Driver kills boy, sues family for 1 million dollars

[TheMigrantSoldier]

Having read over the thread, my context senses were correct. She's counter suing the family because they're suing her, even after being cleared of all charges.

Another victory for the non reactionary amongst us.

Context Cabbage hoooo!

I think I'm going to rage at the article's provocative title now. Then cool off in a fridge.

CAPTCHA: BRR. I'm cold.

Fitting.

 

[x EvilErmine x]

Am I reading this right? First she murders a kid and then she sues the family?
Seriously, if this works, the judge and jury deserve to be nailed to a cross and left to die and rot, somewhere along the side of a busy road for everyone to see.
The driver deserves it already.

No you are not reading it right.

Summery, woman hits and kills teenager who was cycling with friends at 1:30 am in the morning (without appropriate hi-vis safety clothing or lights) road conditions were not optimal, police find no evidence that the driver is at fault after accident investigators simulate the crash and don't press charges. Victims family sues anyway and woman counter sues to get them to drop the case.

Not so sensationalist where you just give the facts is it?

 

[Blow_Pop]

People who say they couldn't avoid the accident just aren't good drives. There is always something you could of done to prevent the accident. The only victim in this is that kid and his family, stop blaming them.

I disagree with your statement here. I've been in accidents that weren't avoidable except to have not been driving at the time. Ok it was one accident. But there was nothing I could have done to prevent it. And I luckily avoided an accident when I hit a wet spot on the interstate and spun across 3 lanes of traffic. Again, the only thing I could have done would have been not driving that day. Both instances I HAD to be driving to where I was going. The first was me going into work. The second was picking my mum up for her doctor's appointment since she doesn't have a car.



OP: Honestly, even though the kids weren't doing what they were suppose to do, she should have been watching. In California, she would be convicted of vehicular manslaughter. Then again, our state isn't one to talk much for stupid lawsuits since technically(and I say technically because this HAS happened) if you break into someone's house and break your ankle or hurt yourself in some way, you can sue (and win) the people whose house you broke into. Personally I think it's a matter of both parties were at fault. The kids for being dumbasses and the driver for being a dumbass.

 

[omega 616]

BITCHES BE CRAZY! I'm not saying women are crazy but bitches be losin' dey mind! What kind of fuck up do you have to be to sue the family of somebody you just murdered!?

Serial killers must be owed thousands! Can you just imagine the tv advert? "have you ever slain somebody? Did you stage "accident" that killed someone? Shoot up a school or even poison a neighbors pet? Well, you could be in for a major win fall! Here at Dewey, Cheatem and Howe we could make you rich!"

 

[Lazy Kitty]

Am I reading this right? First she murders a kid and then she sues the family?
Seriously, if this works, the judge and jury deserve to be nailed to a cross and left to die and rot, somewhere along the side of a busy road for everyone to see.
The driver deserves it already.

No you are not reading it right.

Summery, woman hits and kills teenager who was cycling with friends at 1:30 am in the morning (without appropriate hi-vis safety clothing or lights) road conditions were not optimal, police find no evidence that the driver is at fault after accident investigators simulate the crash and don't press charges. Victims family sues anyway and woman counter sues to get them to drop the case.

Not so sensationalist where you just give the facts is it?

But she still killed the kid and had the audacity to sue the family.
The circumstances are irrelevant. If the condition of the road was bad, she should have driven slower. Slow enough to see kids not wearing high visibility clothing or lights.

 

[Lazy Kitty]

Am I reading this right? First she murders a kid and then she sues the family?
Seriously, if this works, the judge and jury deserve to be nailed to a cross and left to die and rot, somewhere along the side of a busy road for everyone to see.
The driver deserves it already.

She didn't murder anyone.

I swear, do people even read these threads?

She killed the kid with her SUV. What's the difference?

 

[Muspelheim]

In brief; A tragic accident, being spun into an unpleasant court war where everyone lose all the same.

It sounds outrageous once boiled down to a headline, which is why they ran it. If something sounds a little bit too clear cut, then it might be worth taking a second look.

Evidently, the outrage bait works.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

If the kid wasn't wearing the proper reflective clothing and lighting on the bike, she has a case.

She's a colossal piece of shit for doing it, but a case is a case.

For the love of fuck, how can we live in a world where people can get away with this stuff? If you hit a kid and kill them, it's kinda YOUR fault isn't it. In fact, with the lawsuit she's basically confessing to hitting the kid...why are we even entertaining her? She's guilty of third degree murder! Case closed! Sentence her! Don't let her sue people!

The parents actually say that their children were cycling on a wet, dark country road at 1.30am without any reflective gear apart from some reflectors on the actual bikes, they admit that was a mistake. They don't actually argue with the claim that the boys weren't cycling safely.

Murder doesn't come into it.
It's tragic but there's nothing to suggest that it was intentional.

It's interesting that you're saying part of the blame could fall upon the dead teenager for cycling that late. I don't know if you drive but one of the first things you're taught is to always watch out for pedestrians, yes it's annoying to have some punks J-walk across the street but it's your responsibility as the operator of a large heavy and fast moving piece of metal to make sure you don't hit them. When you're speeding at night and you hit someone you have no one to blame but yourself. If she had been paying attention and driving appropriately for the time and weather this wouldn't of happened.

I understand that it would be traumatic to accidentally kill someone.

Not for nothing, but I've had a couple close calls almost hitting peds walking/cycling along the highway late at night. Most of the time you can't see them until they're right up on you.

And I do have the moral high ground, I use to ride my bike around late at night. Had adequate lights on the bike, wore a stupid reflective Re-Re vest. Not that it means it was all a walk in the park, I've be harrassed by jerks coming out from the bars and even had firecrackers tossed at me.

 

[Colour Scientist]

She killed the kid with her SUV. What's the difference?

There's a pretty big difference actually.

But she still killed the kid and had the audacity to sue the family.

You should really read the thread properly.

The circumstances are irrelevant.

Seriously?

 

[Wasted]

For the love of fuck, how can we live in a world where people can get away with this stuff? If you hit a kid and kill them, it's kinda YOUR fault isn't it. In fact, with the lawsuit she's basically confessing to hitting the kid...why are we even entertaining her? She's guilty of manslaughter! Case closed! Sentence her! Don't let her sue people!

Consider what happened to me a few years go. On a quiet street but within the speed limit of around 30mph or so. As I near an ally crossing 2 boys zip passed on bikes towards the street causing me to violently swerve into the bank in an effort to avoid them. The event messed up my tire and if there was a car parked next to the ally way, causing me not to be able to see them as they zoomed into the street, I would have most likely hit one or both of them. The best case scenario is getting a manslaughter charge and a lifetime of guilt.

I do not know this case but feel that a situation like this could be happening. I cannot condone her suing the family of the child but I can believe her being distraught being legitimate. The death of the child could have really not been her fault, regardless or not if the law says she's guilty of said crime.

 

[tangoprime]

Am I reading this right? First she murders a kid and then she sues the family?
Seriously, if this works, the judge and jury deserve to be nailed to a cross and left to die and rot, somewhere along the side of a busy road for everyone to see.
The driver deserves it already.

She didn't murder anyone.

I swear, do people even read these threads?

She killed the kid with her SUV. What's the difference?

If a squirrel darts out from the side of the road a few feet in front of you and you hit it with your car because it's unavoidable, should you be criminally charged with cruelty to animals? The police ruled that this wasn't murder, or even manslaughter. It was an accident that was found by the police to be unavoidable. The cyclists put themselves in danger by disregarding the law, and tragedy happened.

But she still killed the kid and had the audacity to sue the family.

No, she is COUNTER suing, likely on her attorney's advice, so that the families drop their suit against her. No audacity involved. Accidents happen, people are killed. In this case, the authorities found that the cyclists were at fault for their disregard of safety laws, and car driver was not.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Just when I think humanity can't sink any lower, someone pulls out a backhoe.

 

[ngl42398]

I live in the USA. I fucking hate my country. It's run by filthy greedy liars. It's things like this that fill me to the brim with hatred and spite for humanity.

This is a fucking joke. I don't even care if it's a counter-suit. I'd rather see the driver in jail.

How about we kill one of her kids and then call it even?

{EDIT}
Well I fucked up, guess it was in Canada. Still doesn't make it any better. Nor does it make me hate my country any less.

 

[Compatriot Block]

I live in the USA. I fucking hate my country. It's run by filthy greedy liars. It's things like this that fill me to the brim with hatred and spite for humanity.

This is a fucking joke. I don't even care if it's a counter-suit. I'd rather see the driver in jail.

How about we kill one of her kids and then call it even?

Well, it happened in Canada. Does that make you feel better at least?

 

[Eclipse Dragon]

I live in the USA. I fucking hate my country. It's run by filthy greedy liars. It's things like this that fill me to the brim with hatred and spite for humanity.

This is a fucking joke. I don't even care if it's a counter-suit. I'd rather see the driver in jail.

How about we kill one of her kids and then call it even?

This happened in Canada. I mean you're free and all to hate your country (it's also my country and I'm not very happy with it either), but let's not steal credit.

 

[tangoprime]

I live in the USA. I fucking hate my country. It's run by filthy greedy liars. It's things like this that fill me to the brim with hatred and spite for humanity.
This is a fucking joke. I don't even care if it's a counter-suit. I'd rather see the driver in jail.
How about we kill one of her kids and then call it even?

God I wish they still made people pass some kind of competency test in order to vote. You "fucking hate" your country and this is somehow related to something that happened in Canada? So... were you not aware that Toronto, and by extension Ontario IS NOT IN THE UNITED STATES, or did you just not even read the articles/comments up to this point?

...and proposing to kill one of her children for something that was clearly an accident that the authorities deemed outside of her control? Wow. Just wow.

What do I hate about the United States? That the ignorant get to vote, and have an affect on the rest of us.

 

[Barbas]

I've seen this one doing the rounds, the driver was cleared of all wrong doing by the police, those dumbass kids were riding three abreast on a main road in the middle of the night with dark clothing and only the crappy built on reflectors you get on bikes.

But despite their now deceased children's stupidity and the police outright stating she did nothing wrong the family are now suing the driver. The driver is counter suing in the hopes they drop the case. I know this is perfect bait for the crowd that like to rip their dicks off in rage fuelled hate masturbation but could you at least do your research before calling for an innocent woman's head?

Oh who am I kidding? Of course you wont.

I knew the story sounded batshit. This is why I abhor peddlers like Fox. I will look deeper into it, thank you for pointing that out. Where did you read of it? This is all I could dig up so far:

Simon was not charged over the accident but a police reports says she was traveling 55 mph in a 50-mph zone.
She told police she did not see the teenagers or any reflectors on their bicycles.
Brandon's family is also suing Simon over the accident, alleging she was speeding and may have been intoxicated and talking on her phone.
Both parties' claims have not been tested in court.

Source: http://nypost.com/2014/04/27/driver-sues-parents-of-boy-she-killed/

 

[andago]

If, however, you're driving along a highway, someone jumps off a bridge into your path and you hit them, is it 100% your fault? ...no. No, it is not. It's not even 10% your fault.

Uhh.. yes it is? If you don't even react then you weren't paying due care and attention to begin with. Because the only way they're going to be able to jump into the path of your car is if you're either a) gridlocked in which case, yeah, you aren't at fault in the same way you aren't if someone headbutts your parked car or b) not paying attention to the guy STANDING ON A BRIDGE LIKE HE'S GOING TO JUMP INTO TRAFFIC

It's not 100% your fault but it's more than 10. Just about every traffic accident I can imagine the lowest you can get it is 40-50% the driver's fault.

Do you also blame train drivers when people commit suicide by throwing themselves onto the rails?

What if someone throws themselves out from behind a tree 3 feet in front of you and you hit them? What if another car or cyclist swerves onto your side of the road accidentally and causes a head on collision? What if falling masonry hits your windscreen and causes you to crash into a parked car? What if someone reverse out of there drive without looking and t-bones you?

It's ridiculous to suggest that in every single case that you are involved in an accident in your car, you will be responsible.