Dog-Fighting Game Pulled from Android Market

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Shadow-Phoenix

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mariofan1000 said:
I don't really see the big deal.

Dogs fighting. There's a lot of stuff much worse out there.
Exactly because apparently digital dogfighting is bad for the digital dogs.
 

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You know... take away the blood, say they faint and give them anime eyes... it's Pokemon.

The premise of raising an animal to fight / kill is not something new, the only difference is this is a real animal that has already been made to do this in real life. Somehow I don't see the exact same game, after swapping dogs for elephants, would get band in the same way.

While I don't condone the real life practice of dog fighting, censoring a game that includes it is wrong(from my point of view). At the same time, it's different than if the government censored it because as a private company you can dictate(to a point) what's right and wrong and censor accordingly.
 

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Well, that game probably just got a whole lot more publicity from this "controversy" bit than the attention it would ever garner from being somewhere in the obscure corners of Android Market. So I'm guessing it'll see release as an unofficial app for open platform smartphones and PC soon anyway.

So congratulations to Android Market for giving this game better publicity than money could buy, and more sympathy (and perhaps protest purchases) than its unpleasant content would have ever garnered on its own.

I'm considerably more disdainful towards Android Market for censoring what adult consumers get to buy than I'd ever be towards some crappy game depicting entirely fictional dog fights between some fictional animated dog models.

...Guess I'll have to get the crappy dog game whenever it's released to make a private entity statement that regulating what adults get to buy is highly offensive to me. How I hate spending money on principle matters.
 

Darks63

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Just horrible as a owner of 2 dogs myself I cant understand the appeal of this crap.
 

Retronana

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Though I find that concept for a game unnerving technically there shouldn't be any reason why it can be legitimately taken down. There are far worse games floating around.


Also no michael vick jokes?, wow I am sorry to have judged you so harshly escapist.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Owlslayer said:
Seriously, is it just me or are you the pun-master of the Escapist (in a good way, of course)?
That sounds like fighting talk. There can be only pun.
Aren't you like the master of the Escapist TF2 group? The great group admin to rule them all? yes/no? Anyways, you can't be EVERYTHING on this site, man! Leave something to us little guys, with less than 20 000 posts.

Also: lovely pun. I am amazed how you people ( no Tropic thunder reference here!) can make them up, it seems quite easy. Hopefully one day I'll be able to think of a pun on my own and be proud of it.
 

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Suskie said:
I'm willing to bet that you could release a cockfighting game on the app market and no one would care. And that's not even counting the fact that a large portion of today's gaming industry revolves around people killing people. There's just something about dogs. I mean, I think the idea is in poor taste (especially since whoever made it was probably well aware that it would piss people off), BUT I think it should be allowed, because I believe in freedom of speech. Pulling this particular game simply for being distasteful seems dictatorial, unless the AppMarket has documented standards that this game failed to follow.

By the way, thanks to everyone in this thread for not throwing fuel into the let's-hate-Michael-Vick fire. As an Eagles fan, you can imagine I'm a little sick of hearing about that.
This. Yes, dogfighting is an actual problem. You know what else is an actual, much more serious problem? War. You know what glorifies war? Just about every major videogame on the market, from CoD to Halo. We need to think long and hard when a game about killing dogs raises more eyebrows than a game about killing people.

Also, anyone getting the irony that dogfighting is horrible, but Pokemon battles are family entertainment? Will Concentration Camp Tycoon finally get released if instead of Hitler and the Jews it's Gradov Hightower the Dwarf trying to exterminate the Elven vermin?

(Not invoking Godwin's law; Concentration Camp Tycoon is a pretty common go-to example for games that would be in such poor taste that they could never be released.)
 

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AC10 said:
This game should be put back on the market.
In Pokemon I can fight all animals I want. In Manhunt you can stalk and violently murder people to death with primitive weapons like palstic bags and shards of glass.

Why does this Dog game matter? You can't use any argument against it you couldn't against any other game. It allows you to simulate doing illegal things? Cruel things? Immoral things? Need I list you the amount of games that allow this?

In New Vegas I could fight Rad Scorpions in a ring; why is this game any different?
A game where you kill Obama would be pulled
A game where you torture pandas would be pulled
A game where you piss on holocaust victems would be pulled

Fictional versus real life
Stop pretending they're the same, they're not.

And radscorpians openly attack anything except radscorpians.
Dogs give love and affection unless tortured otherwise.

Spend 10 minutes in a practice arena where dogs are prepped, and if you are any kind of humane you would shoot the dogs dead right there. It is that bad.
Personally? I think free speech should also apply to people who shoot the fuckers who hide behind the 1st amendment to do whatever the hell they want.
 

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I think a huge part of the controversy is that we're desensitized to violence against people. That's why a lot of the people who claim to be opposed to this game would speak in favor of Rockstar's games that involve gorily murdering people by the dozen, or go along with bashing Jack Thompson.

In reality, though, it comes across as logically inconsistent to say one's more acceptable than the other. If we're going to say this game should be banned for glorifying dog fighting, then we're insinuating a lot of the M-rated market should be banned for glorifying murder. Just leave it be, unless you actually are part of the party who believes violent video games lead to violence.
 

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jakefongloo said:
AC10 said:
This game should be put back on the market.
In Pokemon I can fight all animals I want. In Manhunt you can stalk and violently murder people to death with primitive weapons like palstic bags and shards of glass.

Why does this Dog game matter? You can't use any argument against it you couldn't against any other game. It allows you to simulate doing illegal things? Cruel things? Immoral things? Need I list you the amount of games that allow this?

In New Vegas I could fight Rad Scorpions in a ring; why is this game any different?
A game where you kill Obama would be pulled
A game where you torture pandas would be pulled
A game where you piss on holocaust victems would be pulled

Fictional versus real life
Stop pretending they're the same, they're not.

And radscorpians openly attack anything except radscorpians.
Dogs give love and affection unless tortured otherwise.

Spend 10 minutes in a practice arena where dogs are prepped, and if you are any kind of humane you would shoot the dogs dead right there. It is that bad.
Personally? I think free speech should also apply to people who shoot the fuckers who hide behind the 1st amendment to do whatever the hell they want.
I guess you haven't played Postal 2 then? You can piss on anyone you want. You can silence your shotgun by sticking it up a cats ass and subsequently killing it. No one cared. In Call of Duty I can kill dogs, no one cared.

How are they more fictional than this game? None of them are real, all of them simulate reality.
 

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Spot1990 said:
RabbidKuriboh said:
this shit is worse than rapelay imo
What? How?
one simple reason amimals are 100% innocent and can never be deserving of callous behaviour such as torture in this case, people enacting horrors on each other is fine(for lack of better word) but don't enact it on the only truly innocent creatures of the world
 

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tanis1lionheart said:
So Pokemon is okay but this isn't?

o_O


I am confused.
The Escapist has a habit of jumping on games that feature acts that would be morally wrong in real life when they're not produced by a company rich enough to buy ad space. Go watch the rants on Rapelay and that school shooter thing. Then try to find one about Manhunt(by rockstar, an AAA company).