Double Amputee Killed by Houston Police Officer

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The top comments on Yahoo news are pure gold. Not to make light of a terrible tragedy, but those tasteless jokes made my night XD
 

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David Woon said:
this! THIS! THIS is why i fucking hate american policemen they're too goddamn trigger happy and are so stupid and dumb they do stupid things all the goddamn time THIS HAS FUCKING RUINED MY DAY and now i'm upset i hope someone finally says "right that does it I've had enough with this you two officers are fired and i'm throwing you in prison"
Don't you think that judging the police force of an entire nation from just what you see of the actions of the worst thrust into the spotlight by the modern media is generalizing a little.
 

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Seems to have been a reasonable response.

Guy brandishing a metal object corners your partner, you fire.

And the guy being "inches to a foot" away from the other officer is more than enough reason, 8 feet is the maximum distance at which you can use lethal force.
 

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Buretsu said:
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Buretsu said:
Really? You're claiming that a pen can't be used as a fatal weapon?

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No, they generally don't have access to anything sharp that can stab someone.. LIKE A PEN.

Are we really arguing that the guy deserved/should have expected to be shot assuming the police knew what he was carrying was a pen?

Assuming this isn't a horrible mistake on my part, that's quite unsettling.
I'm arguing that if you pose a threat to the life of a police officer, they're within their rights to remove that threat with potentially lethal force. It just seems that more people would rather see a police officer dead than the crazy person attacking them.
You think the police office would have ended up dead if not for the actions of his partner, then?

Because I still don't see why the partner, with two arms, couldn't have simply grabbed the man with one arm even without the assistance of the other officer. I understand that not everyone is a master of kali arnis, but I don't think it's asking much for two officers to be able to restrain a wheelchair-bound double-amputee, and if it is considered too much then something is seriously wrong in the training stages of an officer's life.
 

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Tony said:
hazabaza1 said:
I...what?
For fuck's sake, I could take down a double amputee and I'm a scrawny 18 year old. You're telling me a train officer couldn't do this non-lethal?
What the fuck, seriously?
You sure about that? And what the fuck. Seriously? Talking about taking down amputees?

Wrestling alligators is easy, their muscles for opening their jaws are INCREDIBLY weak. If a double amputee got in a fight with a person who retained all their limbs, realistically speaking the intact person would just kick the amputee.

Or, y'know, run away.
 

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Choo choo, it's the hell express, all aboard.

Really though, I can imagine what was running through the guys head, the guy was probably screaming, with a metal object in this hand (pen) waving it around frantically? Taking a closer look could be the difference between getting stabbed by a knife or not, and it could easily be mistaken. He WAS threatening to stab a police officer, there is no ifs and buts, he was threatening to and was getting closer, with a potential weapon.

I say he was in the right.
 

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Esotera said:
To make this thread even more distasteful, I think this is a perfect example of why the pen is mightier than the sword.

OT: It's pretty ridiculous that this happened, but I suppose the 'weapon effect' could plausibly have something to do with it. Still not remotely acceptable.
Given that the sword in this case was whatever side arm the officer had and further given that the man with the gun remains alive while the man with a pen does not, it seems to me that the pen is not mightier than the gun.

Jason Bourne did give fairly compelling evidence that the pen was mightier than the punch dagger which is closer to a sword than a gun is for what that's worth.
 
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CrazyCapnMorgan said:
Your thoughts, quips, opinions? Or, in DVS BSTRD's case, puns?
Why do you care about our opinions on this? is the story particularly close to home for you? It doesn't matter what anyone says in this thread. Victim is shot dead, cop will walk because in America they can and do. There's no point in being outraged about this shit anymore. The USA and her gun policies and gung-ho cops seem intrinsic. It's the same story told for the thousandth time.
 

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KingsGambit said:
CrazyCapnMorgan said:
Your thoughts, quips, opinions? Or, in DVS BSTRD's case, puns?
Why do you care about our opinions on this? is the story particularly close to home for you? It doesn't matter what anyone says in this thread. Victim is shot dead, cop will walk because in America they can and do. There's no point in being outraged about this shit anymore. The USA and her gun policies and gung-ho cops seem intrinsic. It's the same story told for the thousandth time.
I care because of the unique circumstances surrounding this event. That, and the fact that I like to see everyone's view point regarding the issue here and make some discussions about it. Hopefully, positive ones.

And no, it isn't close to where I live. I live in New York.

As far as your indifference goes, if you feel that this is common enough in the US to not warrant attention, then so be it. Some might see it differently, which is the reason I posted this in the first place.

However, since you're from England and since we're talking about how things seem, perhaps you might verify something about our cultural differences - and yes, this is topic related. This might seem dated, as it was said roughly 21 years ago...

 

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Someone needs to explain to the police, if it's a choice between getting stabbed in the leg with a pen and shooting a mentally disturbed double amputee, you get stabbed in the leg with a pen (unless you have reason to believe it's something more lethal than, well, a pen). It's like killing a unicorn. I don't even know any double amputees.

Seriously though, why is it that these things keep happening even with the taser invented? This would be an ideal situation. It's like they're only available for abuse of already unarmed and restrained people, the rest of the time the gun is first preference. Tasers are excellent things when you use them right, and guns are terrible things when you use them wrong, and both of these happen abundantly in the police forces.
 

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Am I a bad person for thinking about the movie Wrongfully Accused, featuring the dangerous one armed, one legged and one eyed man?

"Watch out! He has a leg!" priceless.
 

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Blablahb said:
But that's the same. You need military grade weapons in case the police, as enforcers of the evil librul socialist government come for you!
Huh, if a 9x19mm/.45 ACP handgun counts as military grade weapon, then I agree. I mean, those are what the military uses.

Military grade is a silly term for simple "small-arms". Any civilian firearm is comparable in firepower to military handguns, shotguns and rifles.

Also, I lived through several years of the Socialist Party in power. Those people should be trialed for high treason. Along with the right-wing, because for some reason they are just shitty socialists.

Blablahb said:
A bit more seriously, I find your assumption that someone with no existing criminal record never escalates violence more than naive. If that doesn't happen, then how come there even are people with violent crime on criminal records? They once committed a first offence too.
You make no sense. There is no assumption, I just said that in a period of time the amount of homicides committed by licensed concealed carry permit holders is pathetically small. That is factual.

Also, those homicides include suicide and murders committed inside private property, where you don't even need the license. So yeah, people who are trained and licensed are less likely to commit crimes.

Just look at the number of robberies people in the military and police commit. They are trained and licensed.