Double Trailer Sci Fi Special: Star Trek: Picard and Terminator Dark Fate.

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Picard has lots of potential, naturally. Can't discern more than that.
 

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Is it bad that the only Star Trek related production I've ever gotten into is The Orville?
 

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
Is it bad that the only Star Trek related production I've ever gotten into is The Orville?
Yes.

Go watch the Original Series (Preferably the best episodes)

Then the Next Generation (Mostly the vast majority of episodes, but the early season started rather weak, the saying that the show got better when Riker grew a beard was no joke though)

Then Deep Space 9 (Arguably the greatest Star Trek piece of media ever according to some, even I have to give it a full watch sometimes to see if its true, but so far my impression is positive)

And the movies recommended as this: Star Trek The Moition Picture (Treat it as the finale to the Original Series).

Wrath of Khan (The undisputed best Star Trek movie)

The Search for Spock (I actually like this movie despite it being relegated as a bad Trek film)

The Undiscovered Country (The last TOS movie and it was a good one, same writers behind Wrath of Khan)

First Contact (The Second TNG movie becuase the first movie was rather weak)

And bare with me. Nemesis, the worst Star Trek movie ever I actually think is ok-ish send off of the TNG crew.

You can still watch the remaining shows and movies are your own if you want, but I avoid watching them.
 

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Oh boy, a liquid Terminator, what a surprise. I can't wait for this installment of a dead franchise to be slightly beneath mediocre.
 

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Look, I know that Robert Patrick just isn't healthy enough to play a Terminator anymore, but could we at least get someone to understudy for him? No one else has managed to pull off the subdued menace that he could, and every other outing has just felt like self-parody.

Gotta say, though: Linda Hamilton is still badass.
 

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What I want to know is why everyone's so worked up about Romulus, yet no-one remembers poor Remus. Yes, not many people like Nemesis, but still, what, are we only meant to mourn for the romulans?

But that aside, what else can I comment on? Yay for viticulture still being a thing in the late 24th century?

Anyway, as for the Terminator trailer, it actually looks better than I thought, and the T-1000 (if it even is one) looks cool with the black colour scheme it's got, but I'm still on the fence. I mean, I did like Salvation and Genisys, but I have to swallow the entire premise, that this is the second time we've got a 'retcon film,' that Sarah Connor just happened to be there, with weapons that included an RPG (so much for JD being averted), and that we can assume that JD will still happen, only this time John Connor (where is he anyway?) won't be the leader, but Dani. Like, in essence, the film touches on a lot of stuff I've felt Terminator (not so much the films, the wider franchise) has done poorly in the past, but at least makes it look "kewl."

Like, I dunno, at this point I'd have preferred two sequels to Salvation, so you could at least bring the series full circle before doing the "screw it, let's just go back to T2 and work from there."

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Wrath of Khan (The undisputed best Star Trek movie)
First Contact is better. And if you disagree, too bad.

And bare with me. Nemesis, the worst Star Trek movie ever
Cough*Generations*Cough
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Oh boy, a liquid Terminator, what a surprise. I can't wait for this installment of a dead franchise to be slightly beneath mediocre.
Its 2 Terminators. The Liquid one grafting on a Metal Skeleton Robot Terminator
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Oh boy, a liquid Terminator, what a surprise. I can't wait for this installment of a dead franchise to be slightly beneath mediocre.
I will see Dark Fate for Linda Hamilton, but otherwise, there are only 2 Terminator films. The rest are bad fan fics (3 & 5), and okay one off.

Picard will be great, but I am not a big Trek fan.
 

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Hawki said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Wrath of Khan (The undisputed best Star Trek movie)
First Contact is better. And if you disagree, too bad.
Those are both fine movies, but I like The Undiscovered Country just a bit better.

It's a shame there were no DS9 movies.
 

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Hawki said:
And bare with me. Nemesis, the worst Star Trek movie ever
Cough*Generations*Cough
I'm sorry, both of you seem to have forgotten the time Kirk found God, wrestled a three titted cat, and tried to teach Spock row-row-row your boat.
 

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erttheking said:
Hawki said:
And bare with me. Nemesis, the worst Star Trek movie ever
Cough*Generations*Cough
I'm sorry, both of you seem to have forgotten the time Kirk found God, wrestled a three titted cat, and tried to teach Spock row-row-row your boat.
No, I don't remember that at all.

Isn't it weird how the Star Trek films just went from IV to VI with no V?
 

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09philj said:
erttheking said:
Hawki said:
And bare with me. Nemesis, the worst Star Trek movie ever
Cough*Generations*Cough
I'm sorry, both of you seem to have forgotten the time Kirk found God, wrestled a three titted cat, and tried to teach Spock row-row-row your boat.
No, I don't remember that at all.

Isn't it weird how the Star Trek films just went from IV to VI with no V?
Yes, quite strange.
 

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Linda Hamilton looks silly as hell in the new Terminator.

Seriously, remember the movie RED? It's like someone watched that and didn't realize that the "old people as badass action heroes" angle was being played for laughs.
 

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Going to add my voice of dissent to this and declare that DS9 is appalling rubbish for almost all of its run. Some exceptions being when it stops being DS9 and becomes, say, a show about a black guy dealing with racism in early 20th century US.
 

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
Is it bad that the only Star Trek related production I've ever gotten into is The Orville?
Nah. Orville is definitely its only thing. It has very little to do with Star Trek. Probably the closest it is to is Deep Space 9. But not really

I just wish they try funny stuff. They try to be dirty and pretend that's funny
 

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Thaluikhain said:
Going to add my voice of dissent to this and declare that DS9 is appalling rubbish for almost all of its run. Some exceptions being when it stops being DS9 and becomes, say, a show about a black guy dealing with racism in early 20th century US.
That's pretty much how I feel about TNG. Meaningless, meandering, uninterested in characters or developing them. Definitely more self righteous and has a stick up it's own butt
 

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trunkage said:
That's pretty much how I feel about TNG. Meaningless, meandering, uninterested in characters or developing them. Definitely more self righteous and has a stick up it's own butt
I tend to agree with that, but then TNG got it right by not making the show about things it wasn't going to do. No character arcs, just monsters of the week, ethical dilemmas and Picard giving speeches.

DS9 also was pretty meaningless, meandering, uninterested in characters or developing them, but then tried to make things they weren't interested in doing well the basis of the show.

Not having plot or character arcs, not building the show around them is the right move when you're not going to do them well. I get the feeling that DS9 didn't care about those things more than TNG did.