Dr. Who as a woman?
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Okay, I don't really understand this argument. Now feel free to correct me since I actually don't watch Doctor Who(I came here because it sounded like an interesting topic).Sleekit said:
Now these Time Lords, as I understand them, are practically(or actually?) immortal beings that can take any form every time they go through what would kill us mere mortals(you can't really call it dying now can you). Now, unless there is some fixed traits about them that have to stay intact that the show has established(and whatever hasn't been established, the writers can just make them up can they?) , there is no reason he can't be a different gender or race, right?
I chose to quote that one part of your post, not just because I don't want to fill up so much space, but because I don't really see what the conflict is. So what if he was born a boy? If he had to keep something of himself simply because he was born with it, he would, well, never change appearance at all. I don't see what having grown up with a specific gender would do to the Doctor when he changes. Aren't there many transsexuals out there that are doing pretty fine right now?(Also if all we have is seen him, how would you know he's not asexual)
Again, I haven't watched Doctor Who, but I've only made 2 assumptions:
1. There is no set of traits a Time Lord has to keep when they regenerate
2. If there is, gender was probably never included
As for your argument about men and women not being interchangeable in media, there is one big flaw in it and that is that in order for your hypothetical situations to work, these middle-age parents would have to be HORRIBLY SEXIST!
As for the Original Topic, I say what I always say in these types of arguments. No, there is no good reason to change someone to a different gender or race. But there's no good reason NOT to.
Guys we've got proof it would work now. Imagine Clara Orwin as the Doctor. It would be perfect.
As for the problems with gender issues going back in time, that already happens loads of the time because the female companions do stuff, but the show is family centred so they always deal with it by having a guy go "you can't do that! You're a women" and the lady replies "Damn right I am" or something similar. And we've seen plenty of kickass female historical figures. It wouldn't need to get serious, Doctor Who is unreal enough that people are never bothered by the clothes or lack of customs or that a strange man is turning up and telling them everything. The Doctor being a women would just be swept up in her generally being the Doctor and overriding people out of shock and technobabble
As for the problems with gender issues going back in time, that already happens loads of the time because the female companions do stuff, but the show is family centred so they always deal with it by having a guy go "you can't do that! You're a women" and the lady replies "Damn right I am" or something similar. And we've seen plenty of kickass female historical figures. It wouldn't need to get serious, Doctor Who is unreal enough that people are never bothered by the clothes or lack of customs or that a strange man is turning up and telling them everything. The Doctor being a women would just be swept up in her generally being the Doctor and overriding people out of shock and technobabble
What the hell is this? Did your dog or something jump up on the desk and start typing on the computer?The Tall Nerd said:
Start making sense.
I don't imply things, I goddam say them. I did not speak any pseudo intellectual bullshit about the natural state of gender and all that horseshit. There's far too much pseudo intellectual bullshit out there on the internet. Every forum is full of it.
A character who's characteristics consist of being a [insert minority] and reminding everyone, all of the time, that he is a [insert minority] is a terrible character.
A female Dr. could end up like Captain Janeway. Boring and unlikable.
A character who's characteristics consist of being a [insert minority] and reminding everyone, all of the time, that he is a [insert minority] is a terrible character.
A female Dr. could end up like Captain Janeway. Boring and unlikable.
Only so long as they do it because it would make a good story and not because feminism or something like that.
River, anyone?
That said, it would actually be a really interesting element considering male Doctor's established relations with other characters, but then again, any personality change pretty much does that and I don't know how well the inevitable sexual tension would translate. I think it'd be alright, for a season or so.
That said, it would actually be a really interesting element considering male Doctor's established relations with other characters, but then again, any personality change pretty much does that and I don't know how well the inevitable sexual tension would translate. I think it'd be alright, for a season or so.
Starbuck as woman in the reboot of BSG was good character. I'm not sold on the notion that Starbuck being a woman added anything to the show but it certainly didn't take anything away from BSG in my eyes. A good character played by a good actress made for some good TV.
I imagine the same would apply to Dr Who should they do a good job of it. If not then refer to my other posts. No one wants Captain Janeway in a blue box.
I imagine the same would apply to Dr Who should they do a good job of it. If not then refer to my other posts. No one wants Captain Janeway in a blue box.
Well I don't think the Doctor really thinks in genders as he kisses both men and women. He doesn't have problem with either gender flirting with him either. He's like Captain Jack, a 30th century man, without the promiscuity. Also we've seen female Doctors. There's his daughter Jenny, who was cloned from his DNA so she is literally a female version of him without the years of experience and training as a Time Lord. There was also the Doctor Donna, which was a great incarnation of the Doctor, too bad she only had a human brain.
As for the Matt Smith quote of "an old alien and a hot chick traveling in a blue box", if the female Doctor was a hot chick, all they would need is an old alien. So where's the change in the formula? He already works with a Sontaran anyway.
As for the Matt Smith quote of "an old alien and a hot chick traveling in a blue box", if the female Doctor was a hot chick, all they would need is an old alien. So where's the change in the formula? He already works with a Sontaran anyway.
I never suggested that it would ever directly "call out" to queer "sensibilities" (whatever that means). Quite the opposite, in fact.Dangit2019 said:
And a move like this would never, ever be "apolitical." Seriously, changing the gender of the main character of a long-running show would be "apolitical"? What universe do you live in?!
i would watch it, hell the last series has been total shit i still watch. it wont happen though because doctor who is a show aimed at young boys.
A universe where the Doctor has no gender in the first place, his "gender" being decided by whoever plays him.BeanDelphiki said:
I would be opposed to such a move on almost every level, but I would continue watching the show.
It'd just be hard for me to get over the fact that the show-runner decided to abandon all logic and pre-established Time Lord biology in order to cast a woman in the role.
It'd just be hard for me to get over the fact that the show-runner decided to abandon all logic and pre-established Time Lord biology in order to cast a woman in the role.
I would call issue with this comparison.TorqueConverter said:
The new BSG is basically a different show than the old one, so coming back with a new version decades after the original with a character that WAS male in the old show now female in the new one is VERY different than just turning an established character female right in the middle of a show's run.