Does anybody encounter this problem frequently?

[Supreme Unleaded]

I think your family should go back to collage and get a PHD in stupidity, can i take a guess and say their Americans as well.

No, they are Canadians. My Father is from newfoundland though. My uncle LIVES in America.

Okay, It just sounds very American, and no one call me a steriotype because I'M an American and i see shit like this every fucking day.

 

[Deleted]

Its the same as the 'yo mama' line, but he was your father so he couldn't use it.

Arguing with closeminded parents never works, they'll always win if they want to. "You are not right about the problem because- clean your room. That's why."

 

[Antlers]

When you try to use simple logic on the 'uncomprehensive' shall we say, It sort of has an adverse effect. In other words, they use being dumb as an immunity to common argumental tactics. Use big words on them, it goes in one ear and out of the other. It's a war of attrition with those people, see how many words you can throw in, regardless of quality or size, and if it's more than the other person, you win. An argument with anybody with the least bit of culture goes much more calmly.

And yes, I've been accosted for my big words before also. Pfft, like it's a flaw...

You're making a big deal out of nothing. I understand big words but people who talk like they're reciting a Charles Dickens novel just come across as pretentious. Because they are. It isn't belittling (sp?) the intelligent, it's belittling the pretentious.

Granted, using big words for big word's sake is pretty silly, but if you understand the value of a large vocabulary, there's no problem with using that knowledge to your advantage. The more words you know, the easier it is to formulate a sentence without sounding the same.

True. But it's very obvious if you're actually intelligent, or if you're just a prat. I'm all for being articulate but sometimes the smartest people can express themselves so that the most ignorant people can understand.

 

[TheNumber1Zero]

nope,I don't use big words.

although I have grown quite fond of itadakimasu and gochisosoma,they are not however good arguement material,considering the meaning

 

[captainwolfos]

Personally, I do have a reasonable vocabulary (which I mostly use for writing), but I tend not to speak where possible because the sound of a lot of people's voices annoy me.

 

[Captain Pancake]

When you try to use simple logic on the 'uncomprehensive' shall we say, It sort of has an adverse effect. In other words, they use being dumb as an immunity to common argumental tactics. Use big words on them, it goes in one ear and out of the other. It's a war of attrition with those people, see how many words you can throw in, regardless of quality or size, and if it's more than the other person, you win. An argument with anybody with the least bit of culture goes much more calmly.

And yes, I've been accosted for my big words before also. Pfft, like it's a flaw...

You're making a big deal out of nothing. I understand big words but people who talk like they're reciting a Charles Dickens novel just come across as pretentious. Because they are. It isn't belittling (sp?) the intelligent, it's belittling the pretentious.

Granted, using big words for big word's sake is pretty silly, but if you understand the value of a large vocabulary, there's no problem with using that knowledge to your advantage. The more words you know, the easier it is to formulate a sentence without sounding the same.

True. But it's very obvious if you're actually intelligent, or if you're just a prat. I'm all for being articulate but sometimes the smartest people can express themselves so that the most ignorant people can understand.

That's pretty true also. You have enlightened me

 

[Antlers]

When you try to use simple logic on the 'uncomprehensive' shall we say, It sort of has an adverse effect. In other words, they use being dumb as an immunity to common argumental tactics. Use big words on them, it goes in one ear and out of the other. It's a war of attrition with those people, see how many words you can throw in, regardless of quality or size, and if it's more than the other person, you win. An argument with anybody with the least bit of culture goes much more calmly.

And yes, I've been accosted for my big words before also. Pfft, like it's a flaw...

You're making a big deal out of nothing. I understand big words but people who talk like they're reciting a Charles Dickens novel just come across as pretentious. Because they are. It isn't belittling (sp?) the intelligent, it's belittling the pretentious.

Granted, using big words for big word's sake is pretty silly, but if you understand the value of a large vocabulary, there's no problem with using that knowledge to your advantage. The more words you know, the easier it is to formulate a sentence without sounding the same.

True. But it's very obvious if you're actually intelligent, or if you're just a prat. I'm all for being articulate but sometimes the smartest people can express themselves so that the most ignorant people can understand.

That's pretty true also. You have enlightened me

Nice discussing with you!

 

[A Raging Emo]

That happens to me alot outside of the Forums.

I don't necessarily use big words, or complicated words, merely use words that mean what I wish to say. As I am also rather sarcastic, it means I get into arguemens with... Various others quite often.

They try to dis-credit me by making me look stupid because I am using words the majority (Well, the majority of people in my School Year) wouldn't understand.

I don't see how that makes sense, though; why would saying I'm stupid after I confused you make me look stupid?

 

[wilted_orchid]

This is the same man who was unaware that uncapable wasn't a word, and I sure as hell don't pull him up on it.

Hate to break it to you, but it's incapable.

Yes, well spotted, that was the point I was making. So, we can conclude that reading the context of what you're going to quote isn't your style, then?

 

[similar.squirrel]

This is the same man who was unaware that uncapable wasn't a word, and I sure as hell don't pull him up on it.

Hate to break it to you, but it's incapable.

Yes, well spotted, that was the point I was making. So, we can conclude that reading the context of what you're going to quote isn't your style, then?

Awww crap..
This is the last time I try to be smart =[.
I missed the point entirely. Apologies.

 

[akwardwhistle]

Heck yes! The language problem happens all the time when arguging with peers in my classes. Then the arguments just in with "pffft thats gay". With the being right problem; I'm in the school's marching band and I have this freshman (I'm a junior) who will not understand that I'm am more experinced than them and therefore know just a tad much more. Trying to tell them that "hey we're suppose to be over here for this part" or "you play this song like this" is impossible. I finally had to say to them, "It sucks being right all the time, but you wouldn't that feeling right?"

 

[wilted_orchid]

This is the same man who was unaware that uncapable wasn't a word, and I sure as hell don't pull him up on it.

Hate to break it to you, but it's incapable.

Yes, well spotted, that was the point I was making. So, we can conclude that reading the context of what you're going to quote isn't your style, then?

Awww crap..
This is the last time I try to be smart =[.
I missed the point entirely. Apologies.

It's hardly a hanging offence to mis-read something, now, is it?
I see no need to apologise whatsoever, but thank you all the same. =]

 

[martin's a madman]

When you try to use simple logic on the 'uncomprehensive' shall we say, It sort of has an adverse effect. In other words, they use being dumb as an immunity to common argumental tactics. Use big words on them, it goes in one ear and out of the other. It's a war of attrition with those people, see how many words you can throw in, regardless of quality or size, and if it's more than the other person, you win. An argument with anybody with the least bit of culture goes much more calmly.

And yes, I've been accosted for my big words before also. Pfft, like it's a flaw...

You're making a big deal out of nothing. I understand big words but people who talk like they're reciting a Charles Dickens novel just come across as pretentious. Because they are. It isn't belittling (sp?) the intelligent, it's belittling the pretentious.

Granted, using big words for big word's sake is pretty silly, but if you understand the value of a large vocabulary, there's no problem with using that knowledge to your advantage. The more words you know, the easier it is to formulate a sentence without sounding the same.

True. But it's very obvious if you're actually intelligent, or if you're just a prat. I'm all for being articulate but sometimes the smartest people can express themselves so that the most ignorant people can understand.

That's pretty true also. You have enlightened me

Nice discussing with you!

I have just read your entire back and forth. You both offered good points. Yes, looking up complex words just for the sake of people thinking you are intelligent is very well.. unintelligent to be honest. But the thing about people trying to make large vocabularies an insult like it is some sort of negative mutation. Yes, it is not "normal" to have such a wide selection of words when speaking. I suppose the message you are offering is the most important thing. So, if you want certain people to understand the message then you will have to adapt to their capabilities. That makes sense. It just bothers me that the way I speak naturally should be seen as a flaw. Thanks for the help boys. Edit: Oops sorry, just looked at your profiles. Thanks for the help boys and girls*.

 

[wewontdie11]

I was once explaining to my dad that the famous phrase from Star Trek "To boldly go..." is grammatically incorrect as the word order is wrong because boldly is an adverb separating the main verb of the sentence from "to", making it a split infinitive. At the time I was sure he didn't really understand what I was talking about but later I overheard a conversation he had with my mother that went along the lines of

Mam: "You didn't feed the dog right."
Dad: "I did! I gave him his food."
Mam: "That's not the right food, that's supposed to be for his breakfast."
Dad: "Well now you're just splitting infinitives."

I facepalmed fucking hard right then.

 

[dudeman0001]

the thing is if you are using big words just cause you know the other person doesn't or can't, then you are being a pretentious dick and lording your intelligence over them

when in a conversation/discussion/argument with a person, you should always cater yourself to their level of speech. if you try and speak above their level of vocabulary you are actually trying to prove you know more than them. it's also a sign of disrespect to the person

so yes your father was right in what he was saying

eager for a debate, are we? Well, alright. He wasn't going out of his way to cause confusion, the words just come naturally for him. The point he was trying to make was that he shouldn't be demeaned for using "big words" just like his dad shouldn't be demeaned for using "small words" and that he shouldn't have to go out of his way to talk like everyone else.

P.S. you didn't answer his question in your post!

 

[dudeman0001]

I think your family should go back to collage and get a PHD in stupidity, can i take a guess and say their Americans as well.

No, they are Canadians. My Father is from newfoundland though. My uncle LIVES in America.

editted due to the lack of a "delete post" option.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Occasionally my friends will stop me and ask what one of the words I just used meant, but they don't fault me for it.

 

[A Weary Exile]

Escapist, I am someone who has a large vocabulary and I get bored when words are repeated. Today, I was having an argument with my Father and my Uncle. Without going into details I dislike having certain "guests" in our, (My Father, Mother, Sister, Brother, Grandmother and My own) home. Instead of saying "I don't like having them here, they make us change certain things we do" I said "Their whole presence is an imposition". My Father replied "Oh, talk big words now".

I thought to myself that the sentence was one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard. I don't criticise them for having a limited vocabulary but they imply that I speak this way to hold some sort of pretentious weapon over them.

On another note, I am not someone who is unable to openly admit that I was wrong if indeed I was incorrect. That being said, my Uncle brought up in the arguement "Oh, he just has to be right, everybody is wrong besides him". Beyond the rudeness of referring to me as if I were not there, it also is a defence that is frequently used when people are wrong. They say this as an attempt to discredit someone who actually is correct while having no actual point to bring up for themself.

Now my question to you is this, does anything like this happen to you often?

I feel your pain. I consider myself very logical and whenever I get into an civil argument with someone they just interrupt and say I'm wrong not explaining their own position, merely saying that I'm wrong because I questioned them. When someone disagrees with me I want to make BOTH our positions known and each given it's own merit, though how little there sometimes may be in someone's stand.

As for your father he may have been speaking idiotically for ironic effect, or he's just an idiot.

 

[A Weary Exile]

I think your family should go back to collage and get a PHD in stupidity, can i take a guess and say their Americans as well.

No, they are Canadians. My Father is from newfoundland though. My uncle LIVES in America.

Okay, It just sounds very American, and no one call me a steriotype because I'M an American and i see shit like this every fucking day.

Ironic, you spelled "College" and "Stereotype" wrong, probably just accidental but still ironic.