Does any game deserve 10/10 or 100%?

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Altorin

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NewClassic said:
As far as the numbering argument goes, it really depends on your scale. If I use numbers, I do it out of 100, only in multiples of five, which is precise enough to get the message across, but wide-spread enough to give some leeway without grading things on an absurd scale (lawl, this game gets a 7.213591 out of 9.71659).
I'm going to point out here that having a 100 scale where you only use multiples of 5 is the same thing as a 20 point scale, so you could use 1-20 if you wanted to, instead of just dicking around avoiding numbers like they were plagued decimals :p
 

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Insisting that a game has to be literally perfect to earn a perfect score is a little much. It has to be insaney good, from almost any conceivable way of looking at it, but not literally perfect.
 

Goldbling

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In short...No, its impossible there will always be one flaw, but some wold argue that in a few games their flaws make the game fun and enjoyable
 

Altorin

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bleachigo10 said:
Ginja Ninja said:
bleachigo10 said:
Ginja Ninja said:
bleachigo10 said:
Ginja Ninja said:
Fanboy said:
Ginja Ninja said:
1. Yes but it must be reprentative to other games out otherwise it would be pointless so it suggests perfection.
2. Did you? When? Our suggestion does make sense anyway, it is your fault if you cannot see the sense possibly due to your lack of sense.
3. Best score is the highest score it can achieve within reason. Perfect score is the highest score it can achieve ultimatly. 9/9 would be perfection but 9/10 wouldn't because it is not 10/10.
You are suggesting that no game can achieve a 10/10 because no game is perfect. That makes the 'best score' a game can receive the exact same thing as the 'ultimate score' it can receive. If something is not achievable it can't be included in the grading system.

Scores aren't a symbol of the game's quality, they are not the end all factor of it's overall greatness; They are numerical representation of what the reviewer thought of the game. If it did everything the way the reviewer wanted it to and then some, I don't see why it shouldn't be given a 10.
Who said it is not achievable? It is basic fact that nothing is perfect, but theoretically perfection is achievable.

Yes they are, to both. The reviewer cannot see it as perfect unless he is a very small minded individual.

bleachigo10 said:
a game can definetly get a 10/10 but not a 100% because that would be like saying the game is perfect and no game is perfect
10/10 has the same numeric value as 100%, 1.
just because a game gets a 10/10 does not mean its perfect
What have you been smoking?
crack, what about you
Pretty sure you sniff crack.
i thinks its cocaine that people sniff, crack is smoked, with a bong
you snort coke. Sniffing it wouldn't get enough up your nose to get any measurable effect after a while.
 

ChromeAlchemist

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no game deserves 100%

100% means you can come back to this game in five or ten years time and there could be nothing that could be done to improve its gameplay mechanics etc

Altorin said:
bleachigo10 said:
Ginja Ninja said:
bleachigo10 said:
Ginja Ninja said:
bleachigo10 said:
Ginja Ninja said:
Fanboy said:
Ginja Ninja said:
1. Yes but it must be reprentative to other games out otherwise it would be pointless so it suggests perfection.
2. Did you? When? Our suggestion does make sense anyway, it is your fault if you cannot see the sense possibly due to your lack of sense.
3. Best score is the highest score it can achieve within reason. Perfect score is the highest score it can achieve ultimatly. 9/9 would be perfection but 9/10 wouldn't because it is not 10/10.
You are suggesting that no game can achieve a 10/10 because no game is perfect. That makes the 'best score' a game can receive the exact same thing as the 'ultimate score' it can receive. If something is not achievable it can't be included in the grading system.

Scores aren't a symbol of the game's quality, they are not the end all factor of it's overall greatness; They are numerical representation of what the reviewer thought of the game. If it did everything the way the reviewer wanted it to and then some, I don't see why it shouldn't be given a 10.
Who said it is not achievable? It is basic fact that nothing is perfect, but theoretically perfection is achievable.

Yes they are, to both. The reviewer cannot see it as perfect unless he is a very small minded individual.

bleachigo10 said:
a game can definetly get a 10/10 but not a 100% because that would be like saying the game is perfect and no game is perfect
10/10 has the same numeric value as 100%, 1.
just because a game gets a 10/10 does not mean its perfect
What have you been smoking?
crack, what about you
Pretty sure you sniff crack.
i thinks its cocaine that people sniff, crack is smoked, with a bong
you snort coke. Sniffing it wouldn't get enough up your nose to get any measurable effect after a while.
maybe its arse crack? there's a serious buzz waiting for you there ;-)
 

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This may sound a bit out there but...

In the score 8/10, 2/10 or 9/10, you are basically comparing the game you are reviewing (aka. the 8, 2 or 9) to a perfect game (aka. the 10). The only problem is that if the idea of a perfect "10" is a game that can never be reached, than all scores are inaccurate, because they are being compared to a game that has, and never will, be created.
What I am saying is that only 1 game can be a perfect "10", and that game will be the mark for other games to compare themselves to, until a game comes out that is better than that game, in which case that would be the new perfect "10"
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If that made no sense to you and/or you think I'm stupid and crazy, look up the top rated games on Metacritic. There was no game with a "100" average.
 

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mrfishyfish said:
This may sound a bit out there but...

In the score 8/10, 2/10 or 9/10, you are basically comparing the game you are reviewing (aka. the 8, 2 or 9) to a perfect game (aka. the 10). The only problem is that if the idea of a perfect "10" is a game that can never be reached, than all scores are inaccurate, because they are being compared to a game that has, and never will, be created.
What I am saying is that only 1 game can be a perfect "10", and that game will be the mark for other games to compare themselves to, until a game comes out that is better than that game, in which case that would be the new perfect "10"

That being said, the only perfect "10" in the world is Pong.
Thankyou, that is basically the gist of what I think (except the pong part).
 

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Altorin said:
bleachigo10 said:
Ginja Ninja said:
bleachigo10 said:
Ginja Ninja said:
bleachigo10 said:
Ginja Ninja said:
Fanboy said:
Ginja Ninja said:
1. Yes but it must be reprentative to other games out otherwise it would be pointless so it suggests perfection.
2. Did you? When? Our suggestion does make sense anyway, it is your fault if you cannot see the sense possibly due to your lack of sense.
3. Best score is the highest score it can achieve within reason. Perfect score is the highest score it can achieve ultimatly. 9/9 would be perfection but 9/10 wouldn't because it is not 10/10.
You are suggesting that no game can achieve a 10/10 because no game is perfect. That makes the 'best score' a game can receive the exact same thing as the 'ultimate score' it can receive. If something is not achievable it can't be included in the grading system.

Scores aren't a symbol of the game's quality, they are not the end all factor of it's overall greatness; They are numerical representation of what the reviewer thought of the game. If it did everything the way the reviewer wanted it to and then some, I don't see why it shouldn't be given a 10.
Who said it is not achievable? It is basic fact that nothing is perfect, but theoretically perfection is achievable.

Yes they are, to both. The reviewer cannot see it as perfect unless he is a very small minded individual.

bleachigo10 said:
a game can definetly get a 10/10 but not a 100% because that would be like saying the game is perfect and no game is perfect
10/10 has the same numeric value as 100%, 1.
just because a game gets a 10/10 does not mean its perfect
What have you been smoking?
crack, what about you
Pretty sure you sniff crack.
i thinks its cocaine that people sniff, crack is smoked, with a bong
you snort coke. Sniffing it wouldn't get enough up your nose to get any measurable effect after a while.
ok can we get off the topic of drugs please?
 

superbleeder12

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I think that a 'Perfect' score pretty much means that this is an example of what all games of this genre should aspire to be.

For example, GTA 4 got a lot of 100%'s. I mean the game does have its flaws, every game does. But those aside, any sort of sandbox game should look to GTA 4 to see "how its done"
 

Turtleboy1017

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I don't believe there will ever be a perfect game. Ever. Until then lets just settle for those 98 percents, huh?
 

A Papercut 000

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Jade Empire, I think it's as close as you can get to perfect.

Ofcourse there is always the person who will say it's just not their kind of game. But that is a load of crap. Anyone can be conditioned to enjoy a video game. Doesn't matter what kind it is.
 

Arcadia2000

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What I think is interesting is that suddenly people are throwing out games that are +10 years old and calling them perfect. But we have better graphics now! And better processors! Online play! Why are games that were 2D platformers suddenly perfect?

Let me throw a bit of "Educational" terminology out at you for something to gnaw on. Teachers who assign papers have to grade papers, and grade them fairly. It's not the same as math, wherein a problem is either right or wrong. They create something called a "rubric." (ROO-brick) A rubric is a grading scale that tells you exactly what you have to do to achieve a target score. Generally, there are a max of about five levels of proficiency (imagine that...) and a general minimum of three (something like: "good," "average," "poor"). If you meet all the criteria listed under the maximum score possibility, then you get an A or "good." What a game reviewer theoretically does is subject the game to be reviewed to the rubric that has been created for the purpose of rating it.

The inherent difficulty in this is that when games are designed, the designers don't have the rubric in front of them, like a teacher would do for the class, so the designer doesn't know what the game will be subjected to when it's time for the game to be reviewed. On top of that, a teacher generally has a very specific rubric for each project or paper that is being graded. English and Science papers wouldn't (insert: "should NEVER") have the same rubric because the different subjects have different objectives. Different games shouldn't be subjected to the same rubric because different games have different objectives (aside from FUN).

While this would be a great deal more fair, this would also be a great deal more work: each genre of game should have its own rubric to be graded on. (And then, there are always games that don't really fit much of anywhere.) Would you want FFT to be subjected to the same criteria that CoD4 would be? Donkey Konga and Eternal Darkness? Starcraft and Hello Kitty Online? I think I've made that point.

If you equate perfection with 100% in a game, then since nothing is truly perfect then, no, it will never deserve a 100% score.
If you equate 100% with "met the maximum standards" then it's likely by now that plenty of games deserve that rating.
But is it your definition that determines the outcome? Why doesn't someone ask the reviwers what their definitions are, so that everyone will be on the same page. The problem to me here is that no one has asked the reviewers to show us their rubrics. We're just seeing the final scores. It's what they are rating the games by that matter.
If the reviewers don't think that 10/10 means a game is the second coming of Jesus, they why should we interpret it that way?
 
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Depends how the person is judging it. If it's on standard quality, no game will be perfect. But if it's on enjoyment and fun, then I think it's definitely possible, but will vary from one person to another.
 

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Of course they are both possible.

Why does it have to mean perfection?

We all know perfection isn't achievable, but if you classed 10/10 as a revolution or pinnacle of gaming then it's definitely possible.
 

PureChaos

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let's see: LoZ: Wind Waker got 10/10 in pretty much in every review it face, but is there anyone here that would give the game 10/10? i certainly wouldn't, I'd give it about 8/10
 

thatotherguy2

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In my opinion no because there wil lalways be a few glitches for some games loading times and of course there is always going to be a few issues so no on 100 yeson 10/10