everything.

 

[Zach of Fables]

And another: Why is the 11th Doctor such an unsympathetic and at times (see the bit at the beginning of the last season finale where he taunted a dying Dalek) outright monstrous piece of two-dimensional characterisation?

It's a freaking Dalek, man. It deserved it. But I do agree actually, that the Doctor's writing is very inconsistent. But that's been going on all the way back to the Eccleston era. The writers try to balance his multiple character traits but eh...it doesn't always go so well. It's not just a Moffet problem.

 

[Twilight_guy]

No those aren't plotholes. Plotholes are how its specifically mention in one episode interacting with your past self is a bad thing that will destroy the universe (in fact there was an episode about it) and then later in a Christmas episode specifically making a point to have a character interact with his past self to solve a problem and having it mean nothing. The only reason no one bitches about that is probably because different doctors (wibby wobbly continuity... stuff).

Are you talking about "The Next Doctor"?

No. See below.

No those aren't plotholes. Plotholes are how its specifically mention in one episode interacting with your past self is a bad thing that will destroy the universe (in fact there was an episode about it) and then later in a Christmas episode specifically making a point to have a character interact with his past self to solve a problem and having it mean nothing. The only reason no one bitches about that is probably because different doctors (wibby wobbly continuity... stuff).

I think in the episode you are thinking of it's only if the subject goes back to their past rather than their past coming to the future. That and stuff went to hell when Rose changes HER timeline by saving her dad in comparison to the old bloke seeing his future self (I assume that's the special you're on about at least) where all they did was hug, theoretically impossible but the Doctor has crashed into himself before without too much happening so maybe it's only in special circumstances.

You say special circumstances I say plot hole. Of course in all good scifi they usually resolve plot holes by breaking physics or pulling stuff from their asses from I'm not upset or anything I just wanted to point out that this is closer to a plot hole, when something goes against its own in universe rules or continuity.

 

[artanis_neravar]

No those aren't plotholes. Plotholes are how its specifically mention in one episode interacting with your past self is a bad thing that will destroy the universe (in fact there was an episode about it) and then later in a Christmas episode specifically making a point to have a character interact with his past self to solve a problem and having it mean nothing. The only reason no one bitches about that is probably because different doctors (wibby wobbly continuity... stuff).

Are you talking about "The Next Doctor"?

No. See below.

No those aren't plotholes. Plotholes are how its specifically mention in one episode interacting with your past self is a bad thing that will destroy the universe (in fact there was an episode about it) and then later in a Christmas episode specifically making a point to have a character interact with his past self to solve a problem and having it mean nothing. The only reason no one bitches about that is probably because different doctors (wibby wobbly continuity... stuff).

I think in the episode you are thinking of it's only if the subject goes back to their past rather than their past coming to the future. That and stuff went to hell when Rose changes HER timeline by saving her dad in comparison to the old bloke seeing his future self (I assume that's the special you're on about at least) where all they did was hug, theoretically impossible but the Doctor has crashed into himself before without too much happening so maybe it's only in special circumstances.

You say special circumstances I say plot hole. Of course in all good scifi they usually resolve plot holes by breaking physics or pulling stuff from their asses from I'm not upset or anything I just wanted to point out that this is closer to a plot hole, when something goes against its own in universe rules or continuity.

Which Christmas Special are you talking about then (I seem to have missed on and would like to know what to look for)

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

There are no plot holes.

There are just a lot of plot disturbances.

But then you're watching a show about an alien whose run off with a time machine grown on a far away planet that orbits a black hole...or used to.

When did you ever think it wouldn't be riddled with holes?

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Of course there's lots of inconsistencies and things that aren't fully explained, but it's just a show and we should really just relax.

And if you're wondering how he eats and drinks...

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I HAVE AN ACTUAL PLOT HOLE!
in the first season of the new doctor who it was established if time was changed in any major way that these creatures would come and eat up time and space, were the hell were they when river song didn't kill the doctor or any other time time was changed in a major way in the other season?

YES! Finally someone else you wonders this! I didnt think f putting this up here because i thought i was the only one thinking it! The reapers they were called. If When rose touched her younger self (No pun intended) the reapers came to devour everyone in sight. Where were they in the big bang and a good man goes to war?

Reapers are a Davies invention, the Cracks are the Moffat invention. The Reapers actually broke canon first, as the Blinovitch Limitation, when crossed, is a huge discharge of energy - not Reapers.

 

[castlewise]

Ok how about this. Why does the Doctor touching River fix time when its actually just a robot of the Doctor touching River. I mean, the doctor was there, but he might as well have been standing off to the side for all that he was actually in control of the robot or involved in its operation.

(The last episode is kind of annoying. They tell you basically nothing about the silence and then boom, gimmick and done.)

 

[Double A]

She wasn't falling out of a window for two days straight. The Doctor went back and saved her. He has a time machine, remember?

Maybe he was looking at the Silence every time he was also looking at the TARDIS.

OP: Google TARDIS.

Everyone: I think that the Doctor robot was what was supposed to be destroyed. Plot hole averted.

 

[TimeLord]

Real Doc Who plot hole, how did the Pandorica open?

Paradox, not plot hole.

The Doctor frees himself in the future once he's free. He can't free himself until free in the future, he can't be free until he's frees himself in the past. Infinite unbroken loop.

Ok how about this. Why does the Doctor touching River fix time when its actually just a robot of the Doctor touching River. I mean, the doctor was there, but he might as well have been standing off to the side for all that he was actually in control of the robot or involved in its operation.

(The last episode is kind of annoying. They tell you basically nothing about the silence and then boom, gimmick and done.)

Because the fixed point in time consisted of River and the Teselecta, not River and the Doctor. It always had but the audience didn't know it, and neither did the Doctor until he thought of the idea.

 

[Merkavar]

What Dotcor Who plot holes have you discovered while watching doctor who?
My two are
1.How was River managing to fall out a window for about 2 days straight in day of the moon?
2. How are the silence wearing suits? I mean seriousley. Who put them on?

im pretty sure she was falling for a few seconds. didnt the doctor go back in time a few days to save her.
im sure the silence can put suits on them selves.

if these are the plot holes you come up with doctor who seems lke a solid show.

i think a show about a mad time travelling doctor is allowed to have some plot holes. aslong as they arent massive

 

[WolfThomas]

Actually somebody suggested we wear suits as a sub-conscious way of mimicking the Silence, which makes sense when you think about how silly (yet awesome) ties are.

The Silence were a race that had influenced our species progression since the dawn of time. They aren't wearing clothes like ours, we're wearing clothes inspired by them.

Ninja'd.

Also the whole two episodes with The Flesh where a single touch creates a fully conscious clone of The Doctor is rendered completely pointless by The Doctor murdering Amy's nine-month old clone just to sever a link.

That Ganger hadn't developed a seperate personality though, it was directly linked to Amy, so he didn't kill any unique mind/soul, just an avatar of her. It's a bit callous, but it's not the same as killing one of the other gangers.