EA Origin Keeps your games after one year, possibly

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VanTesla

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Wow, makes you wonder if Origin will even last a year. What do they have over Steam again?
Let's hope it fails so bad, they'll fire the right people and stop treating the consumers as enemies...
 

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If EA is going to be a giant douche on digital sales im going to be a douche and buy there games for the 360, used, and instead of selling it back to gamestop I will sell it to my friend, used, and tell him to sell the game, used. essentially screwing EA over at least 3 times.
 

Arawn.Chernobog

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Well, it's pretty much official

I am not buying a single EA title that requires Origin or supports it in some way, shape or form.


EA has been trying especially hard, lately, to grab the "Douchebaggiest Company in the History of the Game Industry" lately.

If you don't mind I'll stick to Steam and the occasional boxed copy of a game.
 

SovietSecrets

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Simple, don't buy digital through Origin.

I bought Crysis 2 off the main site a couple of days ago and they gave me the option for a physical copy. I was insanely pleased about that. Unless of course this applies for physical as well.
 

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Seems EA is jealous off Activision's new rep as the big bad of the gaming industry, and are now finding new ways to scare customers away.
 

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Im someone who has a massive backlog of games that ive yet to play. So its a regular occurance that a game will be sitting on my shelf or steam account much longer than a year before I get around to playing it.

I doubt EA will enfore the rule but it still makes me wary of buying Origin games
 

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I think EA needs to realize one thing: When you're trying to compete with steam, you aren't trying to sell things to the general populace of not particularly savvy consumers. You're trying to lure gamers who know their business, and so I think they'll find that stuff like this does much more to keep customers away than they may realize.
 

Electric Alpaca

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Taken completely out of context.

It means it may be placed onto your hard drive for one year after purchase.

I.e. if you buy it and don't download after 365 days you lose the right to it. Which I view as a perfectly acceptable way to maintain server space (removing download 'tokens' from concern).

People are too quick to jump.
 

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Wow, just when I thought they could get any more fucking moronic...they up and surprise you! Well EA, you just got yourself a guaranteed NO SALE from me on Origin, for a shitload longer than one year.

What happens if after 1 year you get yourself a badass new PC and want to re-install said game? Are you then screwed into buying it again? I think not!
 

Jaime_Wolf

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Oh this is going to be so ugly.

Origin is already an absolute nightmare and this only makes it worse. But the worst part is that everyone's making fun of this move and all of the others without realising that EA can probably get away with all of it. No matter what they do with their distribution, they own half of the AAA developers at this point and people want to play those games. How many people do you honestly think are going to decide not to buy Battlefield 3 because of this? What about TOR? Right.

This is going to lead to a lot of internet complaining, but I would not be at all surprised if they get away with it.

Edit: Nevermind. I'm pretty sure this is just a guarantee that they won't stop supporting games or offering downloads for at least a year after purchases, which is pretty routine (basically promising they won't sell you a game and then stop supporting it or offering it for download three weeks later).
 

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Electric Alpaca said:
Taken completely out of context.

It means it may be placed onto your hard drive for one year after purchase.

I.e. if you buy it and don't download after 365 days you lose the right to it. Which I view as a perfectly acceptable way to maintain server space (removing download 'tokens' from concern).

People are too quick to jump.
...how do you know this? It doesn't say what it means. It could easily mean any of the things that people have mentioned.

Frankly, the most likely meaning is actually the nicest: they're guaranteeing that they'll continue to provide the game for download for at least a year after the last purchase. Imagine that they go through their catalogue and cull a bunch of games that no one's buying, it's very likely that they're just saying that they won't cull any games until it's been at least a year since they last offered them for purchase. It's just a commitment not to sell you a game and then stop supporting it one week later.

I highly doubt they'll remove the ability to download the game after 365 days, it's very questionable how much data that'd save them (and it wouldn't save them any server space as they'd have to store the files anyway). And you can see how unhappy everyone would be just from this thread.
 

Electric Alpaca

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Jaime_Wolf said:
...how do you know this? It doesn't say what it means. It could easily mean any of the things that people have mentioned.

Frankly, the most likely meaning is actually the nicest: they're guaranteeing that they'll continue to provide the game for download for at least a year after the last purchase. Imagine that they go through their catalogue and cull a bunch of games that no one's buying, it's very likely that they're just saying that they won't cull any games until it's been at least a year since they last offered them for purchase. It's just a commitment not to sell you a game and then stop supporting it one week later.

I highly doubt they'll remove the ability to download the game after 365 days, it's very questionable how much data that'd save them (and it wouldn't save them any server space as they'd have to store the files anyway). And you can see how unhappy everyone would be just from this thread.
Common sense, and a lack of untapped hatred aimed at any and all corporations. Additionally experience with digital wares, especially EA's modus operandi.

Any offered product via download takes server space - there has to be a certain allocation to guarantee that a reasonable amount of people will be able to get the product they have been sold. Any resource that can be saved is a resource that can be used elsewhere. Much like how EA already obsolete previous season sport titles.

The people professing their "unhappiness" don't really matter anyway - inability to think for oneself and gobble up the headlines that agree with one's already established baseless distaste will have one's ire provoked by anything anyway.
 

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Electric Alpaca said:
Jaime_Wolf said:
...how do you know this? It doesn't say what it means. It could easily mean any of the things that people have mentioned.

Frankly, the most likely meaning is actually the nicest: they're guaranteeing that they'll continue to provide the game for download for at least a year after the last purchase. Imagine that they go through their catalogue and cull a bunch of games that no one's buying, it's very likely that they're just saying that they won't cull any games until it's been at least a year since they last offered them for purchase. It's just a commitment not to sell you a game and then stop supporting it one week later.

I highly doubt they'll remove the ability to download the game after 365 days, it's very questionable how much data that'd save them (and it wouldn't save them any server space as they'd have to store the files anyway). And you can see how unhappy everyone would be just from this thread.
Common sense, and a lack of untapped hatred aimed at any and all corporations. Additionally experience with digital wares, especially EA's modus operandi.

Any offered product via download takes server space - there has to be a certain allocation to guarantee that a reasonable amount of people will be able to get the product they have been sold. Any resource that can be saved is a resource that can be used elsewhere. Much like how EA already obsolete previous season sport titles.

The people professing their "unhappiness" don't really matter anyway - inability to think for oneself and gobble up the headlines that agree with one's already established baseless distaste will have one's ire provoked by anything anyway.
My point was more that your idea of what they'd do seems relatively pessimistic (something like that "untapped" hatred you mentioned).

I find it very, very unlikely that they'll be refusing to allow downloads after a year - especially since, for the overwhelming majority of their games, they're going to be offering them for download for several years anyway. It would be a ridiculous scandal and EA already has enough scandal to keep it busy for a while (none of it even approaching the size this would cause). I would be very surprised if this isn't just a one-year guarantee of service: they're saying that they promise that the things will be available for at least a year after you purchase them, so customers can be sure that titles they've purchased won't just become unavailable to redownload after six months. This is an even bigger issue in the era of things like always-online DRM and multiplayers games lacking dedicated servers. Offering consumers one year of guaranteed service is pretty normal in situations like that.

And they only really save server space if they actually stop offering a game - making people repurchase it doesn't prevent them needing to store the game on the distribution servers (if your point was actually that they would save server space by not needing to store the tokens, I don't even know what to tell you, they're not even trivial to store, they're practically nonexistent). I'd be very surprised if this weren't a clause protecting customers from just that situation, especially in the case of games with iterations like you mentioned where ceasing to offer the old iteration makes some sense. And server space for storing the games for download isn't really even an issue at all - the real cost is distribution, storage is comparatively trivial. Now saving bandwidth by assuming that a repurchasing scheme will lead to a number of people not repurchasing and therefore not redownloading might make sense, but EA would be betting rather a lot of its reputation on a number of redownloads that is pretty unlikely to make a huge dent in their bandwidth costs.

On a more concrete note, it would be very odd for them to use such language if their intention was to force people to repurchase games each year. It's not at all clear why they would put at least in the agreement in such a case. Further, even EA isn't foolish enough to try to sneak this into an agreement - they would make an announcement if this were a new policy. The backlash from a hidden part of the agreement allowing them to force repurchase would be much worse than the backlash from announcing such a plan. Not to mention the legal action that would probably result.
 

Jari Peltonen

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pretty funny to see that people are raging over this. Origin promises ATLEAST a year before they can pull games out which has been in the EA store for a long time and i haven't had any problems with it. but i don't see people raging or boycotting steam for having same excuse that has no estimated time, which allows steam to take games out after an minute after you bought them so which one is better in the end? i have to say origin as a platform (which is still in beta)
 

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Aris Khandr said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
If you really want to get all "omg EA u suck so much", just think about that for a second. Origin actually promises you one year of access. Steam doesnt. Steam could let you purchase the game and then shut you out 2 seconds later.
This bears repeating. Steam's EULA specifically states that your license to download the games is "limited", and can be terminated at any time. EA at least promises you a year. Steam could drop your game after two weeks if they wanted. But no one seriously believes either company will exercise that option, right?
This needs to be repeated until the Steam fanboys stop raging. Steam is a terrible product. Origin is actually a little bit better.
 

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Zakarath said:
I think EA needs to realize one thing: When you're trying to compete with steam, you aren't trying to sell things to the general populace of not particularly savvy consumers. You're trying to lure gamers who know their business, and so I think they'll find that stuff like this does much more to keep customers away than they may realize.
Really? Because it doesn't seem like the Steam fanboys in this thread were well aware that Steam does the same thing. The only difference is EA promises you at least one year. Steam could cancel your games the next day if they felt like it and you couldn't do anything, because you agreed to their license.
 

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Caiti Voltaire said:
Pingieking said:
If this is true, then EA Origin = Epic Fail.
How did they ever think something like that is going to go well?
Most people never read the legaleese in these sites etc, that's why.
Even the people who post pictures of it. That's a guarantee that after you buy it you can keep downloading it for a minimum of one year. Most likely though, much longer.
 

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Just an FYI this is old. Back when EA Download manager was still used I bought the DLC for Battlefield 2142 called Northern Strike where I could download it off their site for some many years (I could pay extra money to have that time extended I believe). But now down to 1 year and this new BS EULA or pricy issues (which I heard rumors to that they can refuse you service if they don't like what they see ... and I know they will look at everything you ever have, including downloads, and websites visited ... and people complained about the USA PATRIOT ACT)