Drawn by pain

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Piecewise

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Drawn by pain is?difficult to really review fairly. On one hand, the idea is an interesting one. The blending of live action and animation isn?t rare but making that animation look hand drawn and cartoonish is actually a very unique concept. The story line, a vigilante heroine attempting to save others from the pain she endured as a child is both different enough to be intriguing and archetypal enough to be easily understood, its emotions easy to get behind and become one with.

Or it would be in theory.

The problem is not its ideas but its execution.

The Characters:

The main character Emily starts the series as a little girl with a violently abusive father but quickly becomes a young woman who?s desire is to rid the world of people like her father. It?s a good character in theory but the problem is..well?she?s completely unlikable. Her actions are at best dishonest and conciliatory and at worse psychotic and hypocritical. While her self proclaimed mission is to rid the world of abusive men, she tends to instigate the actions of those who she sees as abusive. Ie, when you dress like a hooker, bait men along and then insult and ridicule them, how are you any better then what you?re trying to get rid of?

Beyond this is her seeing all men as violent and abusive while all women are the victims. Her attitude is one of the major reasons I myself was unable to take her seriously. She is seen in the first episode reacting with obscene amounts of anger at a friendly question. For her any sort of flirting or even just friendly action is seen as a personal attack.

While yes her character is supposed to be suffering from mental problems, they could have at least still made her have a somewhat likeable personality, rather then just a pointlessly angry, violent and hypocritical vigilante without a point.


Acting
A major failing here. I really can?t say much good about it. All the acting comes off very much like a high school visual arts class video, where students unenergetically deliver lines in a uninspired monotone. The series also seems to have a penchant for quick and slightly eschewed angles, cutting back and forth and attempting to convey motion and feeling when really all it does is hammer in that nothing is really happening.

Its almost laughable when the characters do decide to show emotion because its always over the top and even more unbelievable. Emily?s face never seems to move from the dead frown she wears, her attitude never seems to improve and she never goes through the realistic revelations that anyone of normal intelligence would go through years before the events of the series. Reactions, motivations, and feelings are shallow and unbelievable.

Her madness:
Speaking as one who not only has studied mental illness but has gone through it, hers is a dramatically bad and clichéd portrayal, with voices in her head, hallucinations and dilutions that are completely unrealistic, blending both real conditions and falsehoods held by the general public. While the idea of her current self getting revenge for her childhood self seems to work, it quickly loses steam and motivation as her dilutions seem to stem from at times random internal sources rather then the psychoanalyzible sources they should stem from.

Character design.
Its assumed that the jerky and unevenness of the lines in the animation is a desired effect, seeming to be hundreds of sketches all merging into one fractured movement. However, the animations tend to be overused or repeated. There are other errors, like the sword being at the wrong angle when shown being swung (ie swinging the flat of the sword at someone) and obviously out of synch movements and actions of the live action and the animated objects and characters.

The characters themselves are uninspired to say the least. The lack of detail makes it hard to really set yourself apart but they could have tried. The main animated character, Emily?s alter ego/powers is a combination of kill bill and Guts from ?Berserker?, an overtly masculine female warrior with a Cloud Strife hairdo. Oddly Emily?s character of a pointlessly angry and murderous ***** seems to fit perfectly in massively muscular persona of this doodled fem fatal.

The other character, The male, is to be honest, a gimp. He wears a blindfold, nipple rings and punches through peoples heads. I?m sure there?s something utterly Freudian here but the way its portrayed just makes it seem silly.



In summery:
A interesting idea that got lost within bad portrayals of mental illness, laughable acting and feme-Nazism
 

Piecewise

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thats your prerogative, just stating what I think.

*shrug* I'm used to higher quality stuff though and its a little harsh to judge them based on real film standards

any reason why you disagree though?
 

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Personally, I am a stickler for pacing. Sometimes, feature films can get away with slower or inconsistent pace because I'm at their mercy; I'm in the theatre and I won't leave until the movie is done, giving the movie a chance to eventually redeem itself.

With net videos, however, I can turn it off whenever I like and go on to other things that amuse me more, so it's harder for them to keep my interest going.

And so, I could only make it about halfway through one of the episodes of Drawn By Pain before I turned it off. What it has going for it is reasonably good production values, straddling the border between amateur and professional. The animation effects are also visually appealing, and I can respect it on the level that it's a very interesting effect that's probably a lot of work to do.

But the acting and the pacing is where it loses me. The acting is distractingly bad, which is half a deal breaker right there, but it was the pace that caused me to give up. The scene in question revolves around a man hitting on the woman as she walked by, eventually propositioning her for sex. She eventually shoots him down, and he eventually pulls a knife. The woman then summons her powers of animation and eventually takes out the would-be rapist.

Notice how many times I said "eventually" in the last couple of sentences. Then, in the recap of events, please inform me of any points in which you didn't see the next part coming a mile away. The scene plays out exactly how we figured it would within the first five seconds, and took something like 5 minutes or more(felt longer) to unfold.

The challenge of net-based videos is that it can't let up for a second; it has to be consistently strong, or at least start strong enough that we forgive it for a bit of lag later on, but generally, it has to keep pushing through and making sure it doesn't drop our interest. Now that I watched half an episode without seeing overly much that I particularly liked, what's bringing me back to watch more? The literal answer to that is, of course, "nothing," because I haven't gone back to watch any more since.

EDIT: Also, reading this post, I discovered the backstory of the main character, and all I'm going to say about that is that they couldn't possibly have made a more generic, bland and boring character if they were given 1000 years to think about it.
 

Piecewise

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Indeed and story is a big thing for me. I mean you can over look alot as long as the story is interesting and well done but its not, its batman with feminist propaganda mixed in.
 

PurpleRain

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Hmm, I've never watched it yet, and by judging by everyone's comments it doesn't sound to great.
 

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I must admit, I tried to watch the first episode of Drawn By Pain and found it very underwhelming, not quite as terrible as the likes of Videogame Theatre, but theres much better stuff on the escapist I can spend my time watching...
 

AntiAntagonist

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I agree with most of the OP and have an addendum: it needs more fast cuts, specifically every action scene.

Every action scene felt incredibly slow, which I'm betting is a mixture of wanting every frame of live video to have an animated layer and to have slo-mo on flourishes. It becomes annoying to the point that I'd prefer a fast forward button for these scenes. If the framerate were adjusted and the fights paced so that movements took less time these scenes would be quickly punched up.

I don't know why but the abusive father's facial expressions make me laugh on occasion. Speaking of which, if the flashbacks had more detail they'd be a lot more interesting. This can be done pretty easily just by adding trash (yes; crumpled newspapers, and the like). I realize that most of these sets have to be on the cheap and are probably on loan (therefore have to be tidy when done), but they look utterly vacant. I don't know many people that have zero furniture (though I buck the trend sometimes), however when they don't they still collect stuff. Magazines, trash, food, piles of firewood and plates are good set pieces that are easy to cleanup and reusable. The added bonus is that if you want to still have the room feel vacant (as with the living room of the old homestead) it will, except it now can also look disorganized and decrepit.

In a separate episode a scene was shot in a parking lot with about 15 extras whose only purpose was to highlight the heroine going mad. This scene would have been more effective in an alley or indoors. Since the editing is slow eyes tend to wander. Behind the extras is a huge amount of space. I shouldn't be thinking about how empty the scene is during the first viewing or trying to figure out why there's 20 people who all happened to be in the same place, at the same time in a back parking lot.

One last option that might help is to use more framing and camera techniques to enhance the themes. If the episode is about her disparaging the importance of other peoples' existences why not have the camera up a few feet higher. If she's feeling trapped show have metal bars between her and the camera, or striped shadows across her.
 

Piecewise

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yeah I mean, the actual work to put in the animated characters must be amazing, so thats commendable but in all honesty the show it self is just...boring. The story takes so long to go anywhere, the fight scenes are repetitive and the acting is silly.

its just..not a good show

it makes me wonder how its webby award winning
 

Sylocat

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I don't get why you people are all getting up in arms over a fucking webseries. Sanity check, it's a no-budget web-based TV show, why must everyone who doesn't like it act like it's such a monumentally important thing?
 

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I personally find it way too melodramatic. I've tried watching episodes, but I can't get past the intro before I just can't stand it anymore. it is an interesting idea though.
 

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Sylocat said:
I don't get why you people are all getting up in arms over a fucking webseries. Sanity check, it's a no-budget web-based TV show, why must everyone who doesn't like it act like it's such a monumentally important thing?
It's the internet. Porn can only keep us entertained for so long.
 

Piecewise

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Sylocat said:
I don't get why you people are all getting up in arms over a fucking webseries. Sanity check, it's a no-budget web-based TV show, why must everyone who doesn't like it act like it's such a monumentally important thing?
We're not up in arms, we're stating an opinion.

I suppose stating that I dislike Italian food is declaring war on Italy?

but look at shit like gamer tonight or half the good running series on newgrounds, great stuff
with no budget.

we're not ragging on the effects, which are actually quite good, or anything else that could be effected by either budget or medium of conveyance, we're ragging on the fact that its melodramatic feminist propaganda thinly veiled behind anime characters and lame acting

also apperently DRAWN BY PAIN = SERIOUS BUSINESS

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PurpleRain said:
Hmm, I've never watched it yet, and by judging by everyone's comments it doesn't sound to great.
Watch it, dammit. If the first episode doesn't make your draw descend, then something other than human blood animates you.
 

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Copter400 said:
PurpleRain said:
Hmm, I've never watched it yet, and by judging by everyone's comments it doesn't sound to great.
Watch it, dammit. If the first episode doesn't make your draw descend, then something other than human blood animates you.
assuming you meant JAW not DRAW

and considering a majority of people here seem to agree its melodramatic and badly written, I assume you mean jaw dropping graphic, which, yeah sorta are,though they get a little old after you see them repeated
 

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Piecewise said:
Copter400 said:
PurpleRain said:
Hmm, I've never watched it yet, and by judging by everyone's comments it doesn't sound to great.
Watch it, dammit. If the first episode doesn't make your draw descend, then something other than human blood animates you.
assuming you meant JAW not DRAW
Oh, bloody hell.
 

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No matter what, just to be fair, I'd recommend trying to watch it yourself, regardless what others say. Who knows, maybe you do appreciate something about it that others don't, then you can come back here and give a different point of view. I, however, do agree with what appears to be the majority opinion; I see a lot of potential, but a great need to improve the execution.
 

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Copter400 said:
Piecewise said:
Copter400 said:
PurpleRain said:
Hmm, I've never watched it yet, and by judging by everyone's comments it doesn't sound to great.
Watch it, dammit. If the first episode doesn't make your draw descend, then something other than human blood animates you.
assuming you meant JAW not DRAW
Oh, bloody hell.
Nar keep it that way, fiting don't you think?