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I did not know that cannabis, if not smoked has any detrimental effects, can you name them?KillerMidget said:
Personally, I stay away from stuff that you can OD on.
that wasnt all that scary...i mean id be scared if somebody was in my shower, particularly myself with my skin rotting... but it didnt affect me all that much...of course im the "what the fuck is going on?" party so i guess you could say i care but dont care
The best 'no to drugs!' avengers are the drinkers, the smokers, the coffee drinkers and those who just love a red bull.
Drugs are not bad. People can be responsible with them, know the risks and use them sensibly, or they can be stupid with them, let their usage of whatever drug is their vice take over their lives, and be dicks to support it.
Addiction isn't the evil it's made out to be. It's how you manage your addiction that is the problem. Not all heroin users are 'junkies'. Some people love food so much it is an active danger to their health.
Drugs are not bad. People can be responsible with them, know the risks and use them sensibly, or they can be stupid with them, let their usage of whatever drug is their vice take over their lives, and be dicks to support it.
Addiction isn't the evil it's made out to be. It's how you manage your addiction that is the problem. Not all heroin users are 'junkies'. Some people love food so much it is an active danger to their health.
I don't think that Meth prevention adds are that effective. I say this because I (personally) don't think that there are throngs of people lining up to do Meth.
EDIT: Okay, video finally loaded. That was VERYweird. I have nothing else to say....
EDIT: Okay, video finally loaded. That was VERYweird. I have nothing else to say....
I'm also fairly convinced that seeing a scabby, horrific version of yourself in the shower at the same time as you means you're already on meth.
First, is that ***** blind?
Why, no, how the fuck do you not notice Smeagol's sister sitting in your damn shower?!
And second, no, this didn't do shit, except make me wanna go smoke a joint.
And then drop acid, and then eat some shrooms, and then have a nice cup of absinthe and coffee, then go to bed.
Like every night.
Why, no, how the fuck do you not notice Smeagol's sister sitting in your damn shower?!
And second, no, this didn't do shit, except make me wanna go smoke a joint.
And then drop acid, and then eat some shrooms, and then have a nice cup of absinthe and coffee, then go to bed.
Like every night.
According to the tip-toppy scientists of the universe it shall make you kill everyone in the vicinity or spawn numerous copies of yourself with different personalities (TV said so; it must be true).Hafrael said:
Go sit at your fucking cafe's drinking caffeine and discussing politics and culture you fucking junkies.
Don't sit there and preach to me. Don't think you're better than me because the drug you take is socially acceptable.
I'm sick of the discourse coming out of media and governments these days. Anybody with half a brain and with the will to research will know that alcohol is a horrible drug that is considerably worse than weed. I've never heard of ANYONE OD'ing off weed and if you do well then you totally suck dick and fail at life and you should be dead already.
I smoke about a 50 (3 sticks) a week, I go to uni and work part-time. My marks are good, I never take a sick day off work and I have a healthy relationship with my gf (aside from the times I've been caught). I'm a law abiding citizen, I don't kill, drive recklessly, nor fight. Yet you can sit at your fucking tables, coffee or beer in hand, pumped full of paracetamol from the bender you had last night and tell me I'm a fucking junkie? Fuck you, the world is made of stupid. I can't wait to move to Amsterdamn so I dont have to go on runs in the middle of the night for some weed and constantly look over my shoulder for fear of cops who will stop me because I have the unfortunate luck of being racially profiled.
These fear campaigns make me laugh, I've used smack and coke before, and the highs were well worth it, but I went into these drugs only for the experience, never for the lifestyle. The people who believe you turn into a skin peeling freak after one hit are the same people who suck and preach this shit up.
I keep saying it time and time again, what are people doing about prescription drugs? I got 2 scripts for panadeine forte the other day, that shit knocked me out harder than weed and I can easily go back for some more. Give some of those to the wrong people and see what comes of it. Prescription drugs are way too easy to obtain and it aint to hard to find a shoddy Indian doctor more than happy to prescribe it so he can get some patient flow.
Weed will never become a legalised drug in western societies. There are too many groups who will flog the shit out of the government for doing so, and heaven forbid the government will do such a thing to jepeodise itself. But if the government wants to control addictions and stem drug use then they have to deal with the real problems, but that's another issue altogether. Simply put, making an ad is sooo much easier and cheaper, so why not take the opportunity to show the public you are doing something in government? Junkies do a well enough job at keeping themselves out of sight so the government doesn't have to worry too much about them spoiling any of their wonderful campaigns.
Don't sit there and preach to me. Don't think you're better than me because the drug you take is socially acceptable.
I'm sick of the discourse coming out of media and governments these days. Anybody with half a brain and with the will to research will know that alcohol is a horrible drug that is considerably worse than weed. I've never heard of ANYONE OD'ing off weed and if you do well then you totally suck dick and fail at life and you should be dead already.
I smoke about a 50 (3 sticks) a week, I go to uni and work part-time. My marks are good, I never take a sick day off work and I have a healthy relationship with my gf (aside from the times I've been caught). I'm a law abiding citizen, I don't kill, drive recklessly, nor fight. Yet you can sit at your fucking tables, coffee or beer in hand, pumped full of paracetamol from the bender you had last night and tell me I'm a fucking junkie? Fuck you, the world is made of stupid. I can't wait to move to Amsterdamn so I dont have to go on runs in the middle of the night for some weed and constantly look over my shoulder for fear of cops who will stop me because I have the unfortunate luck of being racially profiled.
These fear campaigns make me laugh, I've used smack and coke before, and the highs were well worth it, but I went into these drugs only for the experience, never for the lifestyle. The people who believe you turn into a skin peeling freak after one hit are the same people who suck and preach this shit up.
I keep saying it time and time again, what are people doing about prescription drugs? I got 2 scripts for panadeine forte the other day, that shit knocked me out harder than weed and I can easily go back for some more. Give some of those to the wrong people and see what comes of it. Prescription drugs are way too easy to obtain and it aint to hard to find a shoddy Indian doctor more than happy to prescribe it so he can get some patient flow.
Weed will never become a legalised drug in western societies. There are too many groups who will flog the shit out of the government for doing so, and heaven forbid the government will do such a thing to jepeodise itself. But if the government wants to control addictions and stem drug use then they have to deal with the real problems, but that's another issue altogether. Simply put, making an ad is sooo much easier and cheaper, so why not take the opportunity to show the public you are doing something in government? Junkies do a well enough job at keeping themselves out of sight so the government doesn't have to worry too much about them spoiling any of their wonderful campaigns.
Never plan on using them, but our government made it mandatory to have picture on the front of cigarette packs and they're pretty horrific. I hate passing them at the supermarket.
That was a pretty awesome spot, OP.
I'd agree to saying "DON'T!" to harder things like meth, coke, heroin, etc., but when it comes to alcohol or marijuana it is different for me. I'd say to just be smart about it since I know people are going to do it anyway (kind of like sex, eh?).
I'd agree to saying "DON'T!" to harder things like meth, coke, heroin, etc., but when it comes to alcohol or marijuana it is different for me. I'd say to just be smart about it since I know people are going to do it anyway (kind of like sex, eh?).
on the history channel they have a series they show occasionly about drugs and there origins. its just strait up facts like it slows your heart rate and constricts cirrculation etc. its not going around saying drugs are bad blatenly. you need to be intelligent to know what it is talking about
That's all well and good, but the whole point of Jinx Dragon's post that you found so "insaulting" is that the education about the drugs that is given is a mix of truth and bullshit - which is very very harmful.open trap said:
I'll explain: Look at alcohol for an example. Let's say you've been taught that alcohol is very, very dangerous - drink it and you'll instantly feel terrible and start throwing up. Also, if you keep drinking for a long period, you're likely to suffer long term damage.
Then, you see some friends drinking - and they seem quite happy with it. At this point, you discover that the first thing you were taught is a lie - which leads you to ignore the other half of the message. Then, there's a risk that you'll see no downside to drinking - you'll start and then you won't stop. You don't feel terrible, you're sensible enough to stop when it starts to make you feel unwell, but you end up drinking every day.
The trouble is, the bit about the long term damage isn't a lie - 30 years of non-stop drinking ends up taking it's toll. Bang, heart attack.
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This is what your education about these drugs is doing. It claims meth is bad and causes a lot of harm, and that you really shouldn't be trying it. Good. That's a bloody noble cause. Then it goes and ruins it by saying that cannabis means you WILL get testicular cancer, you WILL move on to harder drugs, and you WILL become a paranoid schizophrenic. We _know_ that cannabis doesn't do that, so the danger is that we disbelieve the truth of meth being dangerous.
I'm going to overlook all the fuck off's and stuff, they tend to show a mentality that has no ability to truly comprehend an argument. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that your quick two sentence reply is because you feel your point is stronger then it really is, that you don't need to elaborate on how the education helps or what these ads achieve.open trap said:
Firsts lets have a look at that education shall we. How many people here can remember being told not to touch cannabis because it leads to harder drugs? That it will make you stupid by killing important brain cells? That it will make you go maaaaad?! And over all that it will ruin your life? No one really tells you facts such as a multi-million dollar banker is currently on the federal cannabis trails. Hell they don't even like mentioning the fact the federal government trailed cannabis before shelving it as soon as they realised they where not getting the desired results. t failed to prove the governments 'cannabis is useless as medication' stance and like many other government backed programs to find the dangers of cannabis it now has to be berried as deep as possible.
My argument is quite simple: These deliberate lies and obscuring of 'unsavoury' facts does NOT protect people from drug abuse. It makes them more vulnerable, as they will not have a true education into the subject matter. Trying to scare someone so they won't start doesn't work when they look at the drug culture later on and fail to see all the horror stories coming true. This is particularly true with cannabis, which is why I use it as an example a lot. Cannabis is the most common illegal substance you will be exposed to, and hence the most likely you will compare to what the government told you about it. Then you see the government is fill of shit on this one matter and are more likely to discard the rest, even when they might not have lied... such as with meth.
Oh and saying so and so TV shows or third party sources are doing a good job on educating about drugs doesn't cut it. They are not showing these series in schools and for the most part they are not letting them near the students. They are keeping up the 'scare them off drug' ridiculous bullshit. Cause the truth is not good for a setting of trying to prevent drug abuse, it really just raises the question on why so many illegal substance are illegal in the first place.
Now about these ads being there to teach people what you will look like afterwards? Well like I said they are too damn vague. There was no meth in the ad, it wasn't clear that she was going over to her friends house to do drugs, or that she was doing anything even relating to drugs... unless you consider sneaking out to be 'oh no, drugs!' Like I said, she looks more like a beat up whore and it more implied from the posture that A) drugs alone did it (after you find out this is a anti-drug ad) and B) it happened fast (as she still was young behind that grime.) Like I said, before the anti-meth tag on the end I was thinking the ad was about not letting yourself be abused. That alone means the ad failed big time: No recognition.
If this add was really focused on the long term effects why not do something that points out it is the long term effect. Why not take successful looking people in their young twenties, then 'age them' digitally till they are about sixty or so. Make sure you show underneath the age caption, so people can clearly see this is long term use. Beside that do the same but add in the common effects of meth, a label on top can clearly show which is which. As meth can mess you up physically the one with meth should look like a withered corpse by the time the ad is done. Then leave it as a open question to the viewer: Do you want to look like this? or something along those lines.
So I guess my biggest gripe with the ad: Don't make it damn vague!
I think the BIGGEST problem is that they categorize all illegal drugs as "Drugs"
Like they have anything in common (besides being illegal)
Anybody who knows anything about "drugs" knows that weed is less harmful than asprin.
But crack, meth, heroin, even (legal) pain killers are leaps and bounds more harmful & addictive.
It's like how they say weed is a gateway drug. No, weed isnt causing people to try other drugs.
It's the retarded drug campaigns that categorize them all together. As if they're the same.
Weed is prolific, so when people eventually come in contact w/ it, a certain percentage who dont do independent research and have been exposed to this "drugs are bad" marketing suddenly think that hey all "drugs" must be ok.
Like they have anything in common (besides being illegal)
Anybody who knows anything about "drugs" knows that weed is less harmful than asprin.
But crack, meth, heroin, even (legal) pain killers are leaps and bounds more harmful & addictive.
It's like how they say weed is a gateway drug. No, weed isnt causing people to try other drugs.
It's the retarded drug campaigns that categorize them all together. As if they're the same.
Weed is prolific, so when people eventually come in contact w/ it, a certain percentage who dont do independent research and have been exposed to this "drugs are bad" marketing suddenly think that hey all "drugs" must be ok.