Double Standards, anyone?

[artanis_neravar]

Here are some of the complaints men have:

- If I break something, a woman will blame me but I can't blame a woman for breaking something.
- I can't make jokes about hitting a woman but women can joke about hitting me.
- I'm not allowed to stare at women's bodies but women are allowed to stare at me.
- I can't use derogatory language directed towards women but women can.

Here are some complaints women have:

- One out of every five women will be raped, but only one out of 165 men will be.
- I work the same job as a man, but get paid on average twenty-five cents less an hour.
- I have a 300% higher chance of being murdered by my spouse than a man does.
- I am more likely to die of gender-neutral diseases, and a lower percentage of medical funding goes towards my sex-specific diseases despite their prevalence being higher.
- The vast majority of religious organizations will not allow me any semblance of authority or power despite me showing equal skill with a man.


In short, stop fucking whining, you over-privileged brats. Boo fucking hoo. No one cares if you can't stare at tits or that you have to be extra nice to those pesky ladies, lest they period themselves everywhere over you. Until you're afraid of walking home in the dark, I don't care.

I'm afraid to walk home alone in the dark, fucking terrified

 

[Princess Rose]

As I had to say to the last 3 people that felt the need to inform me about something I already know allow me to clarify again, I'M NOT A MORON.

I know why women had cheaper insurance.

My point was that women keep banging on about equal rights. If you want equal rights then you get equal rights in EVERYTHING, not just the parts that suit you.

Yeah, except MY point was that car insurance has NOTHING AT ALL to do with equal rights.

Men's casual clothing is cheaper than women's casual clothing.
Men's formal clothing is more expensive than women's formal clothing.

Some things cost more for women than men, and vice versa. That has absoutely nothing to do with equal rights.

Adding an arbitrary fee to women's car insurance to make it "equal" doesn't make it equal - it puts an unfair penalty on women. You don't see men being charged more for underpants because women's panties are more expensive than briefs.

The double standard comes in from having to pay equal to men and then complaining about it. Thats not wanting equal rights.

You're right - that isn't wanting equal rights - because there is no "Right to Fair Prices" in the Constitution. There is no right to prices AT ALL. Business can charge what they want for a good or service.

Your argument concerning car insurance makes no sense. It has absolutely nothing to do with women's rights (either for or against). What you described with the insurance - that's just price gouging. Women don't get cheaper prices because they're women - they get it because they get into less accidents, and people who get into less accidents PAY LESS FOR CAR INSURANCE. That's how the system works. Making women pay more, just because they're women, is NOT making anything equal. Men who have good driving records will see their rates LOWERED because of good driving (at least if they have a half-way decent insurance company). Penalizing women is NOT equality for men.

 

[Nathan Crumpler]

Here are some of the complaints men have:

- If I break something, a woman will blame me but I can't blame a woman for breaking something.
- I can't make jokes about hitting a woman but women can joke about hitting me.
- I'm not allowed to stare at women's bodies but women are allowed to stare at me.
- I can't use derogatory language directed towards women but women can.

Here are some complaints women have:

- One out of every five women will be raped, but only one out of 165 men will be.
- I work the same job as a man, but get paid on average twenty-five cents less an hour.
- I have a 300% higher chance of being murdered by my spouse than a man does.
- I am more likely to die of gender-neutral diseases, and a lower percentage of medical funding goes towards my sex-specific diseases despite their prevalence being higher.
- The vast majority of religious organizations will not allow me any semblance of authority or power despite me showing equal skill with a man.


In short, stop fucking whining, you over-privileged brats. Boo fucking hoo. No one cares if you can't stare at tits or that you have to be extra nice to those pesky ladies, lest they period themselves everywhere over you. Until you're afraid of walking home in the dark, I don't care.

I don't believe any person said anything about men having it harder than women or that these double standards are a serious problem. We are just a bunch of people having a discussion. I don't have to argue whether all or must of the things you mentioned are true, because they are irrelevant to this conversation.

Also, who said you had to care?

 

[Chelsea O'shea]

All the time. When a women has sex with a bunch of men, she's labeled a slut. But if a man does it, he's labeled as gay.

It's bullshit I tell you.

problem in your logic,all a girl has to do to get laid is open her legs(in most cases) while a man has to suck up to a respectable woman a while to get some(or find the slut with her legs open if he isn't a real man)

i am a woman by the way and i still see this double standard.

as for the topic of this thread,yes it happens alot and the way to stop it is to not let it get pinned on you,the logic idea is your best bet in any case.

 

[peruvianskys]

well, what do you want us to do? spontaenously become women?

You don't have to be ashamed of being a man, it's just obnoxious to hear so many guys complain about double standards when they clearly have it so much better than women. The proper response is just acknowledging it, that's all.

I don't believe any person said anything about men having it harder than women or that these double standards are a serious problem. We are just a bunch of people having a discussion. I don't have to argue whether all or must of the things you mentioned are true, because they are irrelevant to this conversation.

Also, who said you had to care?

Like I said, as a guy it's just annoying to see other guys complain about this stuff. It's a silly and ignorant conversation to have, seeing as the prevailing attitude here clearly is that double standards are a serious issue, which they aren't. So if you want to have a conversation about how annoying it is that women can grab your ass but you can't grab theirs, fine, but I just wanted to say something after seeing all these people who say absurd things like "Women don't really want to be treated equally!" or "Women still want to preserve double standards that favor them."

 

[Nisselue]

Why is it a guy can sleep with a bunch of women he's a stud, but if a woman sleeps with a bunch of guys she's a slut?

Maybe because i am a heterosexual guy who got no interest in women who sleep with a lot of men.
Maybe because i am a heterosexual guy who got no interest in other mens sexual lifes at all.

So since i am a man and i am interested in having a girl as my sexual partner i would like a women who hasn't had a lot of penises inside of her many holes. I just do not like the idea of having sex with my girlfriend knowing in the back of my head that a lot og guys have done awesome stuff to her. That is why i do not want a slut as my girlfriend, i do not have anything against sluts i am happy for them doing what they like, but i do not want a slut as my partner.

When it comes to guys being studs that is fairly simple, i am a guy, i am a heterosexual guy, i like women not men. Therefore i really do not care how many women men have slept with be it 0 or 9999. I never have to worrie about getting a boyfriend and thinking about all those girls or men he has slept with. As with the sluts i do not have anything against studs sleeping with whoever they want, i will just find a women who fits my preferences.

You all can say what you want about me being insecure and that i need to suck it up or be more of a man etc, but i do not give a flying fuck. I will have a girlfriend who has the same sexual morals as i have if i cannot find that then i will just continue masturbating.

Why is it that guys in fantasy films and games get reasonable armor, while all the women get is chainmail bikinis?

Because it is men creating movies and videogames for men? If you had woman creating movies and videogames for women you get stuff like Twilight and Sex and the City. Don't tell me those vampires in Twilight aren't shiny.
Conan the Barbarian from 1982 with Arnold as conan was running around in a loincloth and a sword only. So that's pretty similar to the women in chainmail-bikinis.

 

[ckam]

You can't hit a girl, but she can hit you?

There is one that I really hated: Call someone a *****, you get a warning. Call someone a ******, you get suspended from school.

 

[Exius Xavarus]

The point is that I am not a supremacist, as you have said. It just pisses me off how some women say they thrive to ensure equal rights, and still draw benefits from 'special treatment'.

It should be either, not both.

Women don't desire equality, they desire superiority. They want anything good about being equals with men, while retaining the special treatment they so much deserve, apparently. And then you'll get these girls that just act inferior, but still demand equality. The way I see it, you act inferior, you are inferior. You want to be an equal, act like it. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't believe in superiority or inferiority. I don't see anyone better or worse than another. But that doesn't mean I'll tolerate people trying to act like they're better than me. If women want to be treated as equals, that's exactly how I'll treat them. I don't tolerate double standard bullshit, and I have no business with girls who believe they can pull that on me.

 

[Nathan Crumpler]

well, what do you want us to do? spontaenously become women?

You don't have to be ashamed of being a man, it's just obnoxious to hear so many guys complain about double standards when they clearly have it so much better than women. The proper response is just acknowledging it, that's all.

I don't believe any person said anything about men having it harder than women or that these double standards are a serious problem. We are just a bunch of people having a discussion. I don't have to argue whether all or must of the things you mentioned are true, because they are irrelevant to this conversation.

Also, who said you had to care?

Like I said, as a guy it's just annoying to see other guys complain about this stuff. It's a silly and ignorant conversation to have, seeing as the prevailing attitude here clearly is that double standards are a serious issue, which they aren't. So if you want to have a conversation about how annoying it is that women can grab your ass but you can't grab theirs, fine, but I just wanted to say something after seeing all these people who say absurd things like "Women don't really want to be treated equally!" or "Women still want to preserve double standards that favor them."

Understandable, but you didn't have to read this thread. I'm pretty sure you knew what was being said before you clicked on it. So as far as I'm concerned, you are the douche for barging into this somewhat friendly conversation and telling every one to shut up. Also, how is this line of thinking logical? One person cannot complain because another person has it worse? How ever bad it is for a woman living in America, I'm pretty sure you can find a different group who has it worse. Should they be the only people allowed to talk about their problems? If you want to have a pissing contest over who has it worse, you can start your own thread about it.

 

[Irridium]

All the time. When a women has sex with a bunch of men, she's labeled a slut. But if a man does it, he's labeled as gay.

It's bullshit I tell you.

problem in your logic,all a girl has to do to get laid is open her legs(in most cases) while a man has to suck up to a respectable woman a while to get some(or find the slut with her legs open if he isn't a real man)

i am a woman by the way and i still see this double standard.

as for the topic of this thread,yes it happens alot and the way to stop it is to not let it get pinned on you,the logic idea is your best bet in any case.

Oh nonono, you misunderstand me.

Woman has sex with lots of men = slut

Man has sex with bunch of men = gay

THAT is the bullshit I alluded to earlier.
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I was trying to be funny

 

[SwagLordYoloson]

When a 50 year old man talks to a little boy everyone thinks he is a paedophile but if a 50 year old woman talks to a little boy they think she is either her mom or her grandma and are all cool with it.

When a 50 year old man drives around in a big van past a primary school, everyone thinks he is a paedophile. But if they saw a 50 year old woman driving that same van, they think she would be delivering cakes for a bake sale at the school.

When a 50 year old man etc.

 

[Aprilgold]

All the time. When a women has sex with a bunch of men, she's labeled a slut. But if a man does it, he's labeled as gay.

It's bullshit I tell you.

Actually, as long as she doesn't have a desease, shes not a slut, shes a hooker then.

I don't know, woman getting the child in divorce cases EVEN if their a bad parent.

Here are some of the complaints men have:

- If I break something, a woman will blame me but I can't blame a woman for breaking something.
- I can't make jokes about hitting a woman but women can joke about hitting me.
- I'm not allowed to stare at women's bodies but women are allowed to stare at me.
- I can't use derogatory language directed towards women but women can.

Here are some complaints women have:

- One out of every five women will be raped, but only one out of 165 men will be.
- I work the same job as a man, but get paid on average twenty-five cents less an hour.
- I have a 300% higher chance of being murdered by my spouse than a man does.
- I am more likely to die of gender-neutral diseases, and a lower percentage of medical funding goes towards my sex-specific diseases despite their prevalence being higher.
- The vast majority of religious organizations will not allow me any semblance of authority or power despite me showing equal skill with a man.


In short, stop fucking whining, you over-privileged brats. Boo fucking hoo. No one cares if you can't stare at tits or that you have to be extra nice to those pesky ladies, lest they period themselves everywhere over you. Until you're afraid of walking home in the dark, I don't care.

So, you skip legal cases to where woman get something extra over a man, but then continue to dwadle on small stuff.
Sweetie, I'll just point this out, above is the only thing to add to the Male side, ALONG WITH, BUT ARE NOT CONTAINED TO OTHER LEGAL CASINGS, SUCH AS DOMESTIC DISPUTES, LAWSUITS, AND MANY MORE IN THE WORLD BOOK!
Simple fact, a killer can be a man or woman, and theres a show, go to Tru Tv and check it out, its called Snapped, its ALL about woman murdering their husband, come back with a straight face and tell me thats not something wrong. I'm scared to walk in the dark because PEOPLE HAVE GUNS, I, IF I HAVE MONEY, THEY WILL POINT IT AT ME, REGARDLESS OF GENDER! And on your last one about religions, THEIR BLOODY RELIGIONS, THEIR FUCKING RULES ARE FROM A BEGONE TIME OF SEXISM!

I am suddenly reminded of case to where a woman took a shotgun and blew out the brains of her husband, then got let go because she said the man abused her, I never read to far into it, but from what I understood or took from it, there weren't any signs of him being abusing, of course, sometimes I am wrong. But all the evidence pointed to her taking the shotgun, putting it to his temple then firing. But since he was abusive its OK to kill someone.
Simple fact, were not whining when there ARE double standards in place for woman to be over men, probably more so infact, but their not looked at because a large amount of phyco feminists [sub]*not the ones that are upstanding, actually fighting for equality, but the ones that use their beliefs in feminism to be overall asses.*[/sub] Would be-head anyone saying so.

Yes, equality does demand respect for men too. Yes, there are double standards that negatively impact men too.

But Jesus Christ are you missing the point if you think that the double standards men face are comparable in scope to those faced by women.

We have a few bigger fucking problems than the fact that men are more liable to be called out by women for mistakes (to the extent that this is even true - women just get fucked over in different ways for mistakes).

Quick hand raise, how many woman fought in the original rising of woman power... Lets see, not a lot, now lets look at feminists in general.... A lot, alright, how many guys were alive back then.... Not a lot, how many are sorry for what their ancestors did, EVEN THOUGH they weren't alive back then.... A lot. There you go, we now have a formal understanding of a bridge we must build and then cross to get over it.
Again, I'm a guy, I am so sorry that I would spend time to build a resort specifically for woman for free. But I wasn't alive back then, A LOT of people weren't alive back then, I couldn't have stopped my fellow men from being dimwits, and sure as hell woman today can't go back and add numbers to the woman fighting force, persay. You can't hold a gender to its mistakes when a large percent weren't even babies being formed in their mothers stomachs to fix it.

My point is simple: What woman faced back then was TERRIBLE, but is it that bad now, honestly, can woman today NOT have a career, not become CEOs or do what they wish on their wildest wims? No, they can do ALL that and more, holding something or someone back after the fact and not noticing the changes now in days urks me. Specifically when you sai "What those women FACED." Past tense, FUCKING PAST TENSE! RIGHT THERE IS MY POINT, THEY FACED IT, OVER CAME IT VICTOURISLY, CAN WE PLEASE BUILD A FUCKING BRIDGE, AND GET OVER THIS HOLDING BACK GUYS FOR SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T EVEN SEE BEFORE THEY WERE BORN, THANK YOU!

[sub]*sorry if I offended, but I get a special type of URKED from these threads.*[/sub]

 

[dex-dex]

All the time. When a women has sex with a bunch of men, she's labeled a slut. But if a man does it, he's labeled as gay.

It's bullshit I tell you.

LOLZ! now I am getting weird looks from my mum for giggling while she is watching tv.

 

[dex-dex]

i'd give you an example but my self esteem is nowhere near high enough to interact with a female

Ladies are not scary. unless they look like this:

Spoiler: especially the short one

am I scary?

 

[artanis_neravar]

Actually, as long as she doesn't have a desease, shes not a slut, shes a hooker then.

No if she gets paid she is a hooker, if she doesn't she is a slut

 

[artanis_neravar]

i'd give you an example but my self esteem is nowhere near high enough to interact with a female

Ladies are not scary. unless they look like this:

Spoiler: especially the short one

am I scary?

Do you look like any of the people in that picture? Oh and do you have psychic powers that can make me explode into a cloud of blood?