drugs are bad mkay.

[Zykon TheLich]

See? They fear because they know it's wrong. If it wasn't wrong then there would be nothing to worry about. Case Closed.

They fear prosecution because they know they will be punished.

 

[Inverse Skies]

They fear prosecution because they know they will be punished.

That's right because it's wrong to use drugs.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

That's right because it's wrong to use drugs.

According to you. As far as they see it it is not, and that is where the guilt on their part, or lack of, comes from.

 

[iain62a]

In a truly free society people should be allowed to pump whatever shit they want to into themselves. I'm staying the fuck away from drugs, but it's our bodies - we can do whatever the hell we want to them.

Drugs are stupid, and I wouldn't take them if I was paid for it - but if somebody wants to be a fucking moron, let them.

 

[Inverse Skies]

According to you. As far as they see it it is not, and that is where the guilt on their part, or lack of, comes from.

Not a dick, I'm just stubborn as all hell. It's a character flaw.

 

[Quantana]

i can't say anything but i totaly agree

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Not a dick, I'm just stubborn as all hell. It's a character flaw.

Saw my first version did you?

 

[Inverse Skies]

Saw my first version did you?

Lol, yes I did! Now I'm just curious as to why you changed it.

Anyway, my whole point revolves around the simple fact this it what society has deemed to be bad, henceforth they shall be bad in my mind. Studying medicine at uni, I wish to treat and see as little drug affected individuals as possible but obviously I'm going to get a few - especially when I'm an intern working the late shift at emergency. The effects of drugs are nasty and debilitating, and the idea of legalising them negates the concept of families suffering when the person they love becomes addicted or harmed by drug abuse, be it legal or otherwise.

Drugs have been deemed illegal because of the damage they cause and also historical precedents, and I'm not saying the current system of completely banning them is correct, but its better than making them socially acceptable and distributing them. The logistics of such an overall would be frightening at best, and I still think it would produce many addictions and damage even if were in a legalised setting. So lets sit on our high horses, say 'drugs are bad' and feel good about ourselves for never using them. That's what I intend to do and I'm going to be outrageously happy in doing so.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Saw my first version did you?

Lol, yes I did! Now I'm just curious as to why you changed it.

*SNIP*

Because you seemed to be deliberately missing the point, that not everyone considers drug use to be wrong and therefore their reasons are not guilt but fear of whatever sentence might be meted out to them by the law*. In the name of civility I decided to give explaining myself properly one last go before dealing out the 'you're being a dick' card.

As far as the rest of it goes I wasn't commenting.

*or in the case of people who don't use illegal drugs the belief that people should not be prosecuted for something they have done to their own bodies.

 

[Inverse Skies]

Because you seemed to be deliberately missing the point, that not everyone considers drug use to be wrong and therefore their reasons are not guilt but fear of whatever sentence might be meted out to them by the law*. In the name of civility I decided to give explaining myself properly one last go before dealing out the 'you're being a dick' card.

As far as the rest of it goes I wasn't commenting.

*or in the case of people who don't use illegal drugs the belief that people should not be prosecuted for something they have done to their own bodies.

Then the debate shall end here, with both sides feeling good for showing the other how they were wrong. Well that's what going to do at least, that and continue to play Kingdom Hearts. My party won't level up by itself you know!

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Then the debate shall end here, with both sides feeling good for showing the other how they were wrong. Well that's what going to do at least, that and continue to play Kingdom Hearts. My party won't level up by itself you know!

Lol, probably for the best! Thanks anyway, its been interesting. Although I inherently disagree with your opinion I can understand that as someone who works in hospitals you probably see the most unpleasant side on a regular basis. Plus I don't want a flame war!

Kingdom hearts eh? It's like Disney on Acid! (It really isn't, sorry couldn't resist)

 

[Inverse Skies]

Lol, probably for the best! Thanks anyway, its been interesting. Although I inherently disagree with your opinion I can understand that as someone who works in hospitals you probably see the most unpleasant side on a regular basis. Plus I don't want a flame war!

Kingdom hearts eh? It's like Disney on Acid! (It really isn't, sorry couldn't resist)

Lol, I prefer to think of it as the bastard child of the incongrous meeting of Sqaure-Enix and Disney... which is still great fun to play!

 

[edinflames]

My Fav cop may have or is going to post his story about someone freaking out and trowing his baby from a 3rd story window. Thanks to weed... I think it was weed, let him clarify.

Wow. To blame that entirely on weed is irresponsible and demonstrates how little that cop understands weed. That didn't happen 'cos of smoked weed, that happened because the man was a total lunatic who happened to smoke weed. Drunk people do some pretty f*cked up shit too.

You're right. It doesn't make them losers.

It makes them either apathetic of their health, or ignorant.

Experience has shown me that is not always the case. Regarding health I think you have it the wrong way aroung, generally people who are apathetic towards their health are more likely to have a higher drug intake, from what I've seen indulging in a responsible use of marijuana does not lead automatically to apathy towards one's physical condition.

I'm not saying marijuana is 'good for you' physiologically or mentally but compared to alcohol and tobacco its not that bad either. If you prepare the weed in food then the negative health consequences associated with smoking are lowered or removed.

On your second point(or stereotype):

Ignorant...yes that must be true, because all the many people I know well who've finished University (reading all those books) smoking weed all the way through and gone on to very decent jobs (one is an army doctor, another still in med school, another two studying to be criminal lawyers) are all ignorant people.

Can you feel the power of my sarcasm?

At this point I think its worth pointing to all those pro-marijuana campaigners in California and Canada that include successful businessmen, doctors and lawyers in their ranks and surmise that they are clearly not ignorant people. They certainly know their subject very well and do what they do with full knowledge of the consequences.

Regarding the 'ignorant and apathetic' stereotype i'd say 'apathetic' is applicable, but not about everything, while 'ignorant' can be easily dismissed.

 

[FallenRainbows]

Wow. To blame that entirely on weed is irresponsible and demonstrates how little that cop understands weed. That didn't happen 'cos of smoked weed, that happened because the man was a total lunatic who happened to smoke weed. Drunk people do some pretty f*cked up shit too.

Let him expalin aparantly it is possible to freak-out from weed as it can affect some in that way. This is not from me so dont yell at me. Also I kinda do agree with you that alchohol is just as bad. But ban Smoking Murder and suicide and GBH to an extent, I'm just saying what I have been told.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Whats this thread about? are we meant to discuss if drugs are bad or something? this is fail!

He either pressed enter before he should have by mistake, or he's a troll.

How many times is the latter ever true?

9 times out of 10 usually.

That's news to me.

My Fav cop may have or is going to post his story about someone freaking out and trowing his baby from a 3rd story window. Thanks to weed... I think it was weed, let him clarify.

I'm guessing this is already one unstable ************.

I've encountered a lot of trolls.

 

[HazukiHawkins]

Unfortunately, for such an off-topic discussion as this, the parameters of endeavor must be set by the party in the first part (and naturally judged as helpful and/or situationally useful), so as to enable the utilization of proper response and avoid overtaxation of the facilities of those willing and otherwise able to respond. As the Japanese say, "Watashi ga saru ni zubon wo nusumareta," and with these words of wisdom in mind, I'd recommend the creation of a set of guidelines, or "statement" if you will, that will elucidate the expectations set forth by the initial expression (or lack thereof) of this particular caucus on the subject of biological remedies intended for the treatment of boredom and indeed all of life. In doing so, the facilitation of further congress will surely lead all involved to attain a greater degree of enlightenment, and thus establish the basis for a new arrangement of world conclave that will surely benefit from the intelligent conversation the aforementioned masses can bring to the metaphorical table of human interaction and convention.

The president has been kidnapped by weasels. Are you a savvy enough dude to save him?

On another note, did you notice a name or number tag on the monkey that stole your pants?
*Dances ondo*

 

[HazukiHawkins]

If you think you can fly start from the ground. If you don't get that concept thank you drugs for removing you from the gene pool.

That's why we have the Darwin awards. ^_^

 

[NeutralDrow]

Unfortunately, for such an off-topic discussion as this, the parameters of endeavor must be set by the party in the first part (and naturally judged as helpful and/or situationally useful), so as to enable the utilization of proper response and avoid overtaxation of the facilities of those willing and otherwise able to respond. As the Japanese say, "Watashi ga saru ni zubon wo nusumareta," and with these words of wisdom in mind, I'd recommend the creation of a set of guidelines, or "statement" if you will, that will elucidate the expectations set forth by the initial expression (or lack thereof) of this particular caucus on the subject of biological remedies intended for the treatment of boredom and indeed all of life. In doing so, the facilitation of further congress will surely lead all involved to attain a greater degree of enlightenment, and thus establish the basis for a new arrangement of world conclave that will surely benefit from the intelligent conversation the aforementioned masses can bring to the metaphorical table of human interaction and convention.

The president has been kidnapped by weasels. Are you a savvy enough dude to save him?

On another note, did you notice a name or number tag on the monkey that stole your pants?
*Dances ondo*

Oh, good. I was worried I'd have to use kana and kanji for people to get that.

'course, now that there's actually an opening post, the entire paragraph is meaningless. More so than it already was, that is.

 

[BardSeed]

As for the drugs, they are bad for health of those who take them and people around them. That's a fact. You don't solve a problem by encouraging it's use.
Personally, I'm discuraged to see this percentage of young people who consider themselves intelligent taking and defending light drugs.

Back up "facts" with evidence, please. I assume you are talking about smoking when you state that drug use harms those around the user; I'm also assuming that you mean physical harm. I take your point on smoke being hazardous to the health of non-consenting people, that just happen to breathe in second-hand smoke. However, not all drugs are smoked. Even those which are have alternatives. Please tell me how eating or vaporising drugs would cause harm to those surrounding me.
If you decide to counter with the effects of a drug on an individual causing them to become aggressive and thus cause harm to others, I will agree that this would be a problem with some drugs. This could easily be guarded against, if drugs were legalised, by prohibiting their use on the street and allocating specified zones, other than the home. The money earned from legislation and taxation would more than likely pay for these areas, with plenty left over.