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Bags159

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Biodeamon said:
well, EA is good for making fun enganging long games and capcom are good at making trippy awesome games that are a bit short.

examples:
EA:Deadspace, Spore, Crysis 2, Brutual Legend
Capcom:Deadrising, Resident Evil, Lost Planet
"Crysis 2 is a first-person shooter video game developed by Crytek, published by Electronic Arts and released in North America, Australia, and Europe in March 2011."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis_2
 

Leoofmoon

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Bags159 said:
Biodeamon said:
well, EA is good for making fun enganging long games and capcom are good at making trippy awesome games that are a bit short.

examples:
EA:Deadspace, Spore, Crysis 2, Brutual Legend
Capcom:Deadrising, Resident Evil, Lost Planet
"Crysis 2 is a first-person shooter video game developed by Crytek, published by Electronic Arts and released in North America, Australia, and Europe in March 2011."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis_2
I loved crysis 2 :D
 

Sean Renaud

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Fishyash said:
Interesting that most, if not all, of what you said were all mentioned in TotalBiscuit's mailbox.

But you are right, I am definately not a big fan of any of that stuff but unfortunately this has been the case anyways. Companies keep finding ways to nickel and dime their consumers, and people are ok with it so it becomes the norm, which really sucks.

And games not being localised is also really silly as well. I'm pretty sure that those games get much more sales in the US (and sometimes europe) than japan anyways. It's a great way of showing good will to your consumers. Why games don't get localised when requested by a large public is beyond me.
They are nickel and diming us but lets be honest, we as a group have shown little hesitance to outright steal from them. Hell we supported an industry built around robbing them. The used game market, especially when said same market encourages us to play the games as quickly as possible because their trade in value plumets (not that they give us much in the way of money to begin with. We know the PC had everybody copying games and handing them out to their friends or loading them onto as all of our friends PC's etc etc. Beside the majority of the DLM is optional, it's not like they leave out the necessary bits. You can make an argument that perhaps with Street Fighter and MvC that they could have waited a year for each game and released a "completed" version. I bet you that if Capcom told people that if they paid 60 dollars they could get the a game that's 85% complete a year early that they'd do okay.

Localization is a lot more than just translating from Japanesse into English, it's also changing all the cultural references, it often means adjusting for cultural differences. The rules about nudity and drinking. The middle finger in Japan is rude but it's not the curse word to end them all which is why if you watch anime you can find a lot stuff with middle fingers thrown around, a good amount of nudity, lots of drinking all that has to go. Even localization between US and the UK has to check for slang since there are plenty of terms that mean different things between the two. It takes time and money so it makes perfect sense that they don't localize stuff they don't think will sell.

Leoofmoon said:
Yes but EA is turning into a money grubing company wile capcom is goign retarted and blameing fans for there own mistakes
EA being a money grubbing company is also the reason they get to put out stuff like the Sims and Spore. They worst case scenario for them pumping millions into a game that flops is they slap a metal box on next years Madden and ask all the fans to pitch in an extra ten bucks into the coffers. There is a reason why we get sequels and sequels and sequels. It's because it's safe. Which while I'm on the subject is why if you liked or think you might like games like LA Noire go buy it, and buy it new. Send the message to Rockstar that yes we do want this because if you don't they won't give us a sequel. They'll just give us GTA5.

As for Capcom they not blaming us for their mistakes. Their punishing us for ours. There are five games in the Ace Attorney series out. None of them have sold particularly well. That's why they aren'g going to bother giving us the 6th one because it won't sell well and since it has little replay value a lot of its "sales" we actually be as used games lowering it again. We can't keep asking them to work for free, they simply won't do it.
 

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Allspice said:
Hoboape said:
Allspice said:
Like it or not, Monster Hunter Tri is a proper game on a proper console.
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Leoofmoon said:
Hoboape said:
Allspice said:
Like it or not, Monster Hunter Tri is a proper game on a proper console.
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Regardless, the Wii is a legit console and Monster Hunter Tri is a legit, original title in the series.
I agree, I enjoyed Monster Hunter Tri and I enjoyed the online multiplayer.

But yeah Capcom pulled a real dick move canceling Mega Man Legends 3, I was really looking forward to that game!
 

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New Frontiersman said:
I agree, I enjoyed Monster Hunter Tri and I enjoyed the online multiplayer.

But yeah Capcom pulled a real dick move canceling Mega Man Legends 3, I was really looking forward to that game!
I'm not a huge Mega Man fan, but I agree with that.
 

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Sean Renaud said:
Fishyash said:
Interesting that most, if not all, of what you said were all mentioned in TotalBiscuit's mailbox.

But you are right, I am definately not a big fan of any of that stuff but unfortunately this has been the case anyways. Companies keep finding ways to nickel and dime their consumers, and people are ok with it so it becomes the norm, which really sucks.

And games not being localised is also really silly as well. I'm pretty sure that those games get much more sales in the US (and sometimes europe) than japan anyways. It's a great way of showing good will to your consumers. Why games don't get localised when requested by a large public is beyond me.
They are nickel and diming us but lets be honest, we as a group have shown little hesitance to outright steal from them. Hell we supported an industry built around robbing them. The used game market, especially when said same market encourages us to play the games as quickly as possible because their trade in value plumets (not that they give us much in the way of money to begin with. We know the PC had everybody copying games and handing them out to their friends or loading them onto as all of our friends PC's etc etc. Beside the majority of the DLM is optional, it's not like they leave out the necessary bits. You can make an argument that perhaps with Street Fighter and MvC that they could have waited a year for each game and released a "completed" version. I bet you that if Capcom told people that if they paid 60 dollars they could get the a game that's 85% complete a year early that they'd do okay.

Localization is a lot more than just translating from Japanesse into English, it's also changing all the cultural references, it often means adjusting for cultural differences. The rules about nudity and drinking. The middle finger in Japan is rude but it's not the curse word to end them all which is why if you watch anime you can find a lot stuff with middle fingers thrown around, a good amount of nudity, lots of drinking all that has to go. Even localization between US and the UK has to check for slang since there are plenty of terms that mean different things between the two. It takes time and money so it makes perfect sense that they don't localize stuff they don't think will sell.

Leoofmoon said:
Yes but EA is turning into a money grubing company wile capcom is goign retarted and blameing fans for there own mistakes
EA being a money grubbing company is also the reason they get to put out stuff like the Sims and Spore. They worst case scenario for them pumping millions into a game that flops is they slap a metal box on next years Madden and ask all the fans to pitch in an extra ten bucks into the coffers. There is a reason why we get sequels and sequels and sequels. It's because it's safe. Which while I'm on the subject is why if you liked or think you might like games like LA Noire go buy it, and buy it new. Send the message to Rockstar that yes we do want this because if you don't they won't give us a sequel. They'll just give us GTA5.

As for Capcom they not blaming us for their mistakes. Their punishing us for ours. There are five games in the Ace Attorney series out. None of them have sold particularly well. That's why they aren'g going to bother giving us the 6th one because it won't sell well and since it has little replay value a lot of its "sales" we actually be as used games lowering it again. We can't keep asking them to work for free, they simply won't do it.
.....who are you complaineing to?
 

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manythings said:
yuval152 said:
EA's Idea will fail because everything is overpriced and shitty customer service
Since when? Every time I've had a problem they fixed it in less than 10 minutes. The one time it took longer was an issue just an error in information and, once identified, was fixed.
customer service not customer support
 

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Leoofmoon said:
I also mean console to where the developers developers think its a real hardcore system and think of there fans, and your target crowed isn't kids and house wives.
Here's some crunchy, crunchy facts, pardner. It wasn't released on the PS3 because of significantly higher development costs for the system. If it was released on PS3 they'd either have to:

A) Sell the same number of units as previous titles but at double the price.
B) Release the game Japan-only (They wanted international release on this title).
C) Make serious cuts in the game.

I don't think anyone would be particularly happy about any of those things.

Also, it's a rather well received critically & with consumers. Also, please tell me what makes the Wii less of a "real system". There's some fantastic titles on the Wii. I'd really much rather you don't ask me to dig up the ol' list again.
 

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I've had reasons to not buy from EA and Capcom long before these, they're only cementing my resolve. I've avoided Capcom completely, I believe, and the only reason EA's getting any of my money is because of Mass Effect. I wish to god they'd have not assimilated into them, but what do you do?

I just wish more people would vote with their wallets instead of just getting angry and outraged. The main reason people don't boycott things, even if they want to, is becuase they believe they're one of the few and it won't have any effect. If everyone forgoes that and does it anyway, EA and Capcom and whoever else notices a big decline in their sales and goes to look at what they've done to make us angry.
 

Leoofmoon

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Chibz said:
Leoofmoon said:
I also mean console to where the developers developers think its a real hardcore system and think of there fans, and your target crowed isn't kids and house wives.
Here's some crunchy, crunchy facts, pardner. It wasn't released on the PS3 because of significantly higher development costs for the system. If it was released on PS3 they'd either have to:

A) Sell the same number of units as previous titles but at double the price.
B) Release the game Japan-only (They wanted international release on this title).
C) Make serious cuts in the game.

I don't think anyone would be particularly happy about any of those things.

Also, it's a rather well received critically & with consumers. Also, please tell me what makes the Wii less of a "real system". There's some fantastic titles on the Wii. I'd really much rather you don't ask me to dig up the ol' list again.
That is what they targeted with the wii! and not to mechon they abondoned the wii for the new console with will "revolusnaise gameing" witch they sed about the wii! and once they where done they just droped it like a bad prom date! last time they sed that THE CONSOLE SOLE MORE THEN THE GAMES!