Doctor Who Series 6.7 'A Good Man Goes To War' SPOILERS
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OK well, I guess it's time to be persecuted as an idiot as I did not see the Riversong thing coming. I suppose however this just meant it came as so much more of a sweet surprise.
I loved the episode and I think I'm actually beginning to like Matt Smith more than David Tennant.
I loved the episode and I think I'm actually beginning to like Matt Smith more than David Tennant.
It isn't over yet. He still has plenty of time to fall in the next episode. Who knows what Ms. Evil Eye-Patch is planning?CommanderKirov said:
One thing that confuses me, can River really be a Time Lord? Considering that she's also at least half human, she should be dead. At least according to Ten when Donna became half Time Lord herself.
Loved the episode, and am now wondering about 'Let's kill Hitler'. How on earth is that going to play out?
I'm definitely in for the next part of the series.
I'm definitely in for the next part of the series.
That's because it's a fanon wiki, and is completely imaginary.
I have a large number of complaints about the series as a whole, but I will focus on this episode specifically.
Firstly, The Doctor has been set up a completely pacifist after the Last Great Time War, a character who hates guns and violence and always tries to mediate conflicts, usually giving the enemies a chance to run away and never come back.
In this series, he orders genocide on The Silence, and seems pretty happy about the whole thing. Then, in this episode, he kills pretty much all of the 12th Cyberleague without provocation.
And there's Rory. In my opinion,the worst character developed in recent Doctor Who series. Why Steven Moffat seems to think that calling him the Lone Centurion makes him in any way cool or interesting I honestly do not know. When he demands to know where his wife is, I didn't think 'Oh good, he's finally manning up', I thought 'Arthur Darvill cannot pull badass off'.
And he can't. He is not a threatening person, and his actions throughout the series have portrayed him as a passive agressive moron jealous of The Doctor and Amy's close friendship.
Then there was the bit where The Doctor formed a team comprised of some genuinely good characters of whom Dorium Maldovar, Commander Strax and Lorna Bucket were killed for no good reason. Seriously, why form a team with characters who interact well, and provide a pleasant counterpoint to Mr Moffat's overbearingly awful brand of 'drama' (which usually consists of Rory repeating 'Doctor... I love her' in a flat monotone whilst the camera closes in on The Doctor's face looking bored, as indeed I am every time Rory opens his mouth and farts out another boring, pointless comment) and then kill them all off in the most undignified way possible, eg. for no gain whatsoever.
Then there is the foreshadowing. Or in Steven Moffat's case, the 'The only WATER in the FOREST is the RIVER.','I come from the Gamma FOREST','MELODY POND','OMG I'M SO CLEVER LOOK AT THE FORESHADOWING LOOK AT IT!! WAIT FOR IT THIS CHARACTER'S JUST HERE TO PROVIDE MORE FORESHADOWING OMG I'M SO CLEVER LETS ADD MORE RORY HE'S SO INTERESTING'.
(Sorry for all caps)
Finally, the bit near the end where Steve decides to blame The Doctor for everything.
Wait, what? A man who travels the universe, saving people, mediating conflicts and helping sort out problems is now known as a 'Great Warrior' in the Gamma Forests. Why?
The Doctor is a pacifist, almost to extremes, and suddenly it's his fault that Madam Kovarian and The Church have randomly decided that he is an enemy who must be destroyed, despite the fact he helped save them from the Weeping Angels last time they met.
It made me want to slap River Song in the face for being a stupid, pretentious, arrogant and annoying ('Spoilers ;P' = Hatred for Steven Moffat's infatuation with her.)character, who decides to blame The Doctor for everyone else's problems.
TL;DR
I hate Rory and River Song and I do not believe Steven Moffat is capable of carrying a season on his own
PS: Regarding the Cybermen, although the Cybus variety are extinct (or they were before the Deus Ex Machina Par Excellence that was 'Instead of doing research, i'll just get rid of all existing canon and write my own. I think i'll add more Rory..' universe reboot), the original Cybermen from Mondas are presumably still around. This is backed up by the dead Cybermen from 'The Pandorica Opens' containing a skeleton, whilst the only biological material Cybus type Cybermen had was a brain.
I have a large number of complaints about the series as a whole, but I will focus on this episode specifically.
Firstly, The Doctor has been set up a completely pacifist after the Last Great Time War, a character who hates guns and violence and always tries to mediate conflicts, usually giving the enemies a chance to run away and never come back.
In this series, he orders genocide on The Silence, and seems pretty happy about the whole thing. Then, in this episode, he kills pretty much all of the 12th Cyberleague without provocation.
And there's Rory. In my opinion,the worst character developed in recent Doctor Who series. Why Steven Moffat seems to think that calling him the Lone Centurion makes him in any way cool or interesting I honestly do not know. When he demands to know where his wife is, I didn't think 'Oh good, he's finally manning up', I thought 'Arthur Darvill cannot pull badass off'.
And he can't. He is not a threatening person, and his actions throughout the series have portrayed him as a passive agressive moron jealous of The Doctor and Amy's close friendship.
Then there was the bit where The Doctor formed a team comprised of some genuinely good characters of whom Dorium Maldovar, Commander Strax and Lorna Bucket were killed for no good reason. Seriously, why form a team with characters who interact well, and provide a pleasant counterpoint to Mr Moffat's overbearingly awful brand of 'drama' (which usually consists of Rory repeating 'Doctor... I love her' in a flat monotone whilst the camera closes in on The Doctor's face looking bored, as indeed I am every time Rory opens his mouth and farts out another boring, pointless comment) and then kill them all off in the most undignified way possible, eg. for no gain whatsoever.
Then there is the foreshadowing. Or in Steven Moffat's case, the 'The only WATER in the FOREST is the RIVER.','I come from the Gamma FOREST','MELODY POND','OMG I'M SO CLEVER LOOK AT THE FORESHADOWING LOOK AT IT!! WAIT FOR IT THIS CHARACTER'S JUST HERE TO PROVIDE MORE FORESHADOWING OMG I'M SO CLEVER LETS ADD MORE RORY HE'S SO INTERESTING'.
(Sorry for all caps)
Finally, the bit near the end where Steve decides to blame The Doctor for everything.
Wait, what? A man who travels the universe, saving people, mediating conflicts and helping sort out problems is now known as a 'Great Warrior' in the Gamma Forests. Why?
The Doctor is a pacifist, almost to extremes, and suddenly it's his fault that Madam Kovarian and The Church have randomly decided that he is an enemy who must be destroyed, despite the fact he helped save them from the Weeping Angels last time they met.
It made me want to slap River Song in the face for being a stupid, pretentious, arrogant and annoying ('Spoilers ;P' = Hatred for Steven Moffat's infatuation with her.)character, who decides to blame The Doctor for everyone else's problems.
TL;DR
I hate Rory and River Song and I do not believe Steven Moffat is capable of carrying a season on his own
PS: Regarding the Cybermen, although the Cybus variety are extinct (or they were before the Deus Ex Machina Par Excellence that was 'Instead of doing research, i'll just get rid of all existing canon and write my own. I think i'll add more Rory..' universe reboot), the original Cybermen from Mondas are presumably still around. This is backed up by the dead Cybermen from 'The Pandorica Opens' containing a skeleton, whilst the only biological material Cybus type Cybermen had was a brain.
OK, I just want to put this in context:
This episode had the Doctor attacking a giant space fortress with time traveling pirates, WWII-era pilots, a lesbian ninja lizard woman and her maid/lover, a giant blue fat man, a breast feeding, 12 year old, 5-foot tall alien warrior nurse, and a man who has, in his life, not existed and has also been a Roman centurion made of plastic, but is no longer either one of those things.
God, I love this show.
This episode had the Doctor attacking a giant space fortress with time traveling pirates, WWII-era pilots, a lesbian ninja lizard woman and her maid/lover, a giant blue fat man, a breast feeding, 12 year old, 5-foot tall alien warrior nurse, and a man who has, in his life, not existed and has also been a Roman centurion made of plastic, but is no longer either one of those things.
God, I love this show.
I know, they put us a week behind. But I found this episode on youtube, for now.canadamus_prime said:
I think the main point of the army against the Doctor was a good example of the people who see the Doctor as a warrior to be stopped, when he's actually just jumping through time dealing with the bad things. This is proven with a couple of points, first off is the army men and women themselves. The gay married couple activly praise him for destroying the 12th Cyber Legion and chasing the Atraxi off Earth before bringing them back to scold them.NikolaiK said:
Second is the character of Lorna. She has met the Doctor and knows how brilliant he can be. That's why she helps him instead of the the other army men that are just following orders.
Third is the Doctor's army itself. While some could argue that they were only there because the Doctor was collecting debts and the were honour bound to help him. That's not the case. It's obvious that the hold him in high regard. Every single one of them could have run away when they saw the TARDIS before them, even the awesome blue man, but they didn't. The Sularan (SP?) calls the Doctor a friend and the entire group choose to defend Melody rather than turn her over, knowing she is a weapon. Thus actively defending the Doctor.
My point is that there are obviously going to be 2 sides for and against the Doctor. It just pays to be on the right side.
I have no problem with there being two sides, my point is that by portraying The Doctor as one who revels in violence they are going against pretty much all previous characterisation.
The Fat Man and The Thin Man weren't so much praising him as talking about how scary and destructive he is. By making The Doctor behave in this way, people would think he is a great warrior who needs to be stopped. It's just completely out of character.
I'm sure the group who fought for The Doctor did it with honourable intentions, but they all died without gaining anything (Except for the Silurian, Vastra to be specific, you mentioned and her maid/lover Jenny).
I was quite annoyed that they wasted Dorium ('awesome blue man') by killling him off so quickly, but there are rumours that he will return in some form.
The Fat Man and The Thin Man weren't so much praising him as talking about how scary and destructive he is. By making The Doctor behave in this way, people would think he is a great warrior who needs to be stopped. It's just completely out of character.
I'm sure the group who fought for The Doctor did it with honourable intentions, but they all died without gaining anything (Except for the Silurian, Vastra to be specific, you mentioned and her maid/lover Jenny).
I was quite annoyed that they wasted Dorium ('awesome blue man') by killling him off so quickly, but there are rumours that he will return in some form.
I figured it out when she regenerated at end of Day of the moon, when she regenerated it reminded me that River's identity would be revealed and I figured the two must the same, and it was pretty obvious that the child was Amy's from what we saw in the first two episodes so it clicked.Popadoo said:
The only thing I couldn't figure out was how, I absolutely refused to believe that Rory wasn't the father so it left the question of how two humans could have a time lord baby.
My theories were something tardissy, that Rory or Amy were time lords, or that Amy's pregnany wasn't a true pregnany but a time lord was somehow using her womb to escape the time war.