Does any game deserve 10/10 or 100%?

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Anton P. Nym

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Ginja Ninja said:
Anton P. Nym said:
Long winded version of what has already been stated.
Which is, of course, why you quoted it in full.

And your "long winded" is my "actually backed by an argument of points instead of simple declaration."

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Ginja Ninja

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Anton P. Nym said:
Ginja Ninja said:
Anton P. Nym said:
Long winded version of what has already been stated.
Which is, of course, why you quoted it in full.

And your "long winded" is my "actually backed by an argument of points instead of simple declaration."

-- Steve
You see there is a nice shiny quote button next to comments it takes more effort to write "stuff" rather than quote it.

and wrong we have backed it up using once again using the nice shiny quote button... have a nice day.
 

Jaccident

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Anton P. Nym said:
Ginja Ninja said:
Anton P. Nym said:
Long winded version of what has already been stated.
Which is, of course, why you quoted it in full.

And your "long winded" is my "actually backed by an argument of points instead of simple declaration."

-- Steve
Still all your points were just the simple declaration compiled from other posts ;)
 

Ginja Ninja

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I like this bit:

Anton P. Nym said:
As I said in earlier incarnations of this stupid thread, anyone bitching about a game getting a perfect score has probably never aced a test in school and is bitter... or if they did, they need to have it marked down for penmanship or a minor spelling error or an improper crease in the paper because nothing's perfect. No A-grade (or 4.0GPA) for you, end of line!

-- Steve
Good idea but once again wrong. You can get 100% on a test because it is not searching for perfection it is searching for exact knowledge of which it asks for not exact knowledge of everything regarding it. =)
 

Ginja Ninja

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Jaccident said:
Anton P. Nym said:
Ginja Ninja said:
Anton P. Nym said:
Long winded version of what has already been stated.
Which is, of course, why you quoted it in full.

And your "long winded" is my "actually backed by an argument of points instead of simple declaration."

-- Steve
Still all your points were just the simple declaration compiled from other posts ;)
But the quotes backed up my point =)
 

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TheSear said:
I don't think any game is perfect or worthy of 100% or 10/10. If there was a game that was perfect surely everyone who played games would play it. A perfect game along with having no bugs and being amazing etc would also have to be infinitely replayable :p
You do realize there is a strange, mythical beast lurking out there? I think he's called "taste". When it's an FPS, it may not be to the liking of RPG fans, and vice versa, especially with RTSs. And nothing is perfect, since everything is flawed in one way or another, but then it shouldn't be a 10/10 scale, then it should be 9/9 (we actually are forbidden to use the 10, yeah) scale. 10/10 has been described as reviewers by "almost perfect for it's time", that means if you play it, there are no flaws that interrupt gameplay in any way etc. And games are mainly about fun too. If a game is insanely fun, without any fatal bugs, then it could get a 10/10 easily.
 

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Ginja Ninja said:
I like this bit:

Anton P. Nym said:
As I said in earlier incarnations of this stupid thread, anyone bitching about a game getting a perfect score has probably never aced a test in school and is bitter... or if they did, they need to have it marked down for penmanship or a minor spelling error or an improper crease in the paper because nothing's perfect. No A-grade (or 4.0GPA) for you, end of line!

-- Steve
Good idea but once again wrong. You can get 100% on a test because it is not searching for perfection it is searching for exact knowledge of which it asks for not exact knowledge of everything regarding it. =)
I think he was actually onto something there, I mean when judging a game you're not really looking for perfection, you're looking to tick off a bunch of requirements based on the type of game it is. Similar to taking a test.
 

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Fraught said:
TheSear said:
I don't think any game is perfect or worthy of 100% or 10/10. If there was a game that was perfect surely everyone who played games would play it. A perfect game along with having no bugs and being amazing etc would also have to be infinitely replayable :p
You do realize there is a strange, mythical beast lurking out there? I think he's called "taste". When it's an FPS, it may not be to the liking of RPG fans, and vice versa, especially with RTSs. And nothing is perfect, since everything is flawed in one way or another, but then it shouldn't be a 10/10 scale, then it should be 9/9 (we actually are forbidden to use the 10, yeah) scale. 10/10 has been described as reviewers by "almost perfect for it's time", that means if you play it, there are no flaws that interrupt gameplay in any way etc. And games are mainly about fun too. If a game is insanely fun, without any fatal bugs, then it could get a 10/10 easily.
Sorry but 9/9 is exactly the same 9 divided by 9 = 1 1 = pefection
 

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Ginja Ninja said:
Fraught said:
TheSear said:
I don't think any game is perfect or worthy of 100% or 10/10. If there was a game that was perfect surely everyone who played games would play it. A perfect game along with having no bugs and being amazing etc would also have to be infinitely replayable :p
You do realize there is a strange, mythical beast lurking out there? I think he's called "taste". When it's an FPS, it may not be to the liking of RPG fans, and vice versa, especially with RTSs. And nothing is perfect, since everything is flawed in one way or another, but then it shouldn't be a 10/10 scale, then it should be 9/9 (we actually are forbidden to use the 10, yeah) scale. 10/10 has been described as reviewers by "almost perfect for it's time", that means if you play it, there are no flaws that interrupt gameplay in any way etc. And games are mainly about fun too. If a game is insanely fun, without any fatal bugs, then it could get a 10/10 easily.
Sorry but 9/9 is exactly the same 9 divided by 9 = 1 1 = pefection
Your point is? And did you even read the part where I added "we actually are forbidden to use the 10, yeah" to the scale's name?
 

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It is all a matter of opinion. If you like a game, then you rate it higher than someone who does not.
 

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Jaccident said:
Ginja Ninja said:
I like this bit:

Anton P. Nym said:
As I said in earlier incarnations of this stupid thread, anyone bitching about a game getting a perfect score has probably never aced a test in school and is bitter... or if they did, they need to have it marked down for penmanship or a minor spelling error or an improper crease in the paper because nothing's perfect. No A-grade (or 4.0GPA) for you, end of line!

-- Steve
Good idea but once again wrong. You can get 100% on a test because it is not searching for perfection it is searching for exact knowledge of which it asks for not exact knowledge of everything regarding it. =)
I think he was actually onto something there, I mean when judging a game you're not really looking for perfection, you're looking to tick off a bunch of requirements based on the type of game it is. Similar to taking a test.
Maybe but I ignore silly people trying to us analogies (spell check) to prove a point not needed. Ok say a game gets top marks, right? What if another game comes along after it and you realise it is better than the first? If you had put 9/10 for the first you could argue that the second is closer too 10/10 than the first but not there. Where as if you put the first as equaling perfection you can't say the second is better. =)
 

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Fraught said:
Ginja Ninja said:
Fraught said:
TheSear said:
I don't think any game is perfect or worthy of 100% or 10/10. If there was a game that was perfect surely everyone who played games would play it. A perfect game along with having no bugs and being amazing etc would also have to be infinitely replayable :p
You do realize there is a strange, mythical beast lurking out there? I think he's called "taste". When it's an FPS, it may not be to the liking of RPG fans, and vice versa, especially with RTSs. And nothing is perfect, since everything is flawed in one way or another, but then it shouldn't be a 10/10 scale, then it should be 9/9 (we actually are forbidden to use the 10, yeah) scale. 10/10 has been described as reviewers by "almost perfect for it's time", that means if you play it, there are no flaws that interrupt gameplay in any way etc. And games are mainly about fun too. If a game is insanely fun, without any fatal bugs, then it could get a 10/10 easily.
Sorry but 9/9 is exactly the same 9 divided by 9 = 1 1 = pefection
Your point is? And did you even read the part where I added "we actually are forbidden to use the 10, yeah" to the scale's name?
Yes and it is irrelivent.
 

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Altorin said:
This basically.

I think people take the 10/10 system waaaayy to seriously. 100/100 or 100% I agree with, no game is perfect that way, but a 10/10 system is just generally in the 100% catagory (unless you add some decimals, but even then I don't care much). I mean, seriously, every time a game gets a 10/10 they completely forget that it's someone's opinion and go on saying "10/10 TRANSFERS TU 100% AND NO GAME IS 100% PERFECT SO YOU SUUUUUUKKKKK!@!$@#!$@#$"

I personally prefer the 5/5 system going;

1/5 = Pure shit, don't bother
2/5 = Mainly shit, but might be worth a rental or to fans of the genere/series.
3/5 = Average, it's a good game, could be worth your money.
4/5 = Very good game, definately get it if you have the chance.
5/5 = Extremely good game, get this game as soon as you can 'cause it will give you plenty of enjoyment!

And I think if you add .5s into it like 4.5/5 it could make the rating a bit more accurate without fucking up the whole thing, like how movies have 3.5/5 stars or something.
 

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Ginja Ninja said:
Maybe but I ignore silly people trying to us analogies (spell check) to prove a point not needed. Ok say a game gets top marks, right? What if another game comes along after it and you realise it is better than the first? If you had put 9/10 for the first you could argue that the second is closer too 10/10 than the first but not there. Where as if you put the first as equaling perfection you can't say the second is better. =)
yeah but you avoid the problem if you don't claim the first game to be perfect in the first place and say it's close to perfect and certainly does everything it was supposed to do! :)
 

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Jaccident said:
Ginja Ninja said:
Maybe but I ignore silly people trying to us analogies (spell check) to prove a point not needed. Ok say a game gets top marks, right? What if another game comes along after it and you realise it is better than the first? If you had put 9/10 for the first you could argue that the second is closer too 10/10 than the first but not there. Where as if you put the first as equaling perfection you can't say the second is better. =)
yeah but you avoid the problem if you don't claim the first game to be perfect in the first place and say it's close to perfect and certainly does everything it was supposed to do! :)
That is also a point earlier in the thread. But just having a game that hits it's targets being 10/10 means that declaring a game will have terrible graphics when it has good graphics qualifies it for 11/10 imeadietly (really spell check that).
 

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But it isn't a formula per say it's a , well it needed to do this, it does than and more, well done 10/10. All the judges hold up their cards, you take a bow in all directions and go stand beside your partner holding roses in one hand and victory in the other...I seem to have wondered somewhat off topic there...never mind.

Incidentally don't worry about spelling so much, the Grammar Gestapo aren't on duty this evening :)
 

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Jaccident said:
But it isn't a formula per say it's a , well it needed to do this, it does than and more, well done 10/10. All the judges hold up their cards, you take a bow in all directions and go stand beside your partner holding roses in one hand and victory in the other...I seem to have wondered somewhat off topic there...never mind.

Incidentally don't worry about spelling so much, the Grammar Gestapo aren't on duty this evening :)
I'm sorry I could be wrong (the argument of a figure of speech hasn't come up yet) but I feel as strong about this as I do about people saying "I want you to give 110%!"

Oh and grammar isn't the same as spelling =)
 

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No. My European Film teacher said it best when he said that humans cannot judge perfection. He gave As but never 100s. There will always be really great games, and even "best" games, but never a perfect game.

Two problems with reviews: 1) They need to be more in-depth for each game aspect, forsaking a number for more information, and include a category for "is it fun?" rather than an overall rating; and 2) people need to *read* the damn things instead of just looking at the number. I can't count the number of times that's made the difference on an average game for me.
 

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short answer: no

long answer: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 

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Sigh. I hate when people complain about scores. Here's a quote from another of these threads:
1. It's a score, not a symbol of perfection.
2. It's possible for a flawed game to have a perfect score.
3. If you think 9/10 should be the highest score possible then that is in fact a perfect score.