Dragon Age Origins

[TheDoctor455]

Now if you get the game, and play through it fully at least once, and you STILL think its bad, then you must be fucking stupid.

I dont think he ever said that he thought the game was bad? In fact, from re-reading his post it is easy to tell he thinks quite the opposite. I dont get what you tried to prove in your post, but you seem to just be flaming a guy for no apparent reason...

All right, admittedly, my post was more in response to the impression that his post gave me rather than what it actually said. So... fair enough.

 

[Neodavid62]

I recently watched a few video reviews of this game(and played a little of it at my friends house) and anyone would realise its a big remake of the Dungeon Seige franchise(the PC game anyway) from its party system to its zoom-out tactical view and its "Every party member gets ther own skill bar",its a total Dungeon Seige remake(if you cant tell,I like the dungeon seige games)so im probobly going to pick this up and i would recommend it to any who liked Dungeon Seige(Although i must say,i like the idea of more then a good,bad,Neutral,or NO option in a chat menu even though oblivion totally screwed that whole concept over with its 1-way chats)

Ummm... In case you haven't noticed pretty much every true PC RPG outside of the Elder Scrolls series HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN A TACTICAL OVERHEAD VIEW. Of course what you probably didn't notice was that you don't HAVE to play from that view you fucking idiot. If you like, you can just keep the camera zoomed in right behind whichever character you are controlling. And furthermore, to my memory, Dungeon Siege didn't have much of a story at all. Dragon Age: Origins is ALL ABOUT THE STORY. Just because a game happens to share similar gameplay mechanics to other games doesn't automatically mean that it is a rip-off or a remake (unless its a Nintendo game). And after playing through the game 3 times, I can safely say that the three basic classes are VASTLY different from each other with 4 unlockable specializations for each. And event the basic skills like different spell or weapon skill trees, offer such a vastly different experience that you could literally make a character of the same race with the same origin story, and STILL be able to have an entirely different experience. And that's not even getting into the various points where you get to have AN ACTUAL IMPACT ON THE STORY.
Now if you get the game, and play through it fully at least once, and you STILL think its bad, then you must be fucking stupid.

if you havent noticed(and obviously you havent) it plays EXACTLY like DS2(DS2 has a story too,unless you were to blind to notice)i have beaten DS2 4 times and i know its gameplay when i see it,now i do think that Bioware got lazy at one point(or they didnt want to give the charecter that much control) and they didn't make it so you can easily change classes in the same save game,for example,say in DS you get to lvl 10 in Atk magic and decide you wanna go melee instead,you just change your armor&weaps&skillbar and your off in DA:O you pick a starting class & race and your stuck with it

while trying not be as hostile as some of these cretens. Seriously Dungeon Siege was not even a very orginal game it was a cheap microsoft rip off of diablo while i still enjoyed it, its not even in the same ball park as dragon age. your compareing a picasso to a velvet elvis painting.

ok for 1 DS2 is NOTHING LIKE DIABLO or Diablo2 Diablo had a very different(and Fixed in place) charecter progression system and control setup laso notice the lack of a party system of more then 1 npc(and minions if you play Necro)

Overhead view? As in, different to the Third-Person view?

I've completed this game three times. How am I not aware of this?

I dont know,im not sure if you can zoom farther out in the 360 version

Now if you get the game, and play through it fully at least once, and you STILL think its bad, then you must be fucking stupid.

I dont think he ever said that he thought the game was bad? In fact, from re-reading his post it is easy to tell he thinks quite the opposite. I dont get what you tried to prove in your post, but you seem to just be flaming a guy for no apparent reason...

Hes Right,i never said i didnt like the game in fact i really like it,im simply pointing out that it shares many major gameplay qualities with DS2(THe way a Party works/the combat system/the Tactical View except one of my favorite parts PETS! i loved having my magic-throwing pets that ate junk items for me and in turn got stronger)

DA:O is much MUCH better than dungeon seige... the only similarity is the combat...
Theres reviews of both the XBox and the PC versions on this site and you should have a look at them...

but, i would add that the PC version is FAR better than the Xbox version...

I do agree, DA:O is WAY better then DS2 but DS2 was good aswell

 

[Neodavid62]

also note hat almost ALL my refenences to DS were of DS2!! not the original!

 

[Naheal]

Mechanics are reused in gaming all the time, usually because they're good.

 

[NuclearPenguin]

DUNGEON SIEGE!?!?!?!
You will suffer gods wrath <.<

 

[NuclearPenguin]

I hate DA:O , its basically an MMO RPG that you play alone. Its generic to the bone, its not dark at all and has nothing that has not been done before, except jumping to anyone in your party, which ruins roleplaying. If i wanna play an rpg il play one where im one character that i customize with npc's that aid me and with combat which ain't taken straight out of an mmo.

I dont like you.
its not taken out of an MMO
Its taken out of baldurs gate
Which in theory means that MMOs have taken their system out of baldurs gate
So just shut up.

I was going for the 5000 posts without invoking moderator wrath but this post pisses me off >.<

 

[NuclearPenguin]

I hate DA:O , its basically an MMO RPG that you play alone. Its generic to the bone, its not dark at all and has nothing that has not been done before, except jumping to anyone in your party, which ruins roleplaying. If i wanna play an rpg il play one where im one character that i customize with npc's that aid me and with combat which ain't taken straight out of an mmo.

I dont like you.
its not taken out of an MMO
Its taken out of baldurs gate
Which in theory means that MMOs have taken their system out of baldurs gate
So just shut up.

I was going for the 5000 posts without invoking moderator wrath but this post pisses me off >.<

5000 posts are a long way, and its almost impossible to not invoke the mods cause everyone eventually loses control. Just because you liked DA:O doesn't mean it's law, that's just your subjective opinion on the game. Also you cant say an 11 years old system is used by today's games, that's like saying Half Life 2 and MW 2 took their system from Doom and Quake just cause you shoot things in all of those games and Doom came first. No what you see in DA:O looks to me like WoW.

1. Shoot yourself
2. It is the spiritual sucessor to baldurs gate, no matter how old it is.
Baldurs gate uses the party system. The same combat system. The top-down view. And you can switch party members whenever.
3. Its nothing like WoW! Woopdy-Fucking-Doo you have an auto attack! Who gives a shit?! Thats the only thing I can find simular. Oh, and WoW wasnt the first game with that. Fucking far away. And actually, Half-Life 2 and MW 2 Wouldnt fucking exist without games like Wolfenstein and Doom.

 

[thiosk]

I don't get to play dao until 2010, too much writing to do this year-- but dao is simply not dungeon snooze. That game was simply walking your archetypes through a linear map in a straight line clicking on things to splat them.

 

[high_castle]

As others have said, this game has more in common with Baldur's Gate than anything else. And that's not surprising, considering it's brought to us by the same company and is a self-styled "spiritual successor."

Listen, there are some elements you're bound to see repeated in a fantasy RPG. That doesn't mean that they're all copying each other, it means they're all channeling the original source of our genre (which would be Tolkien) and the later D&D influences. So common elements repeat themselves across many different games. What unites the BioWare titles is their focus on narrative and characters, and with an emphasis on tactics over hack-and-slash. So again, DA:O has more in common with BG than Dungeon Siege, especially in terms of its story and characters, which matter more in the long run than camera angles.

 

[Hiphophippo]

It's for sure more like dungeon siege than baldur's gate.

For sure.

Definately

Really.

100%

 

[Maze1125]

Bioware have been making RPGs since far before Dungeon Siege was made.

Why on Earth do you think they would be more influenced by someone else's game over their own previous games?

 

[Knight Templar]

You clearly have not played the game, maybe do that before jumping to conclusions.
Fox News?

 

[Amnestic]

I hate DA:O , its basically an MMO RPG that you play alone. Its generic to the bone, its not dark at all and has nothing that has not been done before, except jumping to anyone in your party, which ruins roleplaying. If i wanna play an rpg il play one where im one character that i customize with npc's that aid me and with combat which ain't taken straight out of an mmo.

I dont like you.
its not taken out of an MMO
Its taken out of baldurs gate
Which in theory means that MMOs have taken their system out of baldurs gate
So just shut up.

I was going for the 5000 posts without invoking moderator wrath but this post pisses me off >.<

5000 posts are a long way, and its almost impossible to not invoke the mods cause everyone eventually loses control. Just because you liked DA:O doesn't mean it's law, that's just your subjective opinion on the game. Also you cant say an 11 years old system is used by today's games, that's like saying Half Life 2 and MW 2 took their system from Doom and Quake just cause you shoot things in all of those games and Doom came first. No what you see in DA:O looks to me like WoW.

1. Shoot yourself
2. It is the spiritual sucessor to baldurs gate, no matter how old it is.
Baldurs gate uses the party system. The same combat system. The top-down view. And you can switch party members whenever.
3. Its nothing like WoW! Woopdy-Fucking-Doo you have an auto attack! Who gives a shit?! Thats the only thing I can find simular. Oh, and WoW wasnt the first game with that. Fucking far away. And actually, Half-Life 2 and MW 2 Wouldnt fucking exist without games like Wolfenstein and Doom.

Whoah if your mother sees you write such words you might get grounded. Games evolve, Doom and Quake were old games, technology evolved and new games were made on the same concept and genre, new games don't exist just because of earlier games, nor are they "spiritual successors" , but developed over a long period of time creating and improving technology the earlier games were based on. The subject here was DA:O , don't be a fanboy and start a flame war over it. Even though you liked it doesn't mean everyone else did, and it is Generic, it didn't invent elves or dwarves, and its gameplay (killing dragons with auto attack while in a party) is just what mmo's have been doing for the past decade since Everquest and Dark Age of Camelot.

Pretty sure Baldur's Gate came out before Everquest and DAoC. Everquest copied Bioware in that respect, you twit. Shall we start ragging on Halflife 2 because it copied Halflife 1's gameplay as well?

 

[CmdrGoob]

...that was stupid.


No. No, it is not a 'Dungeon Seige(sic) remake'.

 

[Socius]

I recently watched a few video reviews of this game(and played a little of it at my friends house) and anyone would realise its a big remake of the Dungeon Seige franchise(the PC game anyway) from its party system to its zoom-out tactical view and its "Every party member gets ther own skill bar",its a total Dungeon Seige remake(if you cant tell,I like the dungeon seige games)so im probobly going to pick this up and i would recommend it to any who liked Dungeon Seige(Although i must say,i like the idea of more then a good,bad,Neutral,or NO option in a chat menu even though oblivion totally screwed that whole concept over with its 1-way chats)

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Sense, you make none.
Dragon Age: Origins is not a Dungeon Seige Remake.
Have you yet to realise that fantasy games lack fantasy?
Much of the gameplay is the same in this game as in KOTOR and Mass effect
because of the developer, and that is it. no reamake!
just a great game! I love it allready.
and just for the Record Oblivion Kicked arse!

 

[timmytom1]

For comparing a bioware game to that of another developer, a million nerds will angrily swarm your thread ,you`ll see

as for the game itself , it`s really quite good beyond the fact that dragons are cheating bastards