EA Origin Keeps your games after one year, possibly

[Akihiko]

The text seems to be strongly edited (it's pictures of text that has been cut out on certain edges, instead of, just say, copy/paste the text from the source). I'll wait for a more official statement regarding Origin's EULA.

Wouldn't surprise me, though. I mean, it -is- EA.


Don't jump to conclusions. That "article" is pretty dodgy, not having an actual link to the EULA, and the whole "picture of text" thing, instead of copy/pasting is also kind of curious.

I had a look in the EULA and I couldn't find it. http://eacom.s3.amazonaws.com/EULA_Origin+_June+launch_.5.17.11.pdf I searched for the word "year" and it didn't come up with anything, and then I briefly scanned through the document.

I also had a scan through their terms of Service as well. http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/ which only states about them being able to deactivate your account if you don't use it for 2 years(However EA did reply stating that is only there for legal reasons and they have no plan on doing it).

As mentioned in the other thread, this is in the FAQ -

"Q: Will my game download ever expire?
A: Digital download rights remain available for at least one year after purchase. Origin typically doesn?t retire games, and we?ve only retired around 10 of the 150 games we sell, and these have generally been because of the expiration of licensing rights. If you come across an issue, simply contact Origin Help and we'll reconfigure things for you."

Which pretty much again, suggests it's legal issues.


I don't and won't be buying things from Origin(Not unless they get cheaper). However, I'll wait to see if any of this actually happens to people before I jump to any conclusions regarding the service. Steam also has some mentions in their T&C/EULA regarding removing games from your account as well after all. Hell I'll find out myself whether it'll happen. Had to activate free copys of Crysis 2 and Mass Effect 2 via Origin. So if they disappear, then I'll know.

 

[yuval152]

OT:EA will get tons of shit for this stupid move and it was a very dumb not to sell on steam because they are trying to beat MW3(steam is far more better and popular than origin).

Fuck you, EA. I wouldn't buy any of your games if you weren't Bioware's publisher. By the way, Bioware, you really, really need to ditch EA. They don't exactly have their customers' best interests in mind.

Bioware should choose valve instead because EA is gonna jizz all over bioware when EA will start to lose money.


And I figured out that EA is shutting down the master servers for games that are starting to get old,EA you just lost another consumer.

 

[barash]

Hahahaha, EA is really trying to compete with Activision and Ubisoft for the seemingly coveted 'most pissed off customers of the decade' award.

The sooner people stop buying their shitware and they go under, the better.

 

[AlternatePFG]

I seriously doubt they will actually remove your games after owning it for a year but regardless I'm still not getting any games off Origin, cause frankly I don't need to use another digital distribution service. Nothing EA has in the upcoming year interests me, and if I have to end up using it, I'll wait for it be out for awhile so that can improve it.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well if you ever played on EA servers you would know they turn everything off after a year, that to them seems normal, not to mention their install limits, project 10$, and anyone they don't like on their forums gets his game account banned... oh how we love you EA.

I do hope developers manage to migrate somewhere safe before EA goes pulls the trigger on the shotgun they are aiming at their face.

 

[Rigs83]

Spoiler: Snip

If this is true, I'm not buying Battlefield 3, Mass Effect 3 or whatever worthwhile games that will be required to run this. Wonder what you would have to do if you buy them retail though.

I'm sure that the retail versions will forcibly install Origin on your computer, so that when BF3 and ME3 and all the other big-name EA games come out and sell a lot of hard copies, they can say Origin is a huge success. Also, they'll probably start enforcing DRM not unlike the type in Darkspore (Which requires a constant internet connection at all times to play the single-player), and because Origin will have tons of EA Exclusive titles they will be able to keep them at whatever prices they want.

But that's just my opinion. After all, doesn't the retail copy of Alice: Madness Returns come with Origin?

If that is true then I will sadly not be getting The Old Republic
Edit:
Just went to the TOR website heard the opening score to Star Wars and now I will let EA have their way with me...just to EPIC

 

[Smooth Operator]

Another reason EA origins will fail to the point of no return against steam. Also, why does it matter if the game is bought on origins or steam? they get just as much money selling them for the same price, so does it really matter?

Well a few reasons:
- from what I know Valve pockets 30% of all sales, not a small amount of money
- EA can't freely advertise their games
- EA can't take the old games off Steam to pressure people into new games
- EA can't limit howmany times you install your game
- EA can't control the second hand market
- EA can't ban you from Steam if you say nasty things on their forums

And many more Dick Dastardly things EA is thinking of right now.

 

[NLS]

If this is true, R.I.P. EA Origin. You died before you lived. Thoughts?

Source: http://gotgame.com/2011/06/15/ea-origins-keeps-your-games-after-one-year/

It's the same agreement they've used for the EA Store and EA Download Manager in the past, and it's not something they actually enforce. They're basically just covering their asses in case something comes up that forces them to take down some older games from their service.

We need more people like you.
Just because something says in an EULA, doesn't mean they'll actually start doing bashit insane things like this example.

 

[Tharwen]

Hey, I just noticed this on the front page:

Anytime, eh?

 

[Stall]

Reading some of Origin's EULA. Some of this stuff is stupid.

"Electronic Arts hereby grants, and you accept, a limited, terminable, non-exclusive license and right to use the Software for your personal use in accordance with this Agreement and the Subscription Terms. The Software is licensed, not sold. Your license confers no title or ownership in the Software."

"ELECTRONIC ARTS DOES NOT GUARANTEE CONTINUOUS, ERROR-FREE, VIRUS-FREE OR SECURE OPERATION AND ACCESS TO ORIGIN, THE SOFTWARE, YOUR ACCOUNT AND/OR YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS(S).

Man, what total BS. This is going to amazingly fail.

If you got mad at this, or the OP, then you probably should read more EULAs, because these quotes in my post aren't from Origin's EULA... they're from Steam's EULA agreement... I just changed a few words

 

[Chibz]

EA "Keeps your games" after a year? Oh, you mean the games you wouldn't have owned anyways?

I fail to see how this is better or worse.

 

[Aroth Khashar]

Wtf people! Until someone provides a link to the page and/or file that makes this statement so I can read it in it's entirety, I will consider this to be a bad publicity stunt or smear campaign against EA. So far all I can find is the same two pictures posted over and over again. Pictures which would easily have been created by someone else.

 

[Zeetchmen]

Oh PC gaming, you so silly ^o^

 

[andy.welbournW]

EA Origins will fall if they actually start removing user licenses after a year. Although to be honest I would be happy to see EA fall completely.

 

[JediMB]

Wtf people! Until someone provides a link to the page and/or file that makes this statement so I can read it in it's entirety, I will consider this to be a bad publicity stunt or smear campaign against EA. So far all I can find is the same two pictures posted over and over again. Pictures which would easily have been created by someone else.

It's part of the license agreement Origin inherited from the EA Store and the EA Download Manager. It's just a safety precaution in case they are legally obligated to stop distributing a certain piece of software.

For example, if you had purchased a James Bond game from them in 2005, they would not have been able to supply you with it anymore when Activision took over the license in 2006.

 

[MorsePacific]

I feel like they were just banking on the fact that most people don't read the Terms of Service Agreement.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure most of us can agree that Origin was destined to fail. Steam is damn near invincible at this point, especially with the huge headstart it had.

 

[BloodSquirrel]

I hate to break this to you guys, but this EULA is a better deal than you're currently getting. This actually gaurantees that you'll be able to access your game for at least one year, as opposed to "for as long as we feel like".

Bottom line: Unless you can install the game on a fresh machine without connecting to someboy's servers, all you have is an extended rental.

 

[Dr. Pepper Unlimited]

I don't have enough room for more nails on the coffin that is EA's Origin. I guess this thread will just be a cinder block to keep it buried in the ground. How does EA even survive? It's run by the biggest group of idiots on the market, all paid for by their ridiculous Madden series and powered by pure hatred.

If Origin is force-installed with Battlefield 3/Mass Effect 3, then I just saved myself over a hundred dollars. Thanks EA. I'll use that for my Steam account instead. Bye now!