Does any game deserve 10/10 or 100%?

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SomeBritishDude

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Numbers mean shit. I ignore them, and base my decistion on the actual reviews rather than the outcome. GTA got 10s all across the board, so did Halo and CoD 4. There not bad games at all, they're just not tens, some of them arn't even nines. But really, like I said, the numbers mean nothing.
 

Altorin

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SomeBritishDude said:
Numbers mean shit. I ignore them, and base my decistion on the actual reviews rather than the outcome. GTA got 10s all across the board, so did Halo and CoD 4. There not bad games at all, they're just not tens, some of them arn't even nines. But really, like I said, the numbers mean nothing.
I'll remind you that reviews, including the numbers, are by their very nature subjective, hence, if you don't like someone's 10 review, make an 8 review, and you'll both be right.
 

Galletea

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Metal Gear 4!. I jest. No game deserves 100% no matter how much I like it as there is no such thing as perfection. 10/10 on the other hand, maybe. Personally I don't like scores on games as the review and the score may not equate. So I ignore the numbers and read the review instead. And then ignore that too usually.
 

Ginja Ninja

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Altorin said:
SomeBritishDude said:
Numbers mean shit. I ignore them, and base my decistion on the actual reviews rather than the outcome. GTA got 10s all across the board, so did Halo and CoD 4. There not bad games at all, they're just not tens, some of them arn't even nines. But really, like I said, the numbers mean nothing.
I'll remind you that reviews, including the numbers, are by their very nature subjective, hence, if you don't like someone's 10 review, make an 8 review, and you'll both be right.
Then what's the point in reviews? Maybe it would be better for reviewers to put down the types of games they like and why then give scores to say whether they like this game then if you know what the reviewer likes you can work out whether you yourself would like it.
 

Altorin

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it's getting really late, so I know what I said right there didn't make a whole lot of sense.

but there was a grain of truth in there somewhere. :p
 

Ginja Ninja

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Altorin said:
it's getting really late, so I know what I said right there didn't make a whole lot of sense.

but there was a grain of truth in there somewhere. :p
I'll search very hard for it!
 

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Altorin said:
5/5 yes
10/10 probably
100% no

THATS BULLOCKS! you might be saying.

It's not. If you are marking a game out of 100%, and you have 100 degrees that you can peg the game at, there is almost no way for a game to hit that benchmark. It's probably been done for some people, but other people will argue. All in all though, that doesn't matter. If Assassin's Creed did EVERYTHING I wanted it to, and I loved it more then god, and I decided to give it 100%, you saying 'No way' wouldn't make my opinion any less valid.

10/10 maybe.. well, again this is judging if you allow only whole numbers. If you allow for decimals, like 7.5/10, then that isn't actually 10 degrees, depending on how much freedom you have past the decimal, it could be a 100 degree system (allowing a single decimal place with 0-9 after it) to something even crazier (more decimal places). If you use only whole numbers, a 10/10 game doesn't need to be NEARLY as flawless and perfect as it does to warrant a 100% score. 10/10 and 100% in the world of reviews are two entirely different fish.

Now we get to the 5/5 rating system, which is actually the one I trust the most when it comes to rating systems. Again, if you allow a decimal place, you can increase the degrees from 5 to some arbitrarily high number, but most only allow for halves, similar to star ratings (like a 4 and a half star restaurant). If you allow for halves, then a 5/5 is basically a 10 degree system, soa 5/5 should occur about as frequently as a whole number 10/10, which is to say, not very often, but not "never". If you allow only whole numbers in a 5/5 scale, then that's only 5 degrees. A lot more games can afford a 5/5 rating, even games that have several large flaws in them. If they're fun and they're playable, they can have a 5/5.

I basically wrote that exact post out in my own words before spotting it was already done ¬_¬
 

Altorin

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I think it's reviews are MAINLY subjective things.

A game may have faults, but some people may enjoy the game that they don't even notice them, or other people may not consider them faults.

Don't worry, I'm going to bed now, I'll be returning to my senses soon enough.
 

Ginja Ninja

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Altorin said:
It's funny that you get it, you clearly get it, but then suddenly you don't get it.

yes, if you use decimals to rate a game, it IS exactly like using %s, 7.2 IS 72%. And if you do use decimals, it will be nigh impossible for a game to reach 10/10, which basically means 100%.

threshold for highest score:

100% = 100%
50/50 = 99%
20/20 = 97%
10/10 = 95%
5/5 = 90%
If we are doing it your way:
100% = 100%
100/100 = 99% (100 divided by 100 = 1 and 100 - 1 = 99)
50/50 = 98% (100 divided by 50 = 2 and 100 - 2 = 98) (Edit)
20/20 = 95%
10/10 = 90%
5/5 = 80%

That has to be it because 5/5 is half of 10/10 because the scores do not attually represent fractions, they are really represnting numbers by other numbers, if you can see the difference. =P
 

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Since most "professional" reviews these days seem to be based on the reviewer reading the back of the box then putting a tick where the game features what it said it would feature, 10/10 is certainly attainable :)
 

Ginja Ninja

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SirSchmoopy said:
Altorin said:
Fuck numbers, I'm gonna make a review site that doesn't use that shit and just has a picture of a Farm Animal for the games score.

ALRIGHT TODAY I AM REVIEWING FABLE TWO. BEING A DECENT GAME WITH A SHITTY ENDDING FABLE TWO DESERVES GENEROUS SCORE OF DUCK!

WE HERE AT BULLSHITGAMEREVIEWERS.com THOUGHT ABOUT GOING FOR THE PIGGLET BUT DECIDED ON THE DUCK FOR THE LACK OF ENDING AND THE FACT I CAN'T SHOOT CHILDREN.


I'm going to bash my head into a wall now. Carry on.
I hope you will be very happy. I can certainly see that is going to work... is duck high or low?
 

WraithGadra

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Not this again.

To the people arguing that "no game is perfect", you're forgetting that a review is not a test. A "perfect" score does not equal a flawless performance, it merely asserts a reviewer's opinion that the game is very enjoyable and whatever flaws it has do not overshadow the enjoyment. This is ignoring the practical arguments (i.e. There's no reason to have a score if you're never going to use it). Also, no one has to agree with a review for it to be valid, given that game reviews are inherently subjective endeavors.
 

Jaccident

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I think Duck is a 6/10 ... oh I seemed to have somewhat missed the point of the new system :p

Just a note on people saying numbered reviews are pointless. They are only pointless if you disagree/do not trust the source. I've read Edge since it started and there have been very few times I've felt that their score massively contradicted my feelings on a game, yeah them may be a touch harsh sometimes or lenient on an older series as most folk are, but in general I find their numbers spot...wait for it...on! :)
 

Ginja Ninja

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Jaccident said:
I think Duck is a 6/10 ... oh I seemed to have somewhat missed the point of the new system :p

Just a note on people saying numbered reviews are pointless. They are only pointless if you disagree/do not trust the source. I've read Edge since it started and there have been very few times I've felt that their score massively contradicted my feelings on a game, yeah them may be a touch harsh sometimes or lenient on an older series as most folk are, but in general I find their numbers spot...wait for it...on! :)
In your opinion because you like the same attributes in a game as their reviewers do. =)
 

Gedo

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Yes, some games deserve such high scores. I always look at the scores, as if they were comparing them to predecessors or games released at the same time.

For instance, Metal Gear Solid 4 was very superior to its predecessor, and also superior to many games released at the time it was released, therefore, I think it deserved those 10 / 10's it got from Gamespot and IGN. (Considering these sites have only given out like six or seven 10's in their history.)
 

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In short I think that if the game the reviewer is reviewing ticks all the right boxes and dots all the i's then they might feel compelled to give that game the highest level of praise they can offer. 9/10 or 99/100 just might be scoring too harshly in that one persons eyes. If there was one game that I personally would give my top besterest score to then it'd be Banjo-Kazooie. Yeah, there's a flaw to it, the total lack of multiplayer, but I'mma still gonna give it top marks because it's in my eyes the cutest, funniest and inventive (for it's time) platform game around. Whilst it doesn't fulfill my every last wish about what a game should have (moar multiplayer, also, what do I do with those last two Jigsaw pieces!!!? PLEASE!!!) it meets the criteria in my opinion for a 100/100. And if anyone thinks that that's not the way the system for scoring works then I've got two balls for you chin.
 

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Ginja Ninja said:
Jaccident said:
I think Duck is a 6/10 ... oh I seemed to have somewhat missed the point of the new system :p

Just a note on people saying numbered reviews are pointless. They are only pointless if you disagree/do not trust the source. I've read Edge since it started and there have been very few times I've felt that their score massively contradicted my feelings on a game, yeah them may be a touch harsh sometimes or lenient on an older series as most folk are, but in general I find their numbers spot...wait for it...on! :)
In your opinion because you like the same attributes in a game as their reviewers do. =)
Yeah that was pretty much my point, I'm a "Games are art" prick so I value the opinion of other "Games are art" pricks :)
 

Vires Vox

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10/10 doesn't mean that the game is perfect, it just means, when compared to other games that are out at this time, it is the best that can be expected from a developer at this current time. 100% is a little bit more ambiguous as I'm not sure how you would split up a game into percentage, especially when some games are larger than others but get a similar score, as percentage is usually attributed to an amount.
 

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Gedo said:
Yes, some games deserve such high scores. I always look at the scores, as if they were comparing them to predecessors or games released at the same time.

For instance, Metal Gear Solid 4 was very superior to its predecessor, and also superior to many games released at the time it was released, therefore, I think it deserved those 10 / 10's it got from Gamespot and IGN. (Considering these sites have only given out like six or seven 10's in their history.)
I. DISAGREE.

Okay, I haven't played MGS4, but I've heard a lot of positives and negatives for the game, and it just seems like it's a much inferior game to Subsistence. Besides, I would say that Subsistence itself is a 10/10 game, so I very much doubt any sequel could be much better. If anything, the focus on gunplay and inclusion of an infinite ammo tranq gun and octocam seems like it would completely undermine the skillful stealth the series has always been about. MGS seems like it's always been more fun when your character is sneaking around unseen, and the combat has never been real great. Despite the engine reworking, I doubt it's gotten much more fun.

So, reviews. Well, this topic has kind of been run into the ground. I like Gamespy.