Well, fair enough. If they dropped the pretense in 2001 I guess they might as well stand by their future fantasy. It's still weakly justified nonsense though. Modern computers work just fine after 7 years, but in future there's an expiry date after which they get Alzheimer's disease? I'll give you the whole camera shaking in the thrusters though, not because there's actually a camera there, but because so many games use lens flares these days, there might as well be.Korten12 said:
It's not like that at all. The AI doesn't forget, it begins to know too much. It has to sacrifice processes in order to make more room and a ton of junk and fragmented data eventually causes it to act in increasingly erratic ways.Farther than stars said:
First of all I'll decide for myself what I find intriguing or not. And secondly I still think it's complete gibberish, even with the explanation provided. I could make a joke now about how a "smart" A.I. that destroys itself isn't actually so smart, but instead I'll say that it's a severe design flaw not to provide such a system with a limiter, seeing as even an A.I. which has reached it's maximum memory capacity is worth more than an A.I. that destroys itself.ZeroMachine said:
... So you decide to be rude about it and assume that I'm trying to tell you what to enjoy or find intriguing.Farther than stars said:
First off, wow, rude. Second, here's the thing pal, there's no such thing as a perfect design. Humans have been working on some things for centuries (knives, swords, shovels, systems of government) for centuries and we still can't get them right. Second, in Halo, Smart A.I.s are flashed cloned from Human brain cells, its what allows them to be creative and to analyze so many things at once, they're Human creativity combined with the raw power of supercomputers. There are A.I.s in the Halo universe that are simply machines, but they can only focus on one job, it can be a completely massive job, such as running a city, but it can only do one job. They're called, Dumb A.I.s. But the things about Smart A.I.s is that they're TOO smart, they NEED to think. In mere seconds they can completely memorize all of shakespeare completed works, but staying still for just as long is complete AGONY for them. They need to do something with their time, they can't just stand around twiddling their thumbs like we can. They up side to this raw power is that even Covenant firewalls can't even stand up to Smart A.I.s. The downside is that they full up their memory banks at an alarming rate, to the point where it becomes to much to handle. They point of this is to give Smart A.I.s a Human side to them, because as powerful as they are, they have limited lifespans, just like Humans. In time they will grow old and die just like Humans, even faster than Humans, almost like its a tradeoff for their enhanced capabilities. If Smart A.I.s lived forever...well...they would be a little boring. Also, removing memories from their database so that they don't overload probably isn't as simple as it sounds, since Smart A.I.s are partially based off of Humans, I imagine that the experience would be very traumatic and would probably end with similar results to rampancy. To pull a quote from Star Trek when they're wondering why the Borg just don't disconnect Picard from the their collective "It'd be like asking one of us to cut off our legs."Farther than stars said:
I didn't read that book and I didn't have any major problems with Mass Effect 3...apart from the stupid Star Child but I get the feeling that's not what you're talking about. For the record I didn't read any Gears of War novels either and I didn't have any gripes with Gears of War 3 either.rapidoud said:
I have a feeling that the level we were shown is not going to be the first level in the game so hopefully we'll get a better explanation beyond "they just showed up". Also the Covenant may just be a secondary enemy with the non organic species being the primary enemy, kinda like how in Metroid Prime 2 the space pirates were only the secondary enemies.Soviet Heavy said:
Actually if anything the breakdown of the alliance makes sense. The alliance between the humans and Sanghelli was an alliance forged out of necessity. After Truth and the Flood were gone a breakdown of the alliance seemed inevitable. The Humans at best don't trust the Covenant and at worst still hate them. Don't forget there was that thing with the Covenant glassing and killing billions of humans. That kind of stuff isn't forgiven nor forgotten so easily. Then there's the Covenant which is divided into multiple factions, many of whom still cling to their old religion and look down on humanity. The alliance between the Humans and Sanghelli was kinda like the alliance between the US and USSR during WWII, because they shared a common enemy, Nazi Germany. However, once Nazi Germany was defeated it didn't take long for both sides to start undermining each other.Soviet Heavy said:
The whole grappling with the Elite's face could be interesting as long as its not restricted to scripted events and actually part of the game play. It would be nice to see them make some changes to the melee system.Soviet Heavy said:
He may be referring to Kahlee Sanders, the woman from Grissom academy, and Kai Lang. Both of them were in the novels, or at least one novel. I don't think "confused" is the right word to use, but players who didn't read the novels would just see them as random people, while those who read the novels actually know who they are.erttheking said:
First of all, I assumed nothing. I wasn't talking about the game itself. I was talking about the trailer and gameplay preview.Korten12 said:
Yeah I figured she was talking to the Forerunners or something. In my opinion, they're making too much drama put of the rampancy to begin with, it amounted to nothing in Halo 3, she's never shown disloyalty or antagonism to the Chief. The fact that he's still alive should indicate that.Zen Toombs said:
Perhaps, but there was a lot of indication that the third game was meant to end it all in terms of the Chief's story, I mean all but the 3 main cast are dead and the Covenant War is/was over. It may not be on-par with CoD, but it's getting there.Andy of Comix Inc said:
Perhaps, but there is that part where she mentions that Smart AIs such as herself have a lifespan of approximately 7 yrs before they deteriorate and she has been active for 8 yrs. Those of us who have read the novels know that she is referring to what is known as AI rampancy. When an AI goes rampant it becomes a danger to itself and everyone around it and it could still take many years before the AI actually "dies". Because of this Smart AI's are usually deactivated/deleted after 7yrs to prevent them from going rampant and causing havoc.Zen Toombs said:
Leave an outdated computer running with no breaks for seven years, then tell me how it turns out. This doesn't really surprise me, but that's because in the summer I work on maintaining some websites, and within a few years without maintenance server shifts can cause the code in them can get corrupted (through nobody's fault) to the point of the website being unusable.Farther than stars said:
