Don't go to college (if you're in college, drop out)

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easternflame

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Seriously? You can't find a job and now we should all quit college? That is a pretty convincing argument, specially if we all consider we don't actually know you.

Look, sorry that you can't get a job and that you owe a shitton of money. Heck, it's probably not even your fault. The recession man. But still, this topic is kinda stupid don't you think?
 

A BigCup of Tea

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I've been making minimum wage for the last three and a half years working in a retail store. I only get about 20 hours a week. I owe $11,000 on my college loan (pretty low by most standards) for my bachelors of science degree in Business Administration. I've applied for dozens and dozens of jobs across two major cities over the last two years.

I recently applied to work at the local Pepsi warehouse which paid $13 an hour. At my workplace, I overheard someone mentioning that their friend got a job there. This friend never graduated high school. So yeah, don't bother going to school. Waste of your time and money. There's no defense of it. The only way I have the shit job I have now is because my dad worked there and complained to my old boss enough to hire me.
To be honest i think you have nothing to complain about, i went to college (granted i didn't spend £11,000) passed my course (in computer engineering or something similer, was a long time ago) and i've been jobless for 3 years even though i apply everywhere, the econemy sucks at the moment get over it, and yes some undergraduate got a job you went for maybe he had skills you didn't or maybe they thought you were overqualified. Point is man up and get over it something will come along you just got to stick with it!!

EDIT: Just to let you know i'm happy at the moment, yeah i'd like things to change but it's not like i can change anything about mine or your countrys economic state
 

Erttheking

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I don't follow your logic, just because you can't get a job doesn't meant that I won't. Hell I'm not even going for the same degree as you.
 

Bloodstain

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If everything goes well, I will be studying Philosophy by the end of the year.

Since I don't study for better chances at getting a job, but because I want to learn more about the subject that interests me the most, I don't care about how many money I earn later on. I want to spend my life occupying myself with philosophy. That's the sole reason I will be studying it.

Maybe you should have studied a subject you love more. Or maybe you should stop thinking that your situation applies to everyone and will always apply to everyone.
 
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I got a job at a Direct Sales Company based solely on my university dgree, and then when I left that (matter of principle) I was able to get my current job, again on the strength of having a university degree.

I know America is different and college is not the same as university in Britain and blah blah blah but the number of times I will read a job advert saying 'Requirements: University degree 2:2 or equivalent' is uncountable. It is nearly impossible to get a decent high paying job with room for promotion in the market today unless you have a higher education qualification.

One person missing out does not a trend make.
 

silversnake4133

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The problem here isn't the fact that people are going to college. The problem here is that people are all signing up for the same type of degrees: Business, Communication, Psychology, and any Art-related degrees. This country doesn't need anymore fricken artists, psychologists or people who think they'll own their own business someday. What we need are more Engineers, Heavy Machinery technicians, Physicists, Doctors, and Scientists. We need more people in the hard sciences and Industry fields to develop new and better technologies.
 

The Funslinger

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EcksTeaSea said:
So you went to school, didn't get a job with your intended major, and now college is bad for everyone and we should all drop out? No thanks. Bad luck for you though buddy.
Agreed. I have two older sisters, one has finished university and the other is nearly done. The oldest has a 20k+ a year job for a steel fittings company (not sure what her exact salary is, she won't tell me) and the other works for a pharmaceuticals company.

Snap.
 

IamLEAM1983

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As someone who's working on his Master's, I've got one piece of advice to give to the OP:

Study because you enjoy it, not because of peer pressure or job requirements. Pick what interests you. If you do, you'll be more than willing to put up with the associated debts.

Personally, I work off of parental cash transfers, one measly government grant and whatever I can scrape together from my job as a copy editor. I'm paid just a few hairs above minimum wage and I plan my expenses carefully. The end result is that I currently won't have much more to pay back than the government grant. I have no student loans and money passed on to me by the folks counts as a standard expense. Yes, I do still live with my parents, but I'm largely financially independent.

Times are indeed harsh, but don't give up, OP. Education is *never* wasted. Feel free to call me an idealistic cloud-shoveler, but I'd rather think of my degree as a personal challenge rather than a must-do or must-own for the purposes of employment. I know plenty of people who started studying in one field and found themselves working in entirely different sectors.

The key is to keep on trucking, and to make sure you have enough gumption to present a tantalizing prospect even when you're applying to a job posting that's entirely removed from the proficiencies you spent years developing. Above all, however, you have to have fun throughout this process.

As for college being a sad experience, it's probably related to how much you tried interacting or relating with others. You don't need to try to forge epic friendships that'll last you for life, but maintaining one or two contacts never has harmed anyone.

Above all, *never* be ashamed of your current situation. I've worked six jobs since I started working, from babysitter to interviewer to entry-level IT drone - and now I'm largely surviving off of other theses and memoirs I correct or translate at ten cents per word. I've seen guys who'd spent their lives busking on some of the worst corners of Montreal who considered ten cents above minimum wage to be an absolute godsend, and decorated Ph D's from the four corners of the world being stuck operating taxicabs because Canada doesn't recognize what's probably an entirely acceptable degree.

Here's the bottom line: you're employed, you have food on your table and a roof over your head. You're better off than two thirds of everyone on this sorry little globe. For every hour you spend at the Pepsi warehouse, you get to spend one enjoying life as you see fit.

Yes, your situation does suck, but it'll pass. Even if it doesn't, you're golden when compared to Third World residents.