E3: Kotick Casts Doubts on Battlefield 3 Console Cred

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Spookimitsu

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Wow Kotick, we can smell your fear from here. Last year, he wouldn't even say "battle" and "field" in the same sentence, let alone acknowledge any other modern shooter in the FPS genre
oh and the
"Modern Warfare 3 is the result of an enormous amount of audience research and it is what our tens of millions of players are saying they'd like to see in their next action experience,"
really amounts to removing the tactical nuke, and add destructible environs. Next thing, he;ll add jeeps tanks and heli's and call it innovation
professional troll? = professional
 

Ldude893

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Coming from the guy who stated that Bungie was the only indie developer in the industry which can develop high quality games.

That man is a twit.
 

Sniper Team 4

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I don't know Kotick. Battlfield has 4 player campaign co-op (right?). That's something Call of Duty could have used in Modern Warfare 3. It's not like you need to worry though. MW3 will still make an insane amount of money, and sixty dollars of it will be from me. However, Dice will be getting sixty dollars first, since their game comes out first. They beat you on that one. Still, it just means two things:

1) I'm going to have a lot of things to play this holiday season.
2) I'm going to be broke this holiday season.
 

MortisLegio

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heres a thought:
Maybe Kotick actually hates Activision and is trying to drive it into the ground or something. I dont know but what I do know is (though I've not really been into Battlefield franchise) the more time that passes the more I want BF3 more than MW3
 

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Okay, Activision, you were coming close to getting off my black list, you were nice a for a moment, but no, why would you keep it up, let's release the Kotick! And to think i considered buying MW3.
 

Andronicus

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People have to remember: this is a Battlefield game; it's home-ground is PC, but DICE did specifically say they wanted Battlefield to compete directly with Modern Warfare [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110000-Rumor-EA-Planning-Shooter-Showdown-for-Battlefield-3]. MW3's main audience is the console market, so if they want to compete for that audience, then their main focus should be on consoles.

Hey, not that I'm saying they should; that's just retarded. Most of Modern Warfare's audience are brainwashed teens who'll buy anything with the word "Modern", followed by "Warfare" on the front cover, and defend it to the death, regardless of content. I'm just saying that that is the angle that Kotick is arguing from, and he's dead on the money.
 

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QQ more activison. Fact is, PC gaming snubbed your pathetic useless gaming series :p just because you can't top ~1m sales on PC doesn't mean bc2 couldn't top 3m sales on PC alone, and that was just a console spin off. Imagine how much BF3 is going to sell on PC, at 4x more profit a pop too on PC due to digital.

DICE are still going to be laughing all the way to the bank even if they only sell a couple thousand console copies. But they won't, they'll sell millions on all platforms because bf3 > mw3 in all ways on all platforms.
 

Mr. Omega

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Ossian said:
Mr. Omega said:
Typical PC Gamer response: "LOLOL THAT IS GREAT BECAUSE PC GAMING AND PC GAMERS ARE BETTER THAN YOU IN EVERY WAY! CONSOLE GAMING IS FOR FAGS RETARDS AND BF3 IS THE BEST GAME EVER BECAUSE IT FOCUSES ON THE TRUE, BETTER GAMERS... PC CONSOLE GAMERS!" (Basic translation, but instead is written in a more snarky, arrogant, sarcastic manner, with 50% more of a poster's-head-up-his-ass attitude)
Fixed that for you, jeez you had a lot of typos. What tipped me off is generally PC gamers don't type in all caps and say "FAGS"
I corrected your corrections. And how could I forget that PC Gamers say "retards" instead of "fags"? I must be slipping in my old age...

Anyway, to add more to the thread discussion: Kotick is knocking the competition, in way that doesn't really work, making himself seem like an ass. Is there anything new here? Anyway, hyped up for BF3. And with CoD: Elite, that pretty much confirms that BF3 is only multiplayer-focused modern shooter I'm getting this year...
 

The Wykydtron

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Phwwwf~!


Oh wait you're serious...

Ah Kotick you amuse yet irritate the hell out of me
 

Jonluw

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MiracleOfSound said:
Battlefield, or any other game for that matter, will never take down COD until it runs at 60FPS on consoles.

Devs need to stop mimicking COD's aesthetics and features and start mimicking it's responsiveness and tight control mechanics.

I'm guessing Respawn will be the team to do it, maybe on Id's sexy new Rage engine?
Gotta agree with this statement.
When I ask myself why I have spent so much time playing the Modern warfares I often have a hard time coming up with a good reason. I don't care much about the leveling and the perks, the community is pretty horrid and the game has several features that are simply hopeless (Marathon, Lightweight, Commando comes to mind).
However, the game just feels right. It's crisp and responsive in a way that I hardly consciously notice.
That's a mark of perfection I guess. It's understated. I didn't even think about it until I tried playing Crysis and found myself longing for a more manouverable and agile tool between my hands.

I didn't know it ran at 60 fps though. Guess that explains why Forza feels so good too.
 

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I'm pretty sure it's just because the game looks prettier on the PC. They're trying to put their best foot forward and top of the line PC graphics are breath taking. It really could be that simple.
 

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Remember when Activision "thanked" EA for drumming up sales of COD by talking about it all the time?

... and now Activision is talking about Battlefield?

EA should totally thank them. :D
 

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'OMFG the word 'Kotick' is in the name! I must make sarcastic comments and pledge to buy whatever game he's not involved with!'

Did anyone even read what Kotick just said? His doubt comes from the lack of console footage. Given that EA higher ups have been shouting from the rooftops that they're going to take down COD (at least twice now, and failed) they might want to provide footage for the main audience COD targets, i.e. console gamers. The Battlefield footage could be broadcasted on the most powerful PC in the world but how would that translate to the current gen console hardware (i.e. the position COD draws in the most profits)? We don't know and thats why he's questioning it.

If he wanted to piss on everyone's bonfire he'd have just said that regardless of any effort from DICE/EA, COD would beat BF3. Here, it sounds more he made like a sensible judgement; that BF3 is currently targeting (whether you like it or not) a small portion of the overall audience, and hasn't demonstrated how it performs for the larger audience (360 and PS3). When the xbox and PS3 footage comes out, then he'll shout his claims and then you can express you disdain for the man.

I currently have both BF3 and MW3 pre-ordered for PC, of all frigging platforms. You can start calling me a biased numbskull now.

ImprovizoR said:
This is pathetic even for Kodick
He doesn't realize what he said. If a game is better than CoD on PC it will be better than CoD on consoles as well. Better graphics, bigger maps, more realistic, 32 players.
Better graphics: No. Transfer a DX11 game back to DX9 (xbox hardware) and then whatever version of OpenGL the PS3 is running, and making sure their hardware can run it. It will not look exactly the same simply because the PC is the lead platform. What does make the graphics better is optimisation, and how the team handles it.

Bigger Maps: Thats on a concept level; Theres not reason why a console (esp. today) can't run BF2142 sized maps (and they are fucking huge). It depends on the hardware and how well optimised the map is.

More realistic: Concept. Theres no reason why a piece of hardware makes the game 'more realistic' aside from varying graphical fidelity. It is dependant on the style and feel of the game.

32: Concept. Also, more does not mean better; 32 sure works on BF because its huge, but try even 18 players on maps that aren't designed for this, like Rust, any Arena map in TF2, even Nuketown becomes a mess. Also depends on the services that Xbox Live and PSN provide.

I don't know why anyone would chose CoD over BF3 even on a console. But I'm sure Kodick will try to sabotage BF3 somehow.
Because people have varying tastes? Because one is focused on tactics and strategy, the other is simple and fueled by adrenaline? Neither game is terrible and they both fit popular tastes so what exactly is the problem? Do you consider yourself more intelligent because you play a certain game? Consider other people retards because they play a certain game?

I've yet to see reports of Kotick sabotaging anything related to any battlefield game. Whilst this is an open opportunity, I've yet to imagine a feasible plan he could go with to demolish the success of BF3.

Get one, get the other, get both, or STFU.
 

jpoon

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What a dipshit, but it's not like I ever pay attention anything this corporate goon says. We'll see soon...
 

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The thing that Kotick says that really pisses me off is calling the PC gaming crowd a "small market", when if you look at the facts over the past three years the console market is slowly dwindling and the PC crowd is actually growing in size. If Activision actually marketed a multiplatform game where the PC version wasn`t a cheaply ported version with a bucket-load of bugs, poor multiplayer support, etc. he`d be making even more millions than I think he realizes.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
"So far I've only seen Battlefield 3 on a PC, I haven't seen it on a console where the bulk of our business is," he told CNBC [http://www.cnbc.com]. "If it's just a PC title, as it looks like today, that's just a small audience to participate."
Say wut? Most of/all the stuff shown to us up to now has been done with the 360. Try again.

Andy Chalk said:
As a respectful and respectable CEO
Well, I don't normally do this, but I'll go ahead: "I lol'd"
 

Dragunai

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I played the first modern warfare, 2nd and Black ops. Its safe to assume I have now played every single COD game ever made and will ever be made as NOTHING changes between them game play wise. Same guns renamed and skinned, same perks slightly molested same Russian Bad guys.
 

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Haha. He just sold every single one of his game's PC sales, for a few extra console sales from the dupes who actually believe his arbitrary critiques. How did this guy become CEO of a multi-billion dollar corp again?