Doesn't it fell like PC gamers are getting the shaft?
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Have you actually looked at any of the recordings in-game? You can't first person spec another player, which makes all but speed hacking unable to be 100% proved.ZeroKitsunei said:
VAC only really works with a dedicated server setup - yes, VAC will ban you in an indeterminate amount of time if it catches you cheating, but up until that point, you're able to continue on your merry way. Dedicated servers with good server admins get rid of this problem.
Punkbuster is terrible, nuff said.
Having said all of that, I don't think i've encountered a single cheater yet in MW3 (haven't played since Skyrim launched though). People are too quick to call hacks when they're just terrible players.
The Elite thing never really interested me anyway. There's enough stats in game for me to pour over, and I generally get bored of CoD around the time the first DLC hits, so I don't really feel that i'm missing much.
Anyway, back OT -
I personally feel pretty good as a majority PC gamer. There have been some brilliant titles this year that had their best versions on the PC, it's been a great year for gaming, and I personally haven't had any problems at all with any consoleportitis. I'm pretty sure i've got just about all the big releases on PC this year so far (except SR3).
Everybody knows that SR2 was a horrible failure on PC, mainly because support was dropped about two nano-seconds after release, which i'd probably put down to a decision from the publisher, not the devs.
MW3 was probably one of the most stable big PC releases of the year. Couldn't ask for anymore really.
Wow this many posts and not a single mention of Rage? Well then if no one else has I'll mention it. Rage was a horrible console port. There that's done. Well I have plenty of games to play on my PC like everything on GOG, a bunch of RTS games that are too many to name all of them (I have a lot of RTS games) and Guild Wars. People can say what they want I don't care I'll just ignore them and play what I want. Though I am confused why no one makes an RTS for the consoles and just adds mouse and keyboard support. It seems so simple.
I don't really notice this. There are only few console games and franchises that I would like to see on PC - Uncharted, Halo, Gears Of Wars, Red Dead Redemption.
I think that console gamers are the only ones who think that PC gamers have worse lives. We really have it good here - and we have consoles to thank for thank. I've bought my computer many years ago, and PC graphics are usually stuck one notch above consoles (with a couple exceptions like Crysis), so I don't need to buy anything. In terms of games, we do miss out on few good franchises, but we miss out mostly on the ton of God Of War ripoffs and other crappy games. However, most people forget that PCs have a lot of exclusives themselves, including many FPS, RPG and RTS games, not to mention absolutely awesome indie games like Minecraft.
So yeah, I prefer the way things are in PCs than consoles.
I think that console gamers are the only ones who think that PC gamers have worse lives. We really have it good here - and we have consoles to thank for thank. I've bought my computer many years ago, and PC graphics are usually stuck one notch above consoles (with a couple exceptions like Crysis), so I don't need to buy anything. In terms of games, we do miss out on few good franchises, but we miss out mostly on the ton of God Of War ripoffs and other crappy games. However, most people forget that PCs have a lot of exclusives themselves, including many FPS, RPG and RTS games, not to mention absolutely awesome indie games like Minecraft.
So yeah, I prefer the way things are in PCs than consoles.
Yeah not to mention being shat on with DRM because you can't trust those evil hackers with the audacity to play games on PCs to pay for stuff that's worth paying for.
No demo's, crap ports, crap menus, all around cheap garbage.
The hardest part of Mirror's Edge was the tutorial, because it spoke entirely in Xbox360 buttons (and the manual spoke entirely in keyboard commands), so I had to go back to the controls setup screen every time it gave me a key combination, and translate it back to keyboard commands. Which, by the way, were TGHF, instead of WSAD, because it used character input rather than keymapping, and didn't recognise anything with diacritics (since I'm using Svorak, the character input from WSAD is ÄOEA).
I've played other games where there was no way to change which gamepad buttons are used for what, and in any game I've played with a gamepad, I've had to use my gamepad's key customisation to be able to navigate the menus without switching back to the keyboard. On games menus that are designed to be navigated by gamepad (on a console), that's cheap.
Gameplay is getting silly. Play Arkham Asylum or Assassin's Creed with a keyboard and mouse, and the auto-aim and fixed camera angles make you want to vomit, if you always play games with a keyboard and mouse (I only use my gamepad for racing and 2D games). Not to mention Assassin's Creed having no Quit option in any of its menus, so after quitting three times to go through three equally useless interfaces, you still need to Ctrl+Alt+Delete to get to your desktop. I didn't mind that in Mortal Kombat for DOS, because I was so happy that such a faithful port had been made at all, but nowadays it's just rude.
By the way, Rage was written for consoles.
No demo's, crap ports, crap menus, all around cheap garbage.
The hardest part of Mirror's Edge was the tutorial, because it spoke entirely in Xbox360 buttons (and the manual spoke entirely in keyboard commands), so I had to go back to the controls setup screen every time it gave me a key combination, and translate it back to keyboard commands. Which, by the way, were TGHF, instead of WSAD, because it used character input rather than keymapping, and didn't recognise anything with diacritics (since I'm using Svorak, the character input from WSAD is ÄOEA).
I've played other games where there was no way to change which gamepad buttons are used for what, and in any game I've played with a gamepad, I've had to use my gamepad's key customisation to be able to navigate the menus without switching back to the keyboard. On games menus that are designed to be navigated by gamepad (on a console), that's cheap.
Gameplay is getting silly. Play Arkham Asylum or Assassin's Creed with a keyboard and mouse, and the auto-aim and fixed camera angles make you want to vomit, if you always play games with a keyboard and mouse (I only use my gamepad for racing and 2D games). Not to mention Assassin's Creed having no Quit option in any of its menus, so after quitting three times to go through three equally useless interfaces, you still need to Ctrl+Alt+Delete to get to your desktop. I didn't mind that in Mortal Kombat for DOS, because I was so happy that such a faithful port had been made at all, but nowadays it's just rude.
By the way, Rage was written for consoles.
Oh I know but I figured that someone would mention it so I figured it would be for me. Personally my outrage isn't them making it for consoles since I already knew this. They didn't really make it a secret and as long as it ran well I honestly couldn't care what it was made for. Unfortunately they couldn't even get the running well part right. The main reason I'm still pissed is that they basically gave everyone the middle finger now and haven't said a single word about the next patch or anything else about it. We get a "the next patch will be soon" every now and then but no date or amount of it is done just silence.efAston said:
Skyrim isn't better on PC. Most of the people I know who have Skyrim on PC would rather it on consoles because it randomly crashes back to desktop when ever it feels like it.Calibretto said:
OT: The OP raises some good points about why certain devs aren't releasing games on PC. The piracy one is a major thing. You can ***** and moan about how DRM isn't a good thing, but developers are trying to protect themselves against people stealing their property. That's what it is, stealing. It's the same with DVDs (region locking) and other crap.
The bad porting issue is just pure laziness though.
When you try to troll the thread, try to do it more subtle. You just look like a dick otherwiseTypeSD said:
Saints Row 2 was horrible ported to PC, but that games is a few years old now. Take a look At Saints Row The Third and it's vastly improved. The sniping is just the way PC gamers love it and it runs a lot smoother than Saints Row 2. Also the PS3 version of Saints Row 2 didn't get DLC either so that's a bad example.
Now PC gets horrible ports, that's true and it's really sad. However there are a lot of games that are exclusive or simply look better on PC, we get digital distribution so we wont need human contact and usually we get the best online experience.
We are getting the short end of the stick a lot, there's no denying it. However PC gaming is still thriving.
Now PC gets horrible ports, that's true and it's really sad. However there are a lot of games that are exclusive or simply look better on PC, we get digital distribution so we wont need human contact and usually we get the best online experience.
We are getting the short end of the stick a lot, there's no denying it. However PC gaming is still thriving.
So I take it that your part of the glorious PC master race and us unclean console gamers just aren't good enough for that stuff? You could have phrased that better without coming off as an asshole.Calibretto said:
If anything the only thing annoying about PC gaming is that the consoles are holding the graphics and physics engines back massively not because they are bad but because they are old.
Skyrim for example wasn't even made to take advantage of quad core :| and the 'Ultra' settings are really quite low. I'm personally waiting for an ini file that will take advantage of my system.
Skyrim for example wasn't even made to take advantage of quad core :| and the 'Ultra' settings are really quite low. I'm personally waiting for an ini file that will take advantage of my system.
To be honest PC's being hackable shouldn't be an excuse really :/ as xbox 360 is just as hackable albeit with abit more difficulty but once done you can download and burn off games just like downloading any PC game.
I think not 100% that the ps3 is the only console that has remained un hacked in the sense you cant download and burn off games, this may also be due to the fact most people do not have blue ray dvd burners but dual layer burners are cheaper and alot more common. Again not 100% sure.
Either way it doesn't really affect me personally at a point now where, im shamed to admit i do own all current gen consoles :/
I think not 100% that the ps3 is the only console that has remained un hacked in the sense you cant download and burn off games, this may also be due to the fact most people do not have blue ray dvd burners but dual layer burners are cheaper and alot more common. Again not 100% sure.
Either way it doesn't really affect me personally at a point now where, im shamed to admit i do own all current gen consoles :/