Don't you think that judging the police force of an entire nation from just what you see of the actions of the worst thrust into the spotlight by the modern media is generalizing a little.David Woon said:this! THIS! THIS is why i fucking hate american policemen they're too goddamn trigger happy and are so stupid and dumb they do stupid things all the goddamn time THIS HAS FUCKING RUINED MY DAY and now i'm upset i hope someone finally says "right that does it I've had enough with this you two officers are fired and i'm throwing you in prison"
You think the police office would have ended up dead if not for the actions of his partner, then?Buretsu said:I'm arguing that if you pose a threat to the life of a police officer, they're within their rights to remove that threat with potentially lethal force. It just seems that more people would rather see a police officer dead than the crazy person attacking them.AngloDoom said:Buretsu said:Really? You're claiming that a pen can't be used as a fatal weapon?
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No, they generally don't have access to anything sharp that can stab someone.. LIKE A PEN.
Are we really arguing that the guy deserved/should have expected to be shot assuming the police knew what he was carrying was a pen?
Assuming this isn't a horrible mistake on my part, that's quite unsettling.
Tony said:You sure about that? And what the fuck. Seriously? Talking about taking down amputees?hazabaza1 said:I...what?
For fuck's sake, I could take down a double amputee and I'm a scrawny 18 year old. You're telling me a train officer couldn't do this non-lethal?
What the fuck, seriously?
Wrestling alligators is easy, their muscles for opening their jaws are INCREDIBLY weak. If a double amputee got in a fight with a person who retained all their limbs, realistically speaking the intact person would just kick the amputee.
Or, y'know, run away.
Given that the sword in this case was whatever side arm the officer had and further given that the man with the gun remains alive while the man with a pen does not, it seems to me that the pen is not mightier than the gun.Esotera said:To make this thread even more distasteful, I think this is a perfect example of why the pen is mightier than the sword.
OT: It's pretty ridiculous that this happened, but I suppose the 'weapon effect' could plausibly have something to do with it. Still not remotely acceptable.
Why do you care about our opinions on this? is the story particularly close to home for you? It doesn't matter what anyone says in this thread. Victim is shot dead, cop will walk because in America they can and do. There's no point in being outraged about this shit anymore. The USA and her gun policies and gung-ho cops seem intrinsic. It's the same story told for the thousandth time.CrazyCapnMorgan said:Your thoughts, quips, opinions? Or, in DVS BSTRD's case, puns?
I care because of the unique circumstances surrounding this event. That, and the fact that I like to see everyone's view point regarding the issue here and make some discussions about it. Hopefully, positive ones.KingsGambit said:Why do you care about our opinions on this? is the story particularly close to home for you? It doesn't matter what anyone says in this thread. Victim is shot dead, cop will walk because in America they can and do. There's no point in being outraged about this shit anymore. The USA and her gun policies and gung-ho cops seem intrinsic. It's the same story told for the thousandth time.CrazyCapnMorgan said:Your thoughts, quips, opinions? Or, in DVS BSTRD's case, puns?
Huh, if a 9x19mm/.45 ACP handgun counts as military grade weapon, then I agree. I mean, those are what the military uses.Blablahb said:But that's the same. You need military grade weapons in case the police, as enforcers of the evil librul socialist government come for you!
You make no sense. There is no assumption, I just said that in a period of time the amount of homicides committed by licensed concealed carry permit holders is pathetically small. That is factual.Blablahb said:A bit more seriously, I find your assumption that someone with no existing criminal record never escalates violence more than naive. If that doesn't happen, then how come there even are people with violent crime on criminal records? They once committed a first offence too.