Doctor Who Series 6.7 'A Good Man Goes To War' SPOILERS
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.canadamus_prime said:
Watch.space cast.com. You can see the episodes. And I found a good man goes to war on YouTube. For parts 1-3 type Dr. who a good man goes to war 1/4. 2/4. 3/4. And just search for part 4. Hopefully it's still there!
I was impressed by two things in this episode: 1) that I totally called that River is Amy's daughter and 2) That, although it was a cliffhanger, it didn't leave me in pain like the gap between the last two episodes of series 4 did. My buddy also predicted that we'd see some good old fashioned badassery from Rory. I'm sure he'll be ready to rub that prediction in my face when I speak to him tonight.
The sad thing is, that the Story gets confusing. And i dont mean in the way of "Well i didnt see that one coming" more along the lines that it becomes hard to follow logically where Moffat is going with this. He is literally flip-flopping on the Subject back and forth and cant decide what he is doing, at least thats what it feels like.
River being Amy's Daughter i figured out at the beginning of the Episode, yes im a little slow that way. The Spacesuit Girl i actually assumed to be Jenny, as in the Doctor's Daughter, due to being able to regenerate and it was established that Moffat pushed for Jenny not to be killed off. But it seems to be a stab at that being River, which makes no sense because why is she a child in the past if the people who took her are in the future? Unless they have their own method of Timetravel, which i doubt.
I liked the twist that it turns out that the Doctor is actually the "evil Guy" in a manner of speaking, but that one has been done before. By several Races and People even. I mean the Daleks are bad but even they acknowledged that the Doctor is worse than them on several Occasions. So yeah, its not all that suprising. Hell it has been shown in the Waters of Mars even that People disagree with his Idea that everything bends to his will.
I just hope that Moffat gets his act together and starts making sense, else the Series will turn off alot of Fans over time because it gets a little silly lately.
River being Amy's Daughter i figured out at the beginning of the Episode, yes im a little slow that way. The Spacesuit Girl i actually assumed to be Jenny, as in the Doctor's Daughter, due to being able to regenerate and it was established that Moffat pushed for Jenny not to be killed off. But it seems to be a stab at that being River, which makes no sense because why is she a child in the past if the people who took her are in the future? Unless they have their own method of Timetravel, which i doubt.
I liked the twist that it turns out that the Doctor is actually the "evil Guy" in a manner of speaking, but that one has been done before. By several Races and People even. I mean the Daleks are bad but even they acknowledged that the Doctor is worse than them on several Occasions. So yeah, its not all that suprising. Hell it has been shown in the Waters of Mars even that People disagree with his Idea that everything bends to his will.
I just hope that Moffat gets his act together and starts making sense, else the Series will turn off alot of Fans over time because it gets a little silly lately.
Considering it's fiction they can do whatever they want. But Donna was born a normal human then made part timelord, whereas River was born mixed, perhaps it allowed her body to develop and adjust.Arkhangelsk said:
Oh no you didn't, that doesn't count (puts fingers in his ears) Lalalalalalala!bobby1361 said:
NikolaiK said:
Now first off, let's get one thing out of the way: The Doctor has always been uncompromising, ruthless and quite brutal towards threats to the human race. He steered a fleet of Ice Warriors into the sun in "The Seeds of Death", he sentenced Sutekh to death by eternal time corridor in "Pyramids of Mars", he poisoned people in "Vengeance on Varos", he boiled the Krillitanes in their own oil in "School Reunion", and while he hasn't wiped the Cybermen or the Daleks off the face of the universe, it hasn't been for lack of trying. (Pretty much every incarnation has wiped out a Dalek army or three.) The Doctor is about as merciful as he needs to be, and the Silence weren't exactly begging for mercy before he unveiled his big plan.
In fact, they were kind of doing the exact opposite, which is why I don't consider the Doctor's actions to be particularly immoral at all. The Silent that said, "You should kill us all on sight" wasn't tricked into uttering those words by some clever plan of the Doctor's; it was offering the honest, candid opinion of its species on the wisest, safest and best course of action for the human race to take. The Doctor had a hologram of a Silent that he could bring up on command, and knew that anything anyone said to someone watching a Silent would be taken as a post-hypnotic suggestion.
But the Doctor doesn't tell humanity, "You should kill all of these guys on sight." He shows us the Silent?s unvarnished, honest opinion of us. "You should kill us all on sight." If we were smart, we wouldn't try to get along with the Silence. We wouldn't show them mercy or compassion or even attempt to negotiate with them. We would just kill every single one of the bastards before they could get away. That's not the Doctor?s opinion, it's theirs. The Doctor is simply telling humanity something they need to know: There is an enemy in your midst and you can't let it get away because it's too dangerous to let out of your sight for even a second. Yes, the nature of the Silence means that became a post-hypnotic command, but even if it didn't, the Doctor still would have told us and it still would have been just as important. That's why it worked so well, because it was the absolute truth, straight from the creepy-cross-between-a-Grey-and-Edvard-Munch's-"The-Scream"'s mouth. The Doctor didn't program humanity to be killers, he just let everyone know that it was kill or be killed.
In fact, they were kind of doing the exact opposite, which is why I don't consider the Doctor's actions to be particularly immoral at all. The Silent that said, "You should kill us all on sight" wasn't tricked into uttering those words by some clever plan of the Doctor's; it was offering the honest, candid opinion of its species on the wisest, safest and best course of action for the human race to take. The Doctor had a hologram of a Silent that he could bring up on command, and knew that anything anyone said to someone watching a Silent would be taken as a post-hypnotic suggestion.
But the Doctor doesn't tell humanity, "You should kill all of these guys on sight." He shows us the Silent?s unvarnished, honest opinion of us. "You should kill us all on sight." If we were smart, we wouldn't try to get along with the Silence. We wouldn't show them mercy or compassion or even attempt to negotiate with them. We would just kill every single one of the bastards before they could get away. That's not the Doctor?s opinion, it's theirs. The Doctor is simply telling humanity something they need to know: There is an enemy in your midst and you can't let it get away because it's too dangerous to let out of your sight for even a second. Yes, the nature of the Silence means that became a post-hypnotic command, but even if it didn't, the Doctor still would have told us and it still would have been just as important. That's why it worked so well, because it was the absolute truth, straight from the creepy-cross-between-a-Grey-and-Edvard-Munch's-"The-Scream"'s mouth. The Doctor didn't program humanity to be killers, he just let everyone know that it was kill or be killed.
I didn't like the plot twist. It was pretty cheesy. It also causes some weird things till plot resolved. Why didn't River remember being in the Space Suit. This means River is a bit time lord. Also that this means that we have the strange scenario that Amy and Rory are Rivers parents yet she appears older than them.
I did like the headless monks though. They were cool particularly liking the "attack prayer".
I did like the headless monks though. They were cool particularly liking the "attack prayer".
bahumat42 said:
Matt Smith has signed on for one more series, maybe they can change the past? So he has to live..somehow!
NikolaiK said:
Just because the Doctor is a pacifist doesn't mean he won't fight, just that he has rules...
(Even Hartnell nearly murdered a caveman)
you know what, how can River be the girl in the spacesuit? River doesn't remember being in a spacesuit or calling president Nixon or anything like that. Plus anyone else think that its weird that Amy keeps trying to shoot her own daughter..?
I just realised something really weird, possibly a clue.
In this episode, there's that scene where Dorium and Kovarian are talking across a table.
In The Pandorica Opens, an earlier episode, there's a scene where River and Dorium are talking across a table. River has a Kovarian-style hairstyle.
In the recent trailer, there was a shot of River with Kovarian's eyepatch.
It could just be a coincidence, but maybe the scene in TPO was a clue to something later on.
What do you think, Escapists?
In this episode, there's that scene where Dorium and Kovarian are talking across a table.
In The Pandorica Opens, an earlier episode, there's a scene where River and Dorium are talking across a table. River has a Kovarian-style hairstyle.
In the recent trailer, there was a shot of River with Kovarian's eyepatch.
It could just be a coincidence, but maybe the scene in TPO was a clue to something later on.
What do you think, Escapists?
I have no idea anymore. My mind is too unraveled when I think of Dr. Who. But, it could be a clue to what might happen in the secound half of the series.